Osteopath or no Osteopath

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I am 50 and since the beginning of August felt pain in shoulder and upper arm with very limited movement . I went to doc and was diagnosed with Frozen Shoulder. He said that as I had Graves Disease of the Thyroid at 37 that it could have been a contributory factor .I was given a steroid injection over 2 weeks ago which made pain worse. I have been referred for Physio but can't have an appointment till 10th of December. I have paid to see an osteopath over the last few weeks but that has seemed to make pain worse . I realise that this condition is about patience and that it will get better eventually but it just gets you down . Do I continue seeing the osteopath or am I wasting money ? Which to be truthful I can't afford . I worry that as I have had no scans or X-rays could it be something else but my doctor assures me otherwise . Any advice would be helpful . I can't take ibuprofen as I am severely allergic to Aspirin .

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    Hi there I had frozen shoulder for over four years. It usually thaws after  one year and after that I went for rehab at the Salisbury Hospital Pain Clinic . Last year I was diagnosed with a full tendon tear on the rotator.  cuff which meant I had to have shoulder surgery as two steroidal injections made no difference. I am now a year on and still have the odd twinges  especially after long car journeys  which hurt it. 
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      Omg that's a long time . I don't think people realise how painful it is and how much it infringes on every day life . I can handle lack of movement but it's more the pain in my upper arm and stiffness in shoulder on movement that I find hard to cope with on a daily basis . I know I have to learn to cope as this could go on a long time x

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      I would insist you get an ultrasound done to see how many  adhesions you are dealing with . Mine was closely monitored and the range of movement recorded every few months. It is a slow process unfortunately. I also have had Fibromyalgia for ten yeas which impedes the healing process
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      I think if it continues too long I will ask for scan .it sounds like you have been through it . I think I should be patient and not expect it to all go away so quickly. I have found this site very helpful it's always good to talk to others who have been through the same x

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    Whatever makes you comfortable. Everyone is different. If the osteopath is not working, don't continue. You might want to go later when you start thawing. For one take care of the pain and be patient. I have had 2 frozen shoulders and it was time that was the biggest healer.

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    Is that line a chiropractor? I found excercises helped me be less stiff but at a certain point it didn't matter cause I was too frozen. Ask about mua? (You can search here for threads all about it) as far as X-rays and MRI in my case ruled out a tear but they didn't really use to diagnose. Use ice or heat for pain whatever feels better. Also hydrocidine helped somewhat. It was kinda scary but even that for don't get rid of all the pain. Good luck

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    Everyone is different, but given what I have learned thus far in my own case, I would drop the osteo. Then you could try the physio if you still want to do so when that appointment comes up. I wouldn't cancel the physio meanwhile to give yourself time to make that decision later. 

    My issues started after a clavicle fracture. At first my dr felt it was stiffness in shoulder as residual from the fracture and he ordered physical therapy accordingly. I had a great therapist, but I wasn't progressing at all so went back to see dr. He had told me I was at risk for FS. When I went back and he examined me again he said I definitely had developed FS. At that point he wanted to keep me in therapy a little longer, but he completely changed the orders for the therapy so that they were only doing gentle stretching. I also continued exercises at home. However, I told him that some of the home exercises were causing me greater pain. He said to STOP any  exercises that were causing pain after the exercise. He said it should not hurt after the exercise and that can actually slow the recovery with FS. So I did. When I went for further followup he said I didn't need to continue the physical therapy but just to keep it mobile and do exercises that did not result in worsening or pain afterwards. I feel very comfortable about that plan. I stretch it on doorframes, etc. and do the pendulum exercises, etc. The PT for me did make it feel less tight for a few hours but never did anything to lessen the stiffness or pain. What needs to be done, gentle exercises and stretching, can be done at home. When money is an issue, I just don't think you need to spend the money for all the therapy as long as you are doing what you can to stretch and gently exercise it daily. Even more so, if it is causing additional pain, it isn't good for the FS anyway. My dr is an excellent shoulder specialist with an excellent reputation as a doctor and I have a lot of confidence in him. He has emphasized more than once that with FS you can slow the process by pushing the boundaries with the therapy and exercise. With what I have seen thus far just in my own case, I absolutely agree. 

    One other thing, as far as diagnostics, it's hard to say. I only had an x-ray to rule out fracture or arthritis as my dr felt confident by exam that it was not a rotator cuff injury (that I had wondered about). I have complete confidence in him. If you have the same confidence in your dr I would go with his recommendations. However, if you don't have that level of confidence and still feel there may be other issues, you may want a second opinion. If so, I would research online to choose a dr. 

    Forgot to mention that I have read in several places that thyroid disease puts you at higher risk for FS, so your dr is right about that. I have also read that it is felt autoimmune disease plays a role in some patients and I think that is the case with me. 

    It's a frustrating condition. Some on this forum have recommended MSM supplement to help with pain. That might be something to try as well. 

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      Thanks for the advice that really has helped and it is very kind of you to take the time to help me I really appreciate it . What is msm ? X
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      It is a supplement. You can find it online or anywhere they sell supplements. I did get some and I think it helped some but honestly I have not had the amount of pain that some do, fortunately. Nights are more difficult but even so my pain is manageable. The zingers when I try to move it too far, now that's another matter, but those are brief. However I am considering restarting it as I have read a couple of references that possibly it helps things heal faster. That I honestly don't know and I'm not at all proposing to suggest that myself, but MSM is not expensive, so I figure why not if there's a possibility. Search MSM on this forum group and you will find multiple references to it. 

      One other thing to mention regarding diagnostics and causes. My dr told me that in people my age smile (I'm 60 so older than you but I think it might still apply at 50) a nonsymptomatic rotator cuff tear is not uncommon to find when doing MRIs for example. Thus he said he could MRI my shoulder and find a tear that still actually has nothing to do with my shoulder issues but of course they don't know for sure that it is not causing the issue, so it clouds the issue overall. In my case just based on exam he felt very comfortable that this is strictly a FS issue so he did not feel an MRI was warranted, especially when on top of that it could potentionally give a false lead as to the cause. I hope I'm clearer than mud in how I've stated that! smile Most importantly, everyone is different and you have to be in tune to your symptoms and listen to your gut if you feel further evaluation is necessary for your peace of mind AND make sure you have a dr in whom you have confidence. Finding those can be like finding a needle in a haystack, but the good ones are worth the effort of the search.

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