Methotrexate
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Hello all, I joined this group for my husband who has PMR. He was diagnosed about 14 months ago. Predinisone and other meds have not been successful to treat him so he was put on Methotrexate this week. Does anyone else here have experience with this med, good or bad? Thanks
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Anhaga rose11340
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Daniel is right. If they are trying mtx it may be because it's now being thought he has rheumatoid arthritis. This is a relatively common rediagnosis in the case of pmr that has not responded well to pred.
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MTX doesn't usually work in PMR on its own (if it did, they would use it) - it is almost always used together with pred in the hope it will allow the same effect to be obtained from a lower dose of pred.
However - if he has not had any relief from pred the immediate thought should be that, whatever it is, it is probably not the PMR we talk about her. PMR is just the name given to a set of symptoms what are due to another underlying disease process. In our case it is almost certainly an autoimmune vasculitis (inflamed blood vessels) and the only drug that really works (to date) is pred. However, there are several other possible causes - which should be looked for and ruled out before settling on the dx of the PMR we talk about her.
One other possibility is late onset RA which often does not show joint damage at first. That would respond to pred.
rose11340 EileenH
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I have to say - I can't imagine WHY they don't want to give him enough pred to deal with the problem. The unmanaged inflammation is going to be more risky for his cardiovascular system than pred I would have thought.
If he is presenting with vascular dementia then he may have a different form of vasculitis and he needs to be under an expert. The dementia doesn't affect the blood vessels in the brain - it is the blood vessels in the brain that cause the dementia because the blood flow is impaired. Enough pred might help that but they do use other medications in vascular dementia.
There is a very good vasculitis forum on HealthUnlocked and their helpline may be able to give you some good advice.
And ptolemy's advice is spot-on. Statins may be needed with his cardiovascular history - but they could also be part of the problem.
And unfortunately, if he DOES have PMR then he will need to adapt his cardio stuff - PMR isn't the disease, it is the name given to the symptoms of an underlying autoimmune vasculitis. The autoimmune disease continues in the background and leaves your muscles intolerant of acute exercise. That must be managed by pacing and resting appropriately. Can he do his cardio workut in smaller bites? With rests in between?
rose11340 EileenH
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Well - you have the message at least! If he continues like that - no wonder the pred isn't managing his symptoms. Nor will MTX or anything else. If what he has is PMR and he wants to be reasonably pain-free - then he will have to moderate the exercise he is doing.
And perhaps you have to explain to the doctors that that is what he is doing. They in turn will say exercise is good - yes, it is, but in moderation and preferably well-adapted.
rose11340 EileenH
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Think in that case it is time to give up in the sense of accepting it.
Anyway - we don't care if it isn't you who has the PMR. We'll support anyone where PMR is affecting their life. So don't just disappear.
Anhaga rose11340
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I second Eileen's comment. Please do stay with us as long as you want. ?
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he is a walking pharmacy, he's on about 9 meds.....2 blood pressure pills, a cholesgtrol reducer, 2 anti-depressants, Xanax, prednisone and now methotrexate.
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there are days when he seems so out of it from all of his meds, days where he seems like he in a trance. I feel sorry for him. He is only 62. He manages to go to the gym daily to do his cardios (for the heart attack) but that seems to make him more tired and achy. It's very frustrating. They diagnosed the OMY about 14 mos ago when his C-reaction protein tests came back extremely high
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Yikes. Maybe time to get that combination looked at? Have they been prescribed by different doctors? Would a pharmacist go through the list with you to help figure out if there's a particular one or combination which could be causing some of the problems? I don't really know how these things are handled, but must be someone out there with advice.
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His PMR has spilled into every area of our life. We are no longer close physcially because of his chronic pain and depression that accompanies the PMR. It's a vicious circle. And he is so stubborn he wont take any advice from me. I talked to his doctor about all this, doctor advised me to find happiness in my own way- make friends, cultivate hobbies, etc, I can't do anything to change the situation if he is being that stubborn. I feel helpless. I am seeing a family counselor next week maybe it will help, I think so.
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I do hope so. I do appreciate he's had a rough ride - but men can be very obtuse when they are unwell. I have one of those too - but we've been together for 47 years!
You sound to have a very sensible and wise doctor - listen to him. I know it isn't what you looked forward to but maybe it will improve. Don't centre yourself on him - you count too.
Anhaga rose11340
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Definitely reaching out to others is a good thing to do. I feel so bad for both of you. He must be feeling so inadequate and doesn't know how to display his affection for you. Maybe in looking for another activity you would find something completely new that you both could do together? Something which won't make him feel pressured or inadequate and which would give you a chance to do something with him? Perhaps the counselor will have some good suggestions. ?