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Dosage of Zopiclone?

I am interested what dosage of Zopiclone other users (especially long term users) are prescribed, as I am a concerned daughter whose 65 year old mother is very addicted to this drug. She has taken various drugs for insomnia and depression for a very long time, the lastest being Zopiclone for the last two years, she takes 250mg a night (5 x 50mg), which I think is far too high a dosage.

She has severe side effects like slurring and memory problems, and her drowsiness the next day can sometimes be so bad she is incoherent, and has now fallen on several occasions. I am worried for her safety and would appreciate some feedback on the dosage other people with experience of this drug are on.

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  • Guest

    Ignore my 1st thread, put the wrong dosage of Zopiclone see below:-

    I am interested what dosage of Zopiclone other users (especially long term users) are prescribed, as I am a concerned daughter whose 65 year old mother is very addicted to this drug. She has taken various drugs for insomnia and depression for a very long time, the lastest being Zopiclone for the last two years, she takes 22.5mg a night (3 x 7.5mg), as well as 250mg Amitripiline.

    She has severe side effects like slurring and memory problems, and her drowsiness the next day can sometimes be so bad she is incoherent, and has now fallen on several occasions. I am worried for her safety and would appreciate some feedback on the dosage other people with experience of this drug are on.

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    • jimdandy Guest

      I am an expert on Zopiclone, having taken it successfully for 16 years without too much side effect.  22.5mg per night is way too high. On that level she will be like a zombie by day, with poor mental abilty, memory loss, and more, particularly poor motor control, hence the falling down.  

      You need to get her down to 7.5mg

      Try going wiithout any at all fir one night. Her sleep will be terrible or non-existant.  Then follow that with an early night with the 7.5mg dose. She will be so tired that she'll slleep.

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    • Birdy76 Guest

      May I suggest as a 73 year old Zopiclone taker by repeat prescription, that your mother drops off the 250 Amitriptyline which in my experience is the real problem here. Prior to taking Zopiclone and being a severe insomniac, I was given the rather dubious Amitriptyline for mild depression and to aid sleep. That alone destroyed my mental abilities, made me a fat, indolent "Zombie" who just wasted each day in a mental fog. ( I was on no other drugs ) In one year I had 57 falls, many included head injuries and just before the one that almost killed me, I fell down 16 outdoor concrete steps. I survived somehow, just, without breaking any bones. My weight had doubled in five years and for the first time in my life I was fat and unfit ( age 71 ) . This was just the precurser to the "big one" which occured in my kitchen around midnight Dec 17th 2014. I just fell in my kitchen for no apparent reason. I was unconscious for eight days with severe blood loss, head injuries and almost at the point of death (Temp 28 c ) when a Paramedic broke the door down and saved my life. In hospital for over three weeks unable  to stand and walk, and still cannot walk any distance without help all my head and brain injuries affected the functions of lower limbs and abdominal organs only. I now depend totally on the Internet for all my shopping etc, I was returned home with full time nursing care which was gradually reduced until I was helped by family members alone. I had still not even heard of Zopiclone at this point. Kept on a reduced amount of Amitriptyline the falls continued and there were times when I had to sleep on the floor, or should I say, try to sleep because I couldn't get back on my feet. Following a further twelve months I decided exactly one year ago to stop taking Am' and binned them all. There were several weeks when I went without sleep for four or five nights then short spells or maybe a couple of hours when I seemed to doze off a little. Gradually my old personality returned along with all my talents as a musician, writer and artist- all of which had vanished while "drugged up" on Am'. The insomnia continued making me feel ill but not stopping me from working full time- average 80 minimum a week, but at least I was me again and the weight I had gained simply fell off me and one year later I am back to my normal wieght of eight & half stone. My new Doctor prescribed me Zopiclone 7.5 mg x 2 per night and I now sleep without any difficulty for approx' 5-6 hours per night, all I need. My mind is as clear as a bell and I have never felt better, Attending College again in my 70s, learning the piano and about to have my second novel published. I am no longer the "fuzzed up", and dopey person I was on Amitriptyline, in fact my mind is better than it has ever been, sharp, clear, creative etc. No drowsiness or loss of balance whatsoever, no more worry about not sleeping, no slurred speech as I give Public Lectures etc. My memory is superb, I can still speak three languages, play instruments, write books and articles and plan to tour the world. Therefore, I hope this will help you. Perhaps your mother should give up the real culprit which nearly cost me my life and take just two Zopiclone tablets. She may have to struggle a little at first but other than insomnia I did not have any back effects from throwing away the overly prescribed and rather "unknown" drug Amitriptyline. The best thing I ever did and I did not even consult a Doctor I just knew that drug was destroying my life little by little. Now I an fit, alert, socially active, hardworking, slim and raring to go. Please come back to me for any further information and I will help in any way I can. My family can back up any word I have written here as they witnessed all the changes and no longer worry about me, I have not had a single fall in the past year or even been wobbly - 250mg Am' was almost my death sentence but Zop' has been a God send. This is just my personal experience but I felt I had to respond to your plight immediately. I get the impression that Doctors consider Am' a cure all, it is not, in my opinion doses over 50mg should be banned, no one really knows how it works or what it does and it will do her no harm to get off this chemical nightmare and perhaps reduce the Zopiclone just a little, she should come back to life unless she has some other medical condition causing memory problems. I was tested and x-rayed for a multitude of possible ailments due to my clumsiness, forgetfulness and continual falls and all the time the cause was this high dose of Amitriptyline and no-one questioned it and still wouldn't so I made the decision myself and now all is well and couldn't be better as I approach age 74, and my world tour. 

