Sjogrens /Lupus ? I'm a male age 50
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Hello,
This all started February 15 2014, I stopped taking prosom which is a benzodiazepine. I had the typical withdrawals symptoms ( I thiught) and not new to me as I have been in out of others with no major withdrawals other than maybe upset stomach and headache.
What happen this time was episodes of what I described at that moment as depersonalization , cold sweats chills and other issues. Went to the ER and was dismissed as having withdrawals.
Well, long story short this has continued every month and I now call this my man period. It's really debilitating , and I can predict when the episodes are coming . Long story short was tested for lupus 3 times and 1 was positive , sjogrens consistently positive. The rheumatologist in my opinion is hesitant to diagnose sjogrens, he says I don't have the dry eyes or mouth not extreme, And he says that's what's sjogrens is. This is what I have every month :Pre episodes- A few days before :
Dry skin- Mostly and more noticeable in finger tips and foot
Pain in left foot left hands ( Mostly) and fire foot in the left.
Dry mouth
General Malaise
Episodes: They last 1 minute max and they can happen every 30 minutes as day progresses they fade.
It always peak at around noon. Longest episodes 5 days that was at the beginning but is usually one day or 2 Happens every month since Feb 2014!
Small rash on extremities Usually arms and last a day.
Tingling sensation in tongue and minty feeling in half of the tongue.
Sorry for the lengthy post but I'm desperate and I'm starting to think that I'm loosing my mind.
Thanks for reading !
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lily65668 Roadcan
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Depersonalisation and cold sweats definitely sounds like benzo withdrawal. You mention having been on other benzos before Prosom, and I'm wondering how long you were on them altogether. Benzo withdrawal is a terrible thing, and can go on for a very long time indeed, especially if you were on them for a long period.
Maybe others in this forum will have had identical symptoms to yours just from Sjogren's. It is, after all, a syndrome - i.e. a collection of signs and symptoms - and therefore varies greatly from person to person. However, I have to say my money's on a combination of Sjogren's and benzo withdrawal, in which case you might have to be patient for another year or so before seeing improvement.
Roadcan lily65668
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lily65668 Roadcan
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If I were in your situation, I'd ask for a second opinion from another cardiologist.
Roadcan lily65668
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I have an implanted link that monitor my heart 24/7 and during the episodes nothing cardiac was detected.
Thanks!
christine26761 Roadcan
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Roadcan christine26761
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robert93685 Roadcan
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Agree your heart seems OK.
Lupus is a strange condition that can affect any organ including the brain with potential mental issues but the diagnosis usually needs more features than you describe with fever joint pain and skin rashes that last longer than you describe.
So as an eye surgeon with a prevous history in general practice I would be looking to exclude other medical conditions.
e.g. insulinoma or carcinoid syndrome
Your episodes tend to occur around noon. Would that be before lunch? Perhaps you are going hypoglycaemic (low blood sugar). Take 4 jelly babies when you get the symptoms. If instantly cured then low glucose is confirmed. Then you would need further invesigation to see if you have abnormal insulin levels. Your GP /practice nurse should check glucose when you are actually have symptoms.
Another rare condition causing strange symptoms is carcinoid sysndrome.
When you are unwell look in the mirror are you pale or flushed? any problems of palpitations, asthma or diarrhoea? The test for this is a 24-hour urine collection for the serotonin metabolite 5-HIAA (which your GP can organise).
Perhaps nothing will be detected and the conclusion will be lingering benzodiazepine withdrawal but the timing and frequency of repetition is odd and in my opinion justifies a few simple tests.
Roadcan robert93685
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Thanks !
robert93685 Roadcan
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The latter is a rare condition but the initial test is very simple.
If positive then plasma insulin can be measured but that is a complex test for the lab and only done by special arrangement.
Anyway good luck and hopefully your strange symptoms will go away in which case you can stop worrying
Roadcan robert93685
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Yes it was tested during hospital admission every time I had an episode. That was the same day I got the cardiac link implanted as The electrophysiologist wanted to rule out insuline issues.
Thanks!
sally83545 Roadcan
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First let me say it sounds like many of your symptoms are from Sjogrens and the Neuropathy that accompanies it. The tingling the burning foot, if you look up Peripheral Neuropathy you might find an explanation of what you are experiencing that will answer some of your questions. Second you said you recently stopped taking a Benzoid. can I assume this was for anxiety? If so I wonder if some of your symptoms could be caused by not only withdraw but a panic episode. We become very hypervigilant of our body functioning as we move into an anxiety attack we can feel it coming on, it can cause the cold sweats and the feelings of depersonalization. Why did you stop taking the Benzoid if you don't mind me asking? I found reading up on GAD or General Anxiety Disorder was extremely helpful to me. As far as testing positive for SS and not being diagnosed and treated I would say it is time for a second opinion and you are not wrong to seek one. Dry eyes and mouth don't always present initially. The crippling fatigue and joint pain is what had me searching for answers in the beginning. Roadcan I want you to feel better keep searching I know you will find the answers.
Sally
Roadcan sally83545
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Thanks for your kind reply! yes! that burning foot sensation! The benzo I stopped as I wanted to see if I was able to sleep without them and yes I could so I stopped. I used to wok in a very intense corporate environment and sleep was a commodity that I couldn't jeopardized.
I am seeing my GP tomorrow.
Thanks!