Not a coconut oil,day!

Sus28 · 2015-11-23T07:13:20.167+00:00

Is winter here?it sure is very cold here today.9My coconut oil is not melting as I put it on!!!Could be a problem?

lee12629 Sus28

Posted 8 years ago

Ladies..question.the vit e,vaseline, im assuming the coconut oil..well does tend to make underwear cling..for me that irritates, when do you apply It? Does that happen with the underwear thing?

chris00938 lee12629

Posted 8 years ago

It doesn't make underwear cling at all Lee. It's not sticky. Because I've got my pessary knob sticking down I use it twice a day generally, or more if I'm using my exercise bike more and feel the knob rubbing at all, but I'd have thought you might well get away with just using it at night. Although I think if you're sore when you start using it, it might just help using it twice a day initially and then drop down to one. When I started using it I dolloped it on every time I did a wee and then reduced it. It's very cheap in comparison to other products though. I've found it's easiest to use it while it's fairly solid so I can take a piece and push it up but the cold weather made it set harder so I went at it with a sharp knive and broke it up into smaller pieces in the jar so it's easier to use. It starts melting with the heat of your fingers though, so will melt quickly inside.
lee12629 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

Aww thanks again friend
Sus28 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

thanks for that chris
chris00938 Sus28

Posted 8 years ago

just saw I wrote sharp 'knive' rather than 'knife' - don't you just hate seeing a previous error! But seriously, I think coconut oil is at least as good as Vit E capsules and Key E pessaries, and much cheaper than those. I don't think it will be as good long term as the products with hyalaronic acid though and if I felt I was having more of a problem with atrophy I'd go back on to something like those.
lee12629 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

I think the vit e is ok..but sticky.im talking the capsule..not much in them either.The H acid I just betcha the doc will act clueless again lol.But I am getting a second opinion in a few weeks on hrt etcJust learned today husbands company is switching healthcare providers..am nervous wondering what kind of worthless expensive policy we will be stuck with.
chris00938 lee12629

Posted 8 years ago

I hope whatever policy you get Lee, you get something to help, that's for sure!
Sus28 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

You know you chug along for a few months and it's bearable and then along comes a big irritation! And you wonder where the heck it came from.
stared taking krill oil as suggested on eye forum for rues and wonder if that has knocked me out of kilter, so to speak, in my vagina.
Sus28 lee12629

Posted 8 years ago

Oh heck! Hope it works out
chris00938 Sus28

Posted 8 years ago

What happened Sus? How did the krill oil affect you? I take it.
Sus28 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

All of a sudden 3 days ago I felt so sore. Like I had been slashed with a razor. Tested ph , it's ok. All looks pink down there. Only thing different is I started taking krill about ten days ago.
might be wrong. I may be sensitive yo it. That's how VA is though. You find something and all is ok then wham bang it changes and you are back at square one!
Sus28 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

Are your eyes poorly too chris?
lee12629 Sus28

Posted 8 years ago

I forgot sus are you on an hrt?
chris00938 Sus28

Posted 8 years ago

It's strange - I started Krill oil because I thought my hair was getting slightly thinner and suddenly, months later, realised I didn't need my dry eye drops anymore! Then I read that some people were using it for dry eyes:-))) Mine are down to the Ehlers Danlos though - the connective tissue thing that affects all sorts of things.
Sus28 lee12629

Posted 8 years ago

No but have been
Sus28 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

I have researched it n there can be a lot of side affects but there can be with many other medicines
beverly52803 Sus28

Posted 8 years ago

Well, this is a coincidence! I was MIA for a couple of weeks after switching to another computer, but now a message has suddenly appeared and what are people discussing but krill oil which I just ordered on line because of what I had read here about it helping with dry eyes. I thought I might try taking it every other day. Also thought I would try probiotics (again) although I never noticed any benefit in the past. Still have not ventured toward the hormone cream as the AV seems to be static. Some occasional burning only. Did not visit the gyno this year so no painful exam. Re the coconut oil, never knew it not to melt on contact.
lee12629 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

You must have had a fairly good year..i think i went 7 times alone just to the gyno..but this is still new to me..so still confuseng
beverly52803 lee12629