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    • Birdy76 jimdandy

      I'm sorry, please read my comments below- you are no expert as you are not including her mother's almost leathal dose of Amitriptyline, a drug I know only too well. Her mother's problems are caused by the other drug she is on although the combination may be making matters much worse.  Her Zopiclone may be a little too high but I have taken that strength on odd occasions without any adverse effects whatsoever and I work on average an 80 hour week and also have many responsibilities of a very serious nature which require me to be 100% alert. I do realise drugs affect each of us in a particular way, but this cocktail is a dangerous one and the greatest danger is not the one you mention and the one which has obviously served you well. You actuallu re-inforce my arguement that Zopiclone is a good drug for those really in need of it and some of us are. Although 73 I am busy day and night ( by choice ) I have every reason to be totally worn out and tired but I remain an insomniac without Zopiclone. A problem which in itself can be dangerous and requires treatment. I am not talking about those who have spells of not sleeping on and off, but those of us with a genuine medical condition which threatens life and limb. If you read my other comments directed to the person requesting help you will see what I am referring to.

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  • Guest

    I cannot believe what I am reading on these experiences. It says in the leaflet to start elderly on 3.75mg and increase to double if necessary...not more than that. sad You must do something for your mum. I have been on them 2 months and am getting scared. I do not sleep if I do not take..so if I stop..then what? And at least I slept some before I started...I should have been satisfied with the small ammount I got. Best wishes.

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  • Guest

    Many Thanks for your reply. My mum thinks she is ok because she is prepared to put up with the bad side effects as long as she gets a fairly decent nights sleep, but I feel this will only get worse.

    I have spoken to her doctor regarding my concerns, and will again because although with my mum's drug taking history she is probably quite hard to treat, I feel the doctors need to take more responsiblity and after reading about peoples personal experiences about the drug, I am seeing it from another perspective and not just what my mum tells me, but it does convince me that this is a potentially a dangerous drug.

    Many Thanks

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  • Guest

    Zopliclone and Amtriptiline is a very very dangerous combination. Both have sedative affects and relax the body. Too much relaxation could lead to her swallowing her tongue or something more sinister. I know this was posted in Jan... but I cannot believe what I am reading. I started on 7.5mg of Zopiclone and was increased to 15mg. But now after only 3 weeks on it, I seem to be taking 22.5mg of it. The affects do not bother me aslong as I get sleep. I can symphathise with your mother, but taking both drugs? Even if Amtrip is an antidepressant, it's used more as a painkiller now-a-days. My dad takes it to stop his knee hurting.

    My advice, if it's still a problem. Get her to the doctors. It's definately not good. 22.5mg is far too high. It's actually classed as Overdosing. According to the leaflet that comes with Zopiclone, the max dosage is 15mg. and Elderly patients should be on 3.25mg to be increased as needed which is half a 7.5mg tablet. 22.5 for her is too much. Far far too much.

