UC SURGERY

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Hi

Have got to the stage where I am considering surgery something I said I wouldn't ever do. Am steriod dependant 30mg per day Entyvio ever 8 weeks due my 8th in February Ascol Azathioprine. Will surgery stop me feeling so low all the time as well as stopping bleeding, pain, urgency. Really not sure if mentally I can cope with the pain etc after surgery and dealing with bag etc. Have low self esteem at the best of times also worried about my job as have been told can not have key hole as had previous surgery (spleen removed) so have scar tissue quoting 8/10 weeks before being fit again and looking at pictures on the net it all seems raw. Just so scared of what to choose and so alone.

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    Hi Helena, can sympathise with you completely. I was in a similar situation, I was bleeding for 6 mths, couldn't leave the house, off sick from work, bleeding.....everything they tried just didn't work and I was reluctant to have surgery but then I just got to a point where I thought, enough is enough! I did a lot of research, asked a lot or questions to people that had an ileostomy, I even sat down with the surgeon and stoma nurse before I made my decision! For me it was the emotional factor of how will I deal with it, mentally and logically I knew it was probably the only thing that would save me.

    I am now 9 weeks post opp and I can honestly say I don't know why I didn't do this earlier. I too couldn't have key hole just for the fact that my colon was to swollen and close to perforating, but it went well. The stoma regime at first takes time to get used to but I'm a whizz now! There will be pain after surgery but thats expected, it's more pain from the stitches but your well medicated for that.

    Stop looking at photos on the net, it's not going to make you feel better. Alternatively you can look at bag covers to cover your stoma bag that you can get! 😉

    Your not alone Helana x

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      Thank you for your positive reply. How long were you in hospital for, off work and did you start feeling better also are you off meds!

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      I was probably in hospital for about 6 days, only because I went in on a Thursday and then had it done on a Friday then the weekend where there are no stoma nurses so probably took a little longer. I was up and walking the next day, but that's only because I felt I was able and the pain was being controlled. Only get up and walk if you feel you are able, there's no rush but I think as I tried everyday my recovery went quicker.

      I've been off work since June this year due to urgency and bleeding but am due to go back at the end of this month, it does take a good 8 wks to recover fully and that means no bending or lifting anything.

      First few weeks of getting home was difficult for me as I'm used to being out and about but taking it easy is the best thing you can do to recover quicker. Get some good films and books in, also get people to come and see you.....boredom sets in!

      I think around my 6th or 7th week I felt I was almost back to myself 90%. I'm 9 wks now and I've started to do some exercise, completely off all meds!

      The stoma regime takes some time to get used to, used to take me half an hour at first and I can easily do it in 10 15 mins now (in a rush is probably 10 minutes)

      I guess the only things you have to be careful of is things like; make sure you chew your food properly to avoid getting a blockage, still keep to low fibre, look up some key foods that you need to avoid as some don't digest as well as others (I found a sweetcorn in my bag floating about....lol pretty funny actually! )

      I can even eat spicy food now, that was a big NO NO for me before, it burns in my mouth but then I feel nothing!

      I've yet to try fizzy drinks and certain other foods, but it's all trial and error much like before but this way I'm not running to the bathroom in pain.

      I hope that all helps....anything else just ask.

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    Hi Helena108

    I feel your pain I had a flare while pregnant at 7 months which continued for another 9 months of bleeding running to the toilet up to 20 times per day I tried all the meds and steroids and nothing was working I was so desperate to get better and tried everything the docs said and natural but think the writing was on the wall that surgery will happen it did in sept 2015 I was in hospital for 16 days Day 8 had my large colon removed have got a scar however I have heard better way than keyhole as they can see more of what is damaged .. and yes it's a battle scar of a memory which saved my life on the 15th sept my stoma aka tinker was born as lady I knew had a permanent stoma and said it's your friend not enemy which she was totally right so for me mentally I didn't think I could cope but you will at first it's pretty scary but think no more running to the toilet feeling like death everyday life is 100 times easier with a stoma I promise and like you have been told the recovery process mine was the same by week 6 you will do and be so much better i was petried but if I knew then what I know now I also wouldn't of let it go on for so long please try not to be scared it's just getting your head about of the acceptance of a bag but in the grand scheme of things it's a small price to pay to live your life how you deserve to .. I have had mine for over a year now and been waiting to fall pregnant and just got my wish so new journey for new baby and tinker and then after I will look into the j pouch can you have the reversal ? . X you aren't alone and we are here to support you chin up things will be ok x

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      Thank you for your reply so much to take in and such a big decision to make
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      Anytime it really is a massive desicion as once made there's no turning back but look I hope me and Sheila and all the others that have replied to you have helped and best thing is not to look on the internet come on here and ask us as we are the ones that are living or lived with having a stoma or like yourself maybe going in that direction and of course the doctors anything else don't read my surgeon once said people only post bad stuff never the good 😊 x

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    Hi Helena, UC is certainly a difficult disease to go through. My son is 3 years post illeostomy and fighting fit. He has a long scar but now has a six pack and no disease, drugs or symptoms. He eats anything apart from mushrooms!

    A few things to beware of, don't perforate, it makes life more complicated! He was in hosp on drips as on a massive flare, Infliximab being tried as final resort to save colon. They left him too long and he perforated in 2 places at night and left him in pain so sugery became an emergency. To be avoided as recovery was long as developed peritonitis and internal abcesesses etc. He went home full of pain relief and anti biotics. He was able to walk around and coped well with  the stoma. He was keen to investigate reversal surgery and had a j pouch after 12 months which has been v successful. So they removed the last part of the colon but he retained his anal muscles so he is able to control his output and has no accidents. He also had a mucous fistula formed during ileostomy which was close to his stoma which made the bag difficult to locate sometimes. Some surgeons do this differently I have heard, worth asking about.  He had symptoms from his last part of colon until they removed it during j pouch surgery and had to use suppositories to control blood and mucous. He would sit down and pass some of this. He had a dressing on fistula too. They said at John Radcliffe Hosp oxford where they did his J pouch, World experts smile that he would have last part of colon removed anyway as more likely to get cancer if left.