Posted 8 years ago

Yes, I'm having good enough years. My problems began about 15 years ago and lasted for 5 miserable years. My issue (an infection) was finally resolved thanks to a GP who prescribed what my gyno refused to (Flagyl) which cured me. However it was also the start of menopause and with that came the beginning of AV. My symptoms have never been very bad, although the gyno's I have seen have been recommending hormone cream all along lest the atrophy get worse. But I am reluctant to use hormones. As long I don't have an exam or attempt to have sex I get by with a little coconut oil & proper PH soaps. Have tried vit E though I'm not sure that does much for me (could be I should use it more frequently, but I don't like the stickiness of it).
Good luck with your appts. I know what that is like. Doctors aren't equipped to solve the AV problem other than to prescribe hormones which obviously comes with some risk. So it comes down to that or cobbling together some relief with lotions and potions. Some women complain of problems using the hormones. I think women have been suffering in silence for many years, but now that there are forums like this the problem is being openly discussed. If things get bad for me I am holding on to the hope of that Mona Lisa treatment.
Sus28 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

I got krill for my eyes and when I took i t started with itching vagina so now taken myself off of it. Funny how we both have poorly eyes and vagina,!
lee12629 Sus28

Posted 8 years ago

Add a third person to the eyes and VA lol
lee12629 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

I am hopeing to be able to wait a few years so that i can see how women really do with the mona lisa touch..hopefully by then insurance will also cover it.Our health costs are through the roof..having sub standard expensive insurance which does not cover alot of things..always a worry with that.
chris00938 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

It does melt on contact Beverly, just takes slightly longer. The biggest problem was that it was more solid in the jar LOL! But I took a knife to it in the jar and got it in small pieces, so it just pushes up easily like a pessary. I'm still using it twice a day. I'm using a panty pad during the day because I tend to use quite a lot of the coconut, and changed the make this week and got sore! So am going back to the other ones!
chris00938 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

Ah yes! Flagyl, also known as Metronidazole, is a very good antibiotic and I actually keep a spare course of it here (I should add that I don't take antibiotics unless i KNOW I need them!). I've been given it for various issues over the years as I'm allergic to penicillin. How old are you Beverly? (Hope you don't mind me asking). I'm hoping that the good old coconut will see me through too:-))) I'm 66. But I think you've hit the nail on the head about cobbling together some relief with lotions and potions - it's a case of finding what works for you, but then it seems that some women DON'T find the relief with non hormonal products and that's when the choice becomes so limited. If the coconut oil stops working for me then I'm going on to the hyalaronic acid gel - I have my plan of action, and that always helps!
chris00938 lee12629

Posted 8 years ago

I was wondering if it was purely coincidence about the krill oil affecting the vagina as well, but then when you hear more people say the same thing, you just have to think there might be something in it! I did see a site the other day about various foods and drinks to avoid (sorry Lee, alchohol was one of them and caffeine and loads of other things!). But at least it didn't say cake!:-))))))))
beverly52803 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

chris, I'm 67. Am also single so that gives me an advantage in that I'm not trying to achieve the impossible by having sex. If I were then I'd be in the same postion many of you are in which is damned if you do and damned if you don't. I also have made note of the hyalaronic acid and will try it if symptoms worsen.
chris00938 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

Ah, so we're close in age. I think we are on the luckier end of things, judging from how many women much younger than us are having horrendous problems.
beverly52803 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

my most recent gyno wanted me to use Premarin to prevent more serious problems from developing. After reading about all the problems here I now understand what the doctor meant. (For whatever reason she hadn't gone into detail.) One of the posters here warned me that the problems can get so bad she advised I should use the hormone cream. I just am very reluctant to do so because my sister has stage 4 breast cancer (caused, I am sure, by taking hormones). She was the only female in my family to do so and the only one who has gotten cancer. The doctor felt that the dosage is weak and not as much gets into the bloodstream as taking pills, but....
chris00938 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

Beverly I am SO SO sorry to hear about your sister. I had similar feelings about it because my mother died from breast cancer, but I let the doctor talk me into vagifem, telling me it was safe, even at three times the recommended dose. I find this incredibly difficult to know what the answer is! I can see it from both sides. I can absolutely understand why women don't want to use hormone treatment because of the risks, but at the same time I can also understand why some women do resort to it when there don't seem to be any other options for them that work! My feeling is that if things are reasonable without using hormone cream it's better to carry on as you are, because things might not get any worse, and who knows what the future holds in any respect, so personally I think I wouldn't use a hormone (well, I wouldn't and couldn't anyway because of my history now, but if that hadn't happened) until the time came and I then felt I had no other options if nothing else would work at that point. But I wouldn't use anything that was risky to put of an 'in case' scenario, if that makes sense.
lee12629 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

First of all,i am so sorry to hear about your sister.I think whoever decides to take hormone replacement should have an annual exam and mamography.That way should this happen it should be a low grade and treatable.I have read so much on this topic.I tend to think that the low dose cream,vagifem etc is much safer then the pill.i do also think if we dont treat it that we will continue to get worse symptoms.Guess the question is,how long is safe enough to wait befre symptoms get possibly out of control..Will it keep getting worse thats the question that confuses us enough to not take it.
chris00938 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