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  • ben95918

    I am a 40 year old man, who recently had a Heart Attack. I Told the Doctor I was afraid of Sleeping since, in case I woke up dead, and I have been Prescribed Zopiclone. I dont thonk I have an addictive Receptor for it, but I do use around 50 mg a Day, especially when I have no Valium, which I use for Daytime Anxiety. I dont feel any funny side effects.

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  • charlotte18821 db1

    I'm aware this was over a year ago but am shocked that your mother was prescribed that. Incredibly irresponsible of the doctor and you should consider taking her elsewhere. That is a very dangerous combination and both high dosages. I have tried amitryptalin and zopiclone but zopiclone is addictive and I only use it when I need it and certainly not at that dose. Suggest to her doctor quetiapin. It will calm her during the day and then at night she will sleep well. She is going to have to be weaned off zopiclone and go through withdraw. Quetiapin is non habit forming and non addictive and used during the day and at night

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  • danbes db1

    If your mom hasn't already tried it,I suggest you check with your doctor about her using an anti-depressent called Trazadone, which I took for quite a whiile to combat insomnia. Took a few days to work, but then worked almost like magic, with almost no morning after wooziness.  The best, Dan

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  • smcg3182 db1

    OMG .... 250mg is a massive dose!! I was on 7.5mg for about 10yrs. I felt as if they were turning me into a zombie. They had even stopped helping me sleep.

    I had a kind of drug hangover in the mornings. My thinking was less sharp, my memory was shocking, I was tired all the time and my joy for life was gone.

    My choice was to increase the dose or dump the pills and try to sleep naturally. It was difficult, as I was ill with withdrawal symptoms for a week, but I ditched the zopiclone.

    Five weeks later.... I am alert, lucid and more positive. I feel happy to be alive. I won't lie... I do still lie awake some nights, but I'm ok. I am glad I am drug free.

    I was on zopiclone as a result of depression and stress from long-term illness and bereavement.

    Like me, your mother won't realise she's addicted to the pills, after all, her gp prescribed them. She won't see how she's changed... She just thinks she's unwell, getting older and slowing down.

    I can not understand how she functions at all on such a high dose. I actually am surprised that she's still alive!!

    Please speak to your doctor and,seek advice. I think you are right to be concerned.

    Best of luck to you. X

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  • smcg3182 db1

    OMG .... 250mg is a massive dose!! I was on 7.5mg for about 10yrs. I felt as if they were turning me into a zombie. They had even stopped helping me sleep.

    I had a kind of drug hangover in the mornings. My thinking was less sharp, my memory was shocking, I was tired all the time and my joy for life was gone.

    My choice was to increase the dose or dump the pills and try to sleep naturally. It was difficult, as I was ill with withdrawal symptoms for a week, but I ditched the zopiclone.

    Five weeks later.... I am alert, lucid and more positive. I feel happy to be alive. I won't lie... I do still lie awake some nights, but I'm ok. I am glad I am drug free.

    I was on zopiclone as a result of depression and stress from long-term illness and bereavement.

    Like me, your mother won't realise she's addicted to the pills, after all, her gp prescribed them. She won't see how she's changed... She just thinks she's unwell, getting older and slowing down.

    I can not understand how she functions at all on such a high dose. I actually am surprised that she's still alive!!

    Please speak to your doctor and,seek advice. I think you are right to be concerned.

    Best of luck to you. X

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  • smcg3182 db1

    Sorry.... I have posted my initial reply twice. I hadn't seen your correction of the dosage.

    However, I still stand by by concerns. The effect of the combination of drugs that she has is potentially fatal.

    I'm not medically trained but all that I have read causes alarm bells to ring.

    Your biggest obstacle in this will probably be your mum herself. If she's 'happy' with her medication, there's not a lit you can do. X

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  • ruth93165 db1

    The highest that I was ever on was 3 7.5 tablets which was prescribed by my psychiatrist and this was considered the highest safe dose. How is your mother obtaining this large amount of tablets? No under doctor would prescribe this amount. I eventually started abusing zoplicone and doctor shopping which I did for about a decade. If your mother is addicted she will likely not want to give up this medication. She might have to be hospitalized to undergo aa supervised taper. Perhaps try speaking with her doctor.

