An "inital assessment" home visit without my permission?

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I'm over 18 and have this letter for a home visit that I hadn't heard of before, wasn't asked about etc

I'm really upset and confused, they're not allowed to do this without me consenting are they? I didn't know which topic to put this in but on the letter in says assessment for depression and axienty. I'm pretty sure I'm not depressed....I haven't done anything extreme or anything are they allowed to make an appointment because i still live at home?

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    Who is it that has sent you the letter? Your go surgery? Have you called your GP surgery to find out? I ended up in hospital after a suicide attempt and I had nothing like that inside or outside of hospital. Are you sure they've sent the letter to the right person? Normally they would ask you to come into the surgery, they only make house visits for invalids/people too acutely I'll to come to the surgery. 
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      A mental well-being and access team? It says a referral from the gp but i havent see her, I haven't even met her yet. I don't really go out of the house much but I'm not I'll or disabled in anyway.

      I'm thinking its my mum has been talking to them about me, but I'm not suicidal or anything which she knows. Yeah its got my name on it too

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      Do you not go out of the house much because of anxiety? (I'm the same!) It's possible thT your mum could have arranged it, but it's strange that the GP would have referred you straight on without talking to you. You would have thought that she would have arranged a telephone consultation with you if you were unable/nervous to come in, before she referred you on. (Obviously she wouldn't know if your parents were possibly over exaggerating, not seeing the whole picture without talking to you.) I think your GP is allowed to do this if they're worried for your well being (no matter of your age) but really strange that theyve not spoken to you about mental health issues before, if they have just referred you on, that's a really awful GP!! 
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      It could I suppose, no ones ever said I might have anxiety and I didnt really think i dont go out much because of something like that. But I guess that's what they're thinking because of what she's said.

      Yeah,its the first contact I've even had from the gp. Not got an email, text,call or any other letters before. Its really annoyed and upset me, I'm not an extreme case or anything its making me feel awful, I'm trying to cancel it. It says on the letter I can re arrange it but doesn't say what my rights are or anything about my choices.

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      I know it's addressed to you with your name on it, but I really don't understand how it can be aimed at you under the circumstances. There's no way that a GP would refer you to mental health services without consulting you (not for your permission, but to understand the situation, otherwise she'd have no idea what to tell the mental health services, regardless of whether she'd spoken to a parent or not) Definitely try and call your GP surgery tomorrow to arrange a phone consultation with your GP! The receptionist may even be able to tell you what it's about (she may not though as she's not medically trained) 
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      The letter says the appointments for tomorrow, I only got it yesterday or the day before. I've sent an email today asking could they please cancel it, hopefully they'll get it early tomorrow. Do you know what rules are? If I ask them to cancel it will they listen or think I'm not capable to decide or something? Will they insist on coming another time? It doesnt say anywhere in the letter. I guess she told them what my mum told them? I think she's said to talk to the gp but I've never been contacted personally by the gp

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      Can you ask your mum if she spoke to them in your behalf and what she said? Is she aware that you've received this letter? I've never heard of a home visit from a mental health service, and can't imagine that they'd do it without your knowledge or confirmation that you will be at home at that time.. 
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      Yeah she's told the gp about how I don't go out much and other things but not talked to a mental health service. She knows I got the letter and I said she probably exaggerated for them to send it and we kind of argued about it. I guess if she told them I don't go out much then they assume i would be at home?

      Would they make an appointment for you from what a family member has said? I thought they only did things like that if it was urgent.