Something that just went through my mind, Beverly. On the vagifem site it says not to use the product for longer than necessary, so if you start these hormone treatments before you actually need them, does it prolong the time you're on them? Or maybe it doesn't work like that? By starting them earlier, does it mean you use them less? I don't know the answer to that.
beverly52803 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

I think we have the same attitude towards this, but your options are apparently more limited by your history. As I've said, if I were suffering and couldn't alleviate it via alternative methods I would go with the Premarin. Also if I were attempting to have a sexual relationship with a man (haven't in a long time) I would be forced to go with the Premarin. Needless to say my circumstances hardly encourage me to get involved with anyone. So I just continue on, hoping my body won't deteriorate further without my being aware of it and going past the tipping point. That's what the doctor was trying to prevent. She feels strongly that the cream is safe and would monitor me to look for any changes. As I'm now away half the year that becomes problematic so I just carry on! Just rejoined the gym today so that will work in my favor healthwise. Am planning to go visit my sister this winter while she's feeling well enough to have company. Tough getting your head around life sometimes, but at our ages this is our reality. Best we can do is handle it with some kind of grace.
BTW have any reasons been given why krill oil would exacerbate vaginal issues? I haven't found anything online. There was a rambling article on potassium which I'm not worried about. If anything it should be beneficial as I tend towards high cholesterol (which doesn't concern me because my 94 year old mother's is off the charts).
lee12629 Sus28

Posted 8 years ago

Funny though,being an oil youd think it would help with the dryness..do you ever take regular fish oil?
beverly52803 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

As I understand it using the Premarin would bring the tissues back to a "healthier" state. If the tissues are allowed to deteriorate further I think the effects of the Premarin would be limited by the degree of deterioration. I assume I could use the creeam, stop if things improve then resume if deterioration resumed. But that may create a hormone roller coaster ride and I have no fond memories of hormone fluctuations!
lee12629 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

I tryed statins and had awful side affects from them,so i quit
Sus28 lee12629

Posted 8 years ago

Yes I take cod liver oil daily for my joints!
chris00938 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

Ah, so, Beverly, is there a point where if you leave it too long the cream won't help then? Is that what she said? When I first read the link between krill oil and VA issues I thought it must be coincidence, but seeing more people say it, I don't know! I can't IMAGINE how it would affect it but then that doesn't mean to say it doesn't. I wonder if something like cod liver oil would affect eyes and vaginas in the same way as an alternative. There's been a lot about cholesterol not being the cause of heart attacks, hasn't there? Ah, Just seen Lee's post below as I'm typing and she's asked about regular fish oil too. Anyone else take it in any form and if so are they on the better side of VA or having more difficulties? Ah, also seen your post Beverly about the use of Premarin before things get too bad! Mm that does make a difference then. I'd thought if you put it off until things got bad, then it would miraculously put it right, but obviously not (although having said that the vagifem never worked for me anyway - with the triiple dose for 16 months my GP was still telling me the skin was thin but I had a worse and worse discharge, the higher the dose went, to go with it!)
chris00938 lee12629

Posted 8 years ago

I was on statins for years, not realising it was those making me so bad. I thought they'd got my thyroid dose wrong! I got to the point where it was a struggle to get off the sofa, I gained 4 stone, was SO tired all the time, was diagnosed with all sorts of things including muscle weakness until I got sent to the thyroid specialist who picked it up in two seconds flat and took me off the statins. I never quite recovered but did lose the 4 stone and gain some muscle tone back.
lee12629 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

I had a terrible time.i must have had 15 side affects.I had muscle weakness so bad i could barely lift my purse.my feet burned,tingles and numbness in my arms etc took me 2 years to feel normal again.
chris00938 lee12629

Posted 8 years ago

Phew - wonderful things, aren't they! What made it worse was that they later discovered they were of no benefit to the majority of people they'd prescribed them for!
lee12629 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

Yup i won't touch them again.Was one of the worst experiances of my life.
chris00938 lee12629

Posted 8 years ago

Almost one of my worst experiences too. I was given them for a condition I'd been told I'd got but they then found out it wasn't that at all LOL!
lee12629 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

Unbelievable isnt it how incompetent some doctors are and we pay them a fortune ...
beverly52803 lee12629

Posted 8 years ago

Hope all you ladies have learned to not take ANY drug before researching it. My doctor wanted to put me on statins years back, but I was already aware of the side effects because of the job I had at the time. Worked with developmentally delayed adults and watched as one of the men completely deteriorated before our eyes. I insisted on accomoanying him to his next dr's appointment and questioned the doctor on statins being the cause. He told me it was better than the alternative! That man is now wheelchair bound.
There are plenty of natural alternatives to lower cholesterol. Do not support big pharma in it's attempts to rule your body & the world. There have been studies that said statins were beneficial to MEN who had had cardiac incidents...not WOMEN. Due diligence ladies...and spread the word!
beverly52803 lee12629