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  • sakarias1337 db1

    Hey, i don't know how i found this thread but i just had to make an account to reply to it. 22.5 MG of Zopiclone is not dangerous AT ALL. 

    i've eaten dosages as high as 100 MG. it does make you a bit funny (High really)

    its even hard to OD on these tabblets, i mean really really hard! it could never happen by misstake (that is if you don't like to take 500-1000 MG per time or so lol)

    but anyway, Zopiclone is not Physically adictive as Smoking or Benzodiazepins.

    they are ''Psycholigy'' addictive.

    but there's nothign to worry about any Longterm Physical Damage.

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  • Davesoapbox db1

    Hi there,

    The book says zopiclone dosed at 7.5mg trouble is these are designated short term use only because they are addictive and people quickly become accustomed to them, I'm supposed to be on 7.5mg at night to help me sleep, in now in bed and feel drowsy I have had 22.5mg, I use them in the day because I find them better than diazepam. And I'm sure when my psych finds out next Thursday I will be taken off them oh well

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  • sarah61989 db1

    Hey - has your mum tried "Restavit"? It's an over the counter sleep drug here in down under. It does make you drowsy in the day though I find. But you could try a tiny dose. We also have it here as a combination OTC: paracetamol codeine doxylamine succinate. The other thing I use for sleep is Travel calm - the stuff for sea sickness, but make sure you don't get the one with caffeine in it (even though that's the one I use to put me to sleep because I use zopiclone during the day).

    I'm 29 and I've been taking 7.5 tablets of zopiclone for several years, it's been a MIRACLE drug.

    I was depressed/ had severe c-PTSD from age 8-21, tried to kill myself several times, one of which I survived by mere chance which traumatises me to this day.

    My long term stress led me to a chronic pain disorder (fibromyalgia, sciatica and lots of muscular-skeletal pain not just in the joints but just about everywhere), and severe leg craps at night, despite having no organic cause that any xray/ MRI/ bone scan/ blood test etc could find. 

    I was prescribed Zopicone 7.5mg for insomnia due to leg cramps but it soon stopped working. For about 5 years the combination of 2.5mg Endone (Oxycodone) and 7.5 zopiclone helped my pain like nothing else. It also gave me an amazing amount of motivation, energy, confidence and belief in myself.

    Two years ago I moved house and I had a relapse, developed chronic fatigue, job problems, etc.. and yeah I pretty much have a drug problem now, but I'm trying to control it so I can keep taking around 3-4 tablets a day which my doc know about. I've tried every anti-depressant, anti-psychotic, nerve pain drug, benzos, and a million vitamins-  you name it, I've tried it. Imovane and my very expensive physio = life is good.

    Point being, if someone told me it would reduce my life expectancy by 10 or 20 years... I'm not sure I wouldn't still be worth it.

     

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  • IMustBeMad db1

    None of us can really comment properly as we dont know if it part of palliative care,while 22.5 may seem high to us,im sure the dr knows the patients history,im prescribed 40mg on Diazepam (5mgs,as i find it very rare a Dr will prescribe 10mg tablets these days,the excuse is 'incase you sell them' im sure if you were,the buyer wouldnt care if they 2mg,5mg,10mg) for daytime and for sleep i get 1 7.5 and 1 3.75 of Zopiclone,as i always wake around 4am,and found i couldnt get back to sleep,so i take the 3.75 when i wake,and gets me through until 7.30 ish,ive tried Temaz,Nitraz and find they dont make sleepy at all just 'relaxed',I was prescribed Temazepam 25 years ago,and slept right through on 30mg,but they then stopped the Gel ones,stopped the 30mg and changed the recipe (its 100% not my tolerance)-shame as they worked great-the only thing that comes close now is Rohypnol,but your more likely to win the Lotto than have a normal GP prescribe you that,but if you go private it seems 'money talks' and they will prescribe,same with Xanax (alprozolam),by far the best for anxiety,but not prescribed on the NHS,i got them privately but just couldnt keep up with the costs

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