      She said she didn't ask for the appointment but the gp must have made it. Thanks for keeping replying btw

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      No, I don't think they'd make an appointment based on just what your mum said. Even if your mum has said that you were in imminent danger from your own actions, or were dangerous to others, the GP would have called you. The people who you've been referred to are probably mental health specialists/therapists, but they won't be doctors. If it was serious, the dr would have had to speak to you urgently. The people coming out would probably only be able to offer you counselling, whereas a dr could give medication/give you acute treatment
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      Does that mean I have to do it? It said it was to assess me for me depression and/or anxiety. I must have some say in if I take part? I mean maybe I do have anxiety (I don't know) but I should be able to make the choice myself.
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    `Firstly your Mother being your "Nearest Relative" is able if concerned about you to request a "GP" for Secondary Services i.e. (Mental Health Services) to be involved in your care or wellbeing - and it's normal practice for them to come out and do an assessment on your prior needs and what you think or feel may be beneficial for you, I would highly recommend taking up their offer - if you do feel you need support, if not - than you are under no obligation to accept any treatment and that will be the end of it - even if they feel you may require treatment - if you will or won't engage we cannot force treatment on you. 

    As this is not a "Mental Health 'Capacity Assessment" for (Sectioning or Detaining) under the "Mental Health Act" unless you are a serious "Danger" to others first and then we have a (Duty of Care to Preserve Life) so if you were seriously Suicidal.

    But to be “Detained or Sectioned” you would need to be conceived as a serious risk to others or yourself first and secondly you would have to lack capacity?  

    Mental Health Capacity:

    To determine incapacity you will need to consider whether the person you're looking after is able to understand the particular issue that they're making a decision about. You need to consider if they have:

    an impairment or disturbance in the functioning of the mind or brain, and

    an inability to make decisions.

    A person is unable to make a decision if they cannot: understand the information relevant to the decision, retain that information, use or weigh that information as part of the process of making the decision, or communicate the decision.

    All the best ....

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      Thanks that's what I was looking for. I guess I over panicked about it, it looks like I cancelled it. I would have cancelled it sooner but there was only a phone number to call on the letter and I don't like talking on the phone to people I don't know (does anyone else have that?).
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      Dear evie,

       I am so sorry that you have been upset by the letter you received, we had the same concerns as parents about two of our sons, one of them had so severe social phobia he was barely functioning, our GP arranged a home assessment, they really are nothing to worry about, he is now on medication and it has made a huge difference to his everyday life, he actually enjoys it again. We have three sons who have problems, they all live at home and we have been in the mental health system for many years 16 to be exact and have never been treated with anything but kindness and utmost respect, in fact we have made many friends.    Please give their help a try, you do not have to do anything you don't want to, but counselling and mild medication can change your life so much.

      You will not be sectioned it is surprising how hard it is to section someone (for your safety)  so don't worry about that.    

      I have been sectioned three times (for an alcohol problem) and it literally saved my life!!!.       Please social phobia can be helped greatly, also every psychiatrist is a qualified doctor who has specialized in psychiatry, they also treat any physical health problems you may have.

      I am sure that your mother was only worried about you, we can't bear to see our children unhappy...... I truly wish you all the best and hope that you're life gets better, please look after yourself.xx

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      Thankyou so much,it was mainly that it was done without my knowledge. I'm so scared right now. I told her that I couldn't see them ( this time at least and that I might make another one) and asked her to call the number to cancel it we had a big argument and i felt so helpless. So i managed to cancel it by email and the person she lives with was so angry and forced me to take a shower (I do shower) but they thought I didnt and forced themselves into my room - I was and am so scared, I'm not mental, suicidal or anything but they think that.

      Its mainly the person she lives with I'm scared of, he seems to control her and make her think I'm worse than I am. Now hes telling her I probably don't eat and stuff and I do!

      I feel like she's controlled by him and I'm scared. It seems the only way is that I might reorganise another one.

      I wish she didntndecide to live with him recently and I wish I had somewhere else to go : ( I know I'm old enough to go somewhere on my own but don't have a job ATM and have no idea what I want to do : (

      I don't know if I do have social phobia, anxiety,depression or anything or am just lost and got bad habits.

      PS the only time I've been to a counsellor or anything was once when I stopped showing an interest in school and ive not been referred to mental health before.

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