Posted 8 years ago

there are sites that let you rate them. have stumbled across some. found one on a dermatologist that I wish I had read before my appointment!
beverly52803 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

"The percentage of (American) adults aged 40 and older taking drugs that combat high cholesterol rose from 20 percent to 28 percent between 2003 and 2012, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Moreover, the use of statins increased from 18 percent to 26 percent, making them most commonly used cholesterol-lowering drugs. By 2011-12, 93 percent of adults using a cholesterol-lowering medication used a statin."
They even want to put children on them! Can you imagine??
beverly52803 lee12629

Posted 8 years ago

Did you not make the connection to the problems and the drug? How long to you take them?
beverly52803 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

Do you not take essential fatty acids? I think pretty much everyone who thinks supplements are worth taking include them. I take an "afer 50 for her" multi, the EFA's, calcium, Vit D and have now ordered probiotics and krill. Rather take supplements than any medication if I can avoid them. I do think there is a connection between antibiotic use and ill health due to their killing good bacteria and throwing off the body's natural equilibrium. If you take sensible amounts it can't hurt...other than your purse.
chris00938 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

You are so right. My GP put me on alendronic acid for osteoporosis but thankfully they made me feel so ill that I stopped taking them after 5 weeks but discovered that the side effects can be horrendous necrosis of the jaw, increased risk of hip breakage etc.! THEN I got my scan results through and found I didn't even need them!
chris00938 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

Speechless!
chris00938 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

I take imunace that is high in antioxidants, and also take krill, Vit D, magnesium, calcium, selenium, Q10, Vit D, K2 (but that depends on how much Gouda cheese and other things high in it that I eat), and I tend to eat VERY healthily with lots of wild salmon, spinach, other veg and fruit and olives and stuff like that:-) My goodness, I sound as though I should rattle LOL! I started some of these after the cancer and some when I found I'd got osteopenia, and also started exercising much more then too, when we started with buying an exercise bike, then a treadmill and then a cross trainer (But I can't use the cross trainer because of the arthritis in knees - that's a step too far for me, to my frustration!). But I still treat myself once a week and buy cake then:-) I think you're right re the probiotics too - every evening I eat blueberries and raspberries with natural yoghurt.
beverly52803 chris00938

Posted 8 years ago

Yes, I read about those problems also. Took Fosomax till the density improved then took myself off. I seem to be maintaining good enough density now though it's been years.
chris00938 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

That's good news:-)
lee12629 beverly52803

Posted 8 years ago

I agree and didnt want to take it.He scared me into it.My symptoms showed up a year later He had me thinking i had peripheral neuropathy.I was a basket case..scared,depressed etc.I took myself off them after many doc apts with nuerologists etc.I started feeling better about 2 months after i quit.Doctor pretty much thought i was crazy for the list of stmptims i gave him and my blameing the statins.As I said earlier took me a good 2 years to be me again.i could barely lift my purse,pushing a grocery cart or vaccume,no way..tingles,wierd sensations etc.i now refuse to take them again.Only thing I can do is to eat as healthy as possible I felt like i was 90.

Well i havnt tryed using the coconut oil yet..have you used it before?

Sus28

Mornin Lee. Yes on the outer lips of my vagina for moisture. Can be a bit greasy but it's good.

Also to clean off eye make up.

coconut oil has so many uses.

google it and see

lee12629 Sus28

Posted 8 years ago

I get so dry,tonight my underwear felt like sandpaper.anyway i take it its supposed to melt once its on the skin and this time it didnt for you?i have a jar of organic coconut oil waiting to be tryed here..tonight i tryed vit e..later hydro 1 percent..then resorted to vaseline.Problem with all of them is underwear clings to the greasy stuff.Thats not too comfortable either.

chris00938 Sus28

I had exactly the same problem that I couldn't get mine out of the pot! I really pulled the skin under the fingernails trying to get it out! So then I left it in a warm place and it went totally runny, so not so easy to get up there, but what I'm going to do this morning is break it up, IN the pot, to smaller pieces, with a knife or something, and then push those pieces together and they'll melt up there. Hoping that will solve it LOL! This wasn't a problem I had foreseen LOL!

nancyo Sus28

I put it in the micro but test it first, don't want to burn.... it has been great for me and I thank all of you for telling me about it. Ordered some D Mannose and awaiting its arrival

Sus28 nancyo

Posted 8 years ago

Great

Not a coconut oil,day!

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