    He has no regrets at all as has normal pain free life, only a scar to show for his disease. He is so glad to have left the pain and horrid meds behind, esp the side effects, and eats anything and enjoys his food! He had lost 3 stone as v poorly but has regained it all, goes to the gym and swims etc, no qualms about people knowing about the whole journey. The initial surgery is tough but it has the benefit of removing the dangerous part of the disease and controlling the worst part of the symptoms and you become in control. 

    Do be aware that IBD sufferers have 3x more likelihood of developing a blood clot after surgery, ask questions and make sure they monitor risk. Son had this as a complication and has had to have surgery to deal wih it.

    He feels that the surgery to remove his colon was the beginning of his recovery and is positive about it. 

    I wish you luck in your decisions, I have written lots on here as I wanted to find some feedback from people with a stoma and then a j pouch to get advice. We have learnt alot and want to pass on our good outcomes. Let us know how you get on.

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    Hi Helena - I had an Ileostomy 14 months ago having battled UC for 4 years. I was so poorly I'd have signed up for anything at the time. To be honest having surgery was one of the best moves I've ever made. I feel in good shape and have left the drugs behind; steroids, immunosuppressants, Infliximab etc. Okay, I accept having a Stoma isn't ideal and going to the loo is different but I have coped well and can eat just about anything and participate in physical activity as before. It takes a while to recover and build up confidence but unless I confide in people they don't know I've got a Stoma. In many Amy's I've found the surgery liberating.

    Good luck & take care.

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      Ways not Amy's - flithering predictive text.

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    Hi all ive had colitis pretty much non stop for 3 years. Ive tried all kinds of treatments which didnt work. I've been on infliximab (remicade) for about 2 years which i think is gradually wearing off. Im thinking about surgery to end this horrible disease once and for all but im terrified. sad lol my wife keeps telling me to just do it il feel alot better but its easy for her to say as she wont be stuck with a bag for the rest of her life. Im worried about how it will affect our relationship if you know what i mean she seems fine with all this and is really supportive but when the time comes and the bags there she may not feel so sure. I also worry of the increased risk of bowel cancer and the damage all these meds have done to me over the years. Im sick of running to the toilet all the time i never really go out and socialise like i used to because its not worth the hassle the next day or when im out finding a clean private toilet.

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      Hi Jason, can again totally sympathise with what you are going through. At my last attempt with infliximab it didn't go well and I had produced antibodies after forth infusion, so I guess your doing pretty well. They did give me another option of Vedolizumab after but by then I had just had enough and opted for surgery. The team were amazing, the stoma nurse even gave me a dummy stoma and bag to wear to see how it would feel, I met with the surgeon several times to ask questions....it's a big step. I had my surgery last Nov and I am now 11 weeks post opp and I feel great. I actually had a follow up with the surgeon last week and I said to him, if I had known then what I know now I would've done it sooner. It does take some getting used to but you soon adapt to it and for me i empty about 3 times a day. I've switched from changing it in the morning to changing the bag at night therefore letting me sleep the whole night.

      It is a big step and seems like your wife is supportive, maybe see if you can get a dummy stoma and bag and test it out! X

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      Hi Jason - you're situation sounds similar to mine until I had an Iliostomy in October 2015. I'll qualify this by saying Infliximab (my last resort) didn't work for me and I had no alternative. Since the operation I've got my life back and can do anything I could before. It's taken a while to build my up confidence with the Bag but it has never come off, split or leaked in bed although most nights I go to the bathroom once to empty it. Obviously the more you eat the more often you empty the bag. They're easy to change; I do this everyday by taking the Bag off, having a shower without the bag then sticking a new one on. It's simple. I know other change them less often. In terms of my relationship with my Wife nothing has changed but it is important to get your head around. I'm 58 but only been married 3 years, my Wife is amazing. If I was 25 footloose and fancy free it would be more of a struggle. The best thing for me has been abandoning the drugs which made me feel dreadful. My health's pretty good now and I'm getting on with my life. Best wishes and Good Luck.

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      Hi Shal75 - sounds like you're doing well which is terrific. I'm smiling slightly (forgive me) because my routine is also to change at night and I've found a Onesie to be a perfect companion. They're really comfy and I was given another last Christmas. Good to hear how positive you are.

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      Thanks Dadasdad, yes I'm finally doing a lot better. When I think back to how panicked I was about surgery and how I would feel and now I'm thinking what was I worried about!

      The night time routine is so much better now, no getting up in the middle of the night - didn't think I'd get used to that! Onesies eey, I've yet to venture there but I can imagine they must be sooo comfy. Maybe I'll get one...ha.

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      Hi Jason

      I was the same had UC for 11 years and a 9 month flare in 2015 had an illestomy in the September it is and a lot to get your head round I read and listened to everything the docs and my stoma nurses told me and also had the dummy stoma for a few days I knew surgery was going to happen I tried all the meds and everything to help me but nothing was working like Darasdad I'm also drug free which is the best feeling and being able to not have to plan my life round a toilet you will get your life back and as for your wife and feeling the same I doubt much will change I felt like that for ages about my husband not finding me attractive but I promise you will have nothing to worry about put this way she won't ever moan of you passing wind anymore hope I've made you smile and if you need any advice we are all here to support you good luck and keep us posted 👍🙏😉

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