Genital Herpes: Useful info for those looking for answers like me!

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Ever since I suspected genital herpes (GH) and was recently confirmed to be going through a primary outbreak of HSV-2 (ugh, the "bad" one), I have been researching the topic like crazy! Guess that's a pretty normal thing to do, lol, and I'm sure many others here have done the same.

Anyway, I thought it would be helpful to share everything that I have learnt thus far, and I will continue to add to this thread as I come across more useful, interesting and/or relevant info.

Genital HSV symptoms https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1776485

Testing for HSV https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1776488

Does having one HSV type protect you against the other? https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1776489

Autoinnoculation (self-contagion to other areas) https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1776492

When is genital HSV most contagious? https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1776494

Genital HSV transmission risk https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1776497

Antiviral meds for genital HSV https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1776501

Natural treatments for genital HSV https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1776503

Genital HSV and increased risk of HIV https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1776505

Transmission risk via inanimate objects, swimming and blood https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1778698

Genital herpes and menstruation https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1778703

Genital herpes and BV and yeast infections https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1778708

Is there a vaccine for HSV-1/2? https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1778714

Possible complications of genital herpes https://patient.info/forums/discuss/comment?discussionid=482438&commentid=1782789

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    Genital HSV and increased risk of HIV

    HSV-1 is not typically associated with a greater risk of acquiring HIV, unless genital lesions are present and exposed to HIV.

    HSV-2, however, IS associated with a double/triple risk of acquiring HIV. This applies to BOTH men and women, and does NOT require the presence of visible lesions.

    Lesions may be microscopic/asymptomatic, besides which those with HSV-2 have increased CD4 cells at or near the skin's surface (even when lesions have fully healed), which is what HIV targets. As a result, HSV antiviral meds resulting in reduced or no outbreaks make NO difference to this increased risk for HIV.

    While this may be very alarming to those with HSV-2, bear in mind that this increased risk only applies if you engage in risky behaviour with a person with HIV.

    A person with both HSV-2 and HIV is also at greater risk of transmitting HIV (and most likely HSV-2).

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16327322

    Q&A - http://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV---Prevention/Asymptomatic-Herpes-and-increased-HIV-Risk/show/1574884

    Summary of past studies - http://mobile.aidsmap.com/Herpes-and-HIV-acquisition/page/1746727

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      Update: The increased risk for acquiring HIV is actually 2-4 times. Those with established HSV-2 infections are at 2x risk, while newly infected individuals are at 4x risk. The study that examined this seemed to define established infections as those who had HSV-2 for at least 2+ years, but probably over 12 months can be considered established.
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    I love this!
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      Thanks! Thought I may as well share what I've learnt, since I've seen so many confused questions and answers, or simply nothing at all regarding things I want to know about!! Will add more sections tomorrow.
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      Very good articles to share here and I thank you for the HSV community as everyone needs to get good reliable information.
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    Transmission risk via inanimate objects, swimming and blood

    Both types of genital herpes virus do not survive for long outside of the body and are readily destroyed by soap and water.

    As a result, the risk of transmission via shared towels, clothing, toilet seats and the like is minimal to none (unless you immediately share a damp towel that has been exposed to the virus, then a slight possibility exists).

    Swimming/bathing in open bodies of water like the sea and in chlorinated or soapy water (e.g., swimming pools, baths) is also not a transmission route for genital herpes, although I would personally most likely avoid it during an active outbreak, but that's just me!

    HSV does not reside in the blood stream (only antibodies), so exposure to blood from cuts and wounds is not contagious. HSV carriers are also fine to donate blood, although it may be advisable to avoid this during a primary outbreak (recurrent outbreaks are okay).

    The main thing is to avoid touching lesions, or if you do, to immediately wash your hands with soap and water before touching anything else, including other parts of your body to avoid autoinnoculation (especially during a primary outbreak and until enough antibodies have been established in your body, which is typically 3-6 months).

