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jennifer_99224
jennifer_99224

I have been suffering with FS for the past 5 months.  I just got a book by dr. John Kirsch who advises to start hanging.  Has anyone tried this?

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  • mymaude
    mymaude jennifer_99224

    Posted

    Hi Jennifer. When I was approx 8 months in to my FS I was talking to a man from Holland who said he had `hung` from a ladder everyday to sort his out. When I pointed out that the pain must have been horrific he replied that it was agony but he was sorted in a matter of weeks. Personally I don`t think I could have put myself through it but each to their own. Good luck.
  • jennifer_99224
    jennifer_99224

    Posted

    Thanks Mymaude, I can't imagine another 5 miserable months of this so I am going to try it.
  • Guest
    Guest jennifer_99224

    Posted

    Dear Jennifer,

    Yes, I have tried hanging.  The short answer is it works.  The longer answer is that it is extraordinarily painful.

    I call "hanging" the stepping up onto a set of "monkey bars" or the gymnasium equivalent of "Monkey Bars" and then holding onto the bars and hanging ones body down.

    Yes, this hurts a lot and you have to have a chair or bench below to quickly step on to in case the pain becomes insurmountably horrific.

    After a while--I began to experience a strange joy in knowing that the pain I was experiencing was those godawful "Adhesions" being stretched, pulled, elongated and broken.

    The stretching of the Adhesions and the breaking of the Adhesions is the goal and the "Hanging" accomplishes this goal.  

    Hanging from "Monkey Bars" and allowing gravity to pull and stretch and break the Adhesions along with having the Physical Therapist pull and stretch them in various directions helped me tremendously.

    I hope my description of my "Hanging" with my Adhesive Capsules helps you and I hope your frozen shoulder improves and heals soon.

    I recovered to about 75-80% of where my arm was prior to the onset of my case of Frozen Shoulder.  

    I have been tempted to have the MUA performed but for a variety of reasons including work and time I am holding off on MUA for a while longer and will continue to "Hang" and stretch my arm and shoulder..

  • sorano
    sorano jennifer_99224

    Posted

    I read somewhere, in some cultures, must be old days, in order to cure FS, tie the arm with FS with a rope and other end on a rock or tree and jump off a cliff...

     

    Bobby, my teenage kids said to me, go to a kid's park and hang form monkey bars! I never thought someone do that! lol You are very brave. I checked a local park today but didn't have courage to go into since I don't have young kids with me any more and there were so many. Maybe after half term...

    Please take care if you do anything drastic!

  • AntheaS
    AntheaS jennifer_99224

    Posted

    I've tried it and the pain was intolerable. So, yes..I too believe that'll work, but my pain threshold or rather lack there of is a barrier I just can't even imagine doing again. I'd have to be anaethetised or unconscious! Perhaps a shot of morphine and then you go hang yourself. Not sure where to get my hands on a couple of viles. Good luck.
    • caitlin39841
      caitlin39841 AntheaS

      Posted

      how about having the cortiszone to relieve the pain and then do the hanging. btw, i'd never have the pain threshold to do the hanging. i cried when the radiologist pushed my arm (gently) around to get a few views. it sounds kinda 'middle ages' medicine.

      Caitli

    • Guest
      Guest caitlin39841

      Posted

      In medicine the "old is now new".  Many hospitals are using maggots and leeches to suck blood after reconstructive surgery and to aid with severe infection.

      Maggots and Leeches were used in the Medieval World by "doctors" and now modern medicine has borrowed a page from the so-called "Middle-Ages".

      The "Medieval" use of Maggots and Leeches to suck blood is working quite well.  

      The goal of streching and pulling and breaking the Adhesions which cause "Frozen Shoulder" is exactly what happens in Manipulation Under Anesthesia or MUA.

      Hanging from "Chin-Up" Bars, Parallel Bars or Monkey Bars or any Gymnasium elevated Bars will assist in you in the stretching and pulling of the Adhesions that have formed.

