Don't know what to think anymore

Yeah, it's all pretty confusing at this point and like my subject header says I don't know what to think.

I hadn't heard about/thought about any bladder meds, like Toviaz.

I'll look into that.

Thanks again.

I see my uro again in mid July.

I plan on staying on the Avodart and Cialis 5mg Daily until then at least.

Generally speaking, my symptoms probably are marginally better nowadays then they were a couple of months ago.

E.g. During the day my urges to pee are noticeably less.

And at night, occasionally, I'll be able to go for 2 or 3 hours w/o waking up to pee but that's pretty rare.

So it might just be that the Avodart is taking a lot longer to work for me than it does with most people.

But I'm just guessing/hoping.

I do take several supplements though and I might try eliminating some of them.

Thanks again.

The first ever PVP patient in America flew to Japan a few days after his procedure. Note laser surgery to me it is a procedure not an operation. 

PAE has none of that but has better outcomes with no cutting. Seems a no brainer to me. 

I had no incontinence with either procedure and I was 71 when I had the first and 78 when I had the second. Basically no bleeding after the third day of PVP apart from a little spurt at the start and that was from the urethra that suffers a lot of trauma during the procedure. With the Holmium laser no bleeding after the catheter was taken out. I had a lot more bleeding after my two prostate biopsies.

I don't know why but most problem stories seem to come from America. Perhaps it is because there are so many of them posting on Forums.

Crystal clear on day three and no diapers:

I came round about 4.00PM feeling a slight pain in my penis and what felt like the need to urinate, however that feeling was probably due to the catheter being in. John (the urologist)  came round to see me pleased with how the procedure had gone. He said that they started lasing at 1.53 and finished at 2.50. He said that the Median Lobe was not

bad and that the Lateral Lobes had been my problem. He described them as looking like a floppy saggy bottom pressing against each side my bladder. He said that no bladder neck resection was needed and that Phil the head urologist)  tries to avoid that as it is the cause of retrograde ejaculation. John did the procedure and said that Phil had been there at the start when they had planned what to do and that Phil had popped in a couple of times from the next theatre to see how things were going and again before John had started on the Lateral Lobes. I had been give shots of two types of broad band penicillin during the procedure and a shot of morphine.I had every confidence in John who is a lovely guy, very enthusiastic in what he does  and very caring. Soon I was drinking a cup of tea and waiting for dinner. I had no pain during the night and did not need any painkillers. I kept on drinking and watching the catheter bag fill up with a nice Red Wine, it needed to be emptied three times before the catheter was removed the next morning at seven.

Now for the moment of truth by peeing on my own.  I was drinking plenty (the nurse said too much) but it was not until 11.45 that I passed a red 100ml. John came in to see me and said that he would come back in the afternoon and that if I was voiding properly could go home.He suggested that I might be dehydrated but I did not think so from the volumes passed in the night. My wife had already checked out of her hotel as we had assumed that things would be OK.

1PM 250 ml pink. 2.30 150 ml pink and a scan showed a residue of 193 ml. 2.50PM  190 ml and much lighter but the scan showed 329 ml retained. John came back in and said that as I had a long train journey home he would be happier if stayed overnight. My wife went off to find another hotel as the Best Western had no vacancies for that night.

5.10PM  220 ml rosy but only due to the few drops of blood at the start.

8.05PM  150 ml retained 290 ml. 11.00PM 300 ml quickly followed by another 100 ml before bed. Woke up at 2.00 AM and passed 500 ml with a decent flow and another 300 ml at 3.45 AM. 7.00AM 300 ml followed by 100 ml at 7.30. but back to my usual slow rate ending in a weak dribble. Drinking a lot but no more until 10.30 200 ml.Passed another 250 ml at 11.30 but the scan showed 416 ml retained. We went

for a walk to get some fresh air and missed John's visit (He had said that

he would just phone the ward to check on me) He said that I could go and that when drinking normally at home things should settle down. He also gave me a three day course of Trimethoprim.

I was restless the first night at home and kept on going and passed 1700 ml in small amounts all crystal clear.During the morning I passed a total of 1000 ml in five visits to the toilet.  I felt 100% well and set off for a

day at the local racecourse. Just like any normal day dodging around from the paddock to the bookies and climbing up the grandstand to get a good view.

Roadworks and  we had to take an indirect route. Our journey took 90 minutes using busses rather than the usual 40. Normally I get off the bus and go straight to the toilet but not yesterday. Friends I spoke to could not believe that I had an operation only three days ago.

I had two large mugs of coffee and was getting worried that I had not needed yet and tried about 4.45 and probably passed only 200ml. 

Last night was better waking up at 2.50 and 5.30 passing a total of 800 ml. I have not been drinking so much today to see what that does and results have been on the low slow side and I have been forgetting to record the volumes"