    Inanimate objects - http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/answered-questions/herpes-transmission-sharing-soap

    Donating blood - http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/answered-questions/infected-herpes-%E2%80%94-can-i-donate-blood

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      This makes me feel much better because my 19 year old and i share a bathroom. I have explained my HSV2 condition to her. She has been trying to cheer me up.
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      Yes, luckily it's not crazy contagious, lol. Only really spread through sex. Common sense hygiene is sufficient, like not sharing a just used bath towel, underwear or swimsuit bottoms, but I doubt few do that anyway! Everything else is fine, even mixing laundry together.
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    Genital herpes and menstruation

    Menstruation MAY be a trigger for outbreaks in some women, since the hormonal changes during a woman's menstrual cycle can alter the immune system. For the same reason, peri/menopause MAY worsen genital herpes outbreaks in some women. However, there seem to be few studies available regarding this, which is both surprising and frustrating!

    While menstruation may have an effect on outbreaks, the reverse is not true. Genital herpes and outbreaks do NOT affect menstruation, so if you notice any significant changes in your menstruation, you should seek medical advice. During menstruation, it is okay to use tampons or pads - whichever you feel more comfortable with.

    http://www.healthcentral.com/genital-herpes/c/86/16378/herpes-cycle

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      Is it common to have buring during period but no out break ? Burning occurs on one side and doesn't last long at all
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    Genital herpes and BV and yeast infections

    Genital herpes, in particular HSV-2, is associated with a reduction in the number of hydrogen peroxide-producing lactobacillus in the vaginal tract (most notably l. crispatus and l. jensenii), which are known to keep BV at bay. As a result, some women find that they suffer from BV in addition to genital herpes (talk about adding insult to injury!).

    In studies, a probiotic vaginal suppository has been shown to restore a healthy and balanced vaginal flora, but there appear to be few such products available in the market, and I could find none containing the two lactobacillus mentioned above! Oral probiotics may offer some help, however, although vaginal suppositories are thought to be more effective.

    Many women also seem to get yeast infections with genital herpes. Oddly enough, I could not find any research to support this, but if genital herpes can sufficiently upset the normal vaginal flora to cause BV, it makes sense that yeast infections may also arise.

    If vaginal suppositories like Monistat are too painful to insert or irritating, oral medication like Diflucan can be taken instead. Personally, I would rather take systemic oral medication than localised treatment in an already sensitive and compromised body area! As for topical treatments to prevent external itchiness, steroidal creams/ointments should be avoided, as these are immunosupressants, so no hydrocortisone!

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17989585

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2659027/

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      good natural yogurt aplied direct to the vagina with a cotton ball soaked in it, or a bath of half yogurt half boiled water at tepid temperature is very helpful 
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    Is there a vaccine for HSV-1/2?

    Unfortunately, no.

    However, there are a handful of promising studies currently underway in both the US and Australia that are looking to develop a therapeutic vaccine for those already carrying HSV-2 (but not HSV-1, I'm afraid). The goal is to reduce outbreaks and asymptomatic shedding (not to eliminate HSV-2), with a preventative vaccine as the next step.

    While promising, these studies are still in the clinical study phase, so sadly it will be some years before they will be made available to the general public, assuming they are successful and pass all of the necessary human trials and other requirements/approvals, etc.

    http://medcitynews.com/2014/10/race-tight-genital-herpes-vaccine-agenus-genocea-announce-positive-data/

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex_research

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      FelisCatus, do u know what it means when they say GH is unilateral? Does it mean it affects one side of the body per out break, meaning it can either be left or right? Or maybe the recurrents will only occur on one particular side always, meaning if it affects left it's going to always be on left side? Have you found any ifo on that yet ?thanx:-)
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      Yes, apparently first outbreaks are typically bilateral, with lesions appearing on both sides. Recurrent outbreaks, however, tend to be unilateral, with lesions appearing on one side, up to and including the midline (to do with nerves not crossing the midline). I'm sure there are exceptions, though, as GH rarely seems to follow a rule book!

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