      One need not "Jolt" or cause a Violent "Jerking" of the Adhesions...rather one slowly stretches out the arm with a bench below to stand on should the stretching pain become to painful.

  • jennifer_99224
    jennifer_99224

    Posted

    Hello all, thanks for all your posts.  I did have a cortisone shot, but it did absolutely nothing for me.  After seeing so many doctors and therapists, and getting no relief, hanging seems to make sense compared to everything else I've tried.  While I can barely get my bad arm overhead, I will keep stretching it above until I can actually hang especially when I hear some people get FS a second time as continued hanging is supposed to prevent that again.  It does seem hurt like hell and barbaric, but modern medicine has not been able to help that much during these past 5 months.
    • caitlin39841
      caitlin39841 jennifer_99224

      Posted

      my reservation, with 'hanging' is that the sudden ''assault'' to the shoulder & the further ''wrenching'' will cause more lesions that will later become adhesions?

      Caitlin

  • Louise1923
    Louise1923 jennifer_99224

    Posted

    Wow...I have heard of the 'hanging' technique..though I tried ...v v briefly to stretch my arm a tiny bit...& that was enough for me to stop with ++ pain. Though I agree if one could stretch everyday a tiny bit ...well then progress could be made!

    I'm no further forward with this 2nd FS pain, miserable waking up every night for months & months...takes its toll, regardless of how positive I aim to be! I have a long  awaited physio appointment tomorrow (waited 2 months for a shoulder specialist) fingers crossed ...will see what they have to say & what they can ...if anything...offer me...as I'm out of ideas now..

    ...also so wish the term Frozen Shoulder would disappear, as it seems to make light of this awful disability...long or short term! 

    Take Big care Louise 

  • mia57561
    mia57561 jennifer_99224

    Posted

    I suffer from fs, since an injury in Oct of last yr, nothing helped the pain is insufferable, I had surgery on June 2 and tho I am making slow progress in therPy the pain has still not let up, if anyone knows how to relieve the smallest amount of pain plz let me know
    • caitlin39841
      caitlin39841 mia57561

      Posted

      hi mia. i know how awful the pain can be, so u have my sympathies. none of the NSAID touched the pain for me. 30 mgs of codein phosphate takes the edge off the pain @ night, together with a hot water bottle or any kind of heat.

      hope u get some relief soon.

      Caitlin

    • mia57561
      mia57561 caitlin39841

      Posted

      I've tried it all from narcotics to buying my own ice machine nothing helps and I get barely any sleep it's wearing me out going into nine months bf long Ima need a shrink cause it's driving me crazy, so if ya hear of anything let me know thanks for letting me blabber on
    • caitlin39841
      caitlin39841 mia57561

      Posted

      no worries re blabbering. that's what the forum is for. so sorry to hear ur having such a horrible time. have u tried the NSAID's at all?

      Caitlin

    • mia57561
      mia57561 caitlin39841

      Posted

      Yes, I started out with injection but as a diabetic those injection are a non no put me in the hospital, I'm an currently three weeks I think so 've surgery and still can't pull my pants up with my right arm I'm staring to loose momentum and hope but my youngest child (19) keeps me going
    • caitlin39841
      caitlin39841 mia57561

      Posted

      gosh that's tough. what about the oral NSAID's? could ur system cope with them - say like naproxen? they work to varying degrees for some ppl ?

      C

    • mia57561
      mia57561 caitlin39841

      Posted

      Non of the oral ones helped at all but I sure do pray daily for relief
    • caitlin39841
      caitlin39841 mia57561

      Posted

      since u pray , have u tried hand on healing at all? it would also help u sleep better?

      C

    • caitlin39841
      caitlin39841 mia57561

      Posted

      hands on healing from a registered healer or church minister or soem healing groups that are willing to do healing for u?

      Caitlin

    • caitlin39841
      caitlin39841 mia57561

      Posted

      we a narional federation of trained healers here in the uk & there are chapters in all the towns and cities. i'd imagine u have similar in the US?
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