Drug withdrawal
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I am 15 weeks P.O. from tkr. I was taking Vicodin from day one. 5-325. I don’t want to take it anymore and am trying to taper off. At first I took 1 every 4 hrs, then 6 then I found I could go for many hours without it. Could I be experiencing withdrawals from doing this? I can’t sleep but that’s nothing new since this God awful surgery. I’m shaky and I’m just not sure. I took Xanax a little while ago and I don’t want to sound like an addict but I also have oxycodone, small dosage in the house. Any suggestions?
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Rcurry17 arlene94040
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arlene94040 Rcurry17
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CHICO_MARX arlene94040
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It's called "titration"...up or down. The whole idea is to decrease (or increase) the level of the drug in your bloodstream to provide a specific level of relief. To titrate down, your case, you can take less of the med or space it out more. Everything depends on the HALF-LIFE of the drug...this is the time it takes for HALF of the med to be flushed from your body. Drugs with longer half-lives can be spaced out more. Unfortunately, Vicodin has only a 3-4 hour half-life so if you wait for 6 hours to take another dose, you're already on the downward slope of effectiveness. When you take another pill, the level of the med goes up again...then down again in another six hours. Kind of like a rollercoaster instead of a steady level of relief. Instead of being calm and relaxed, you may feel more nervous and anxious.
I'm not a doc but I was married to a pharmacist for 25 years and my current wife of 8 years spent 30 years as a psychiatric nurse...lots of knowledge there. So, check with your doc about recommendations for titrating off Vicodin. However, that being said...
You can't just stop the drug. Not a good idea even though from a dose of 5/325, you will probably experience the worst of the withdrawal within a few days...then you start feeling better. Could be tough or easy...we're all different. The other route is titration. Because of the short half-life here, I would ask your doc about maintaining the 4-hour schedule but alternate between a full and a half pill for maybe 4 days or so. Then you would take 1/2 pill every four hours for a few days and then 1/2 pill every 6-8 hours. You will probably be off the Vicodin in a few weeks with little to no adverse side effects. Again, I would check this strategy with your doc but it's very typical to do this with opioids (hydrocodone...Vicodin and Norco, and oxycodone...Percocet) as well as with benzodiazepines (Xanax, Valium, etc.).
So check with the doc for his OK and get off the opioids...all of them. For my TKR, I started out on Percocet 10/500's...took two weeks for me to titrate off them. It was easy for me since I have a high tolerance to opioids so getting off them is always easy...but that's me...not you. Let us know how you make out...
jean04276 CHICO_MARX
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I tried reducing the dose to twice a day, but pain in between made me go back to the previous three tabs. Now l will try your titration suggestion, Chico, and see how it goes. Calm relaxed feelings are good but l fear depending on them to get through the day. With thanks.
Oldfatguy1 arlene94040
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If you are in pain, real pain take what you need. If you are using them as sleeping pills try melatonin 10 mg about an hour before bedtime. Its herbal, non habit forming and works well for many.
Pain meds can be weaned away from by taking small diseases. Know what you are taking and why. Xanax is for anxiety and can be very addictive. My wife is in well advanced stages of Parkinson's disease. Most people associate tremors with PD but in her case tremors are minor and hardly noticeable but anxiety and depression are absolutely horrendous.as a matter of fact, we were 1500 miles from home ready to catch an early morning flight when she woke me at 1 a.m. in a wringing wet sweat and could hardly move her body. Had her transported to a wonderful teaching med center in the San Francisco are and had her checked for stroke or heart. Took an extra 3 days t o get her on the plane. After several weeks of hospitalization and a trip to mayo clinic for ac14 day stay they sent her home with inconclusive results and small diseases of Xanax and Zoloft. Several months later she was diagnosed with PD and has been on Xanax ever since. Problem is, age and severity of the disease ( she's now in well advanced stages) and nothing else has worked to stop the anxiety.
Gradually, as tge pain subsides and life resumes to a somewhat normal level you won't need the opiates. Again don't use them just to get some sleep. Talk to your Dr s, primary care docs are often better at pain than surgeons. Let them workout a proper cocktail to help you cover pain, sleep and continued healing from the surgery.
j68551 arlene94040
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ellen1920 arlene94040
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I had TKR 12 weeks ago. My knee is doing well, but it has knocked my back out and is very painful. I have been on Oxycontin for 12 weeks now one 10mg in morning and 10 at night. I am terrified I will be dependent on it. The doctor said because the dose is small then it is highly unlikely. I need pain relief - what can I do?
CHICO_MARX ellen1920
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First...you will be on the opioids for a very short time. Chances of "addiction" are virtually non-existent.
Second... Oxycontin is pure oxycodone. Try switching to Percocet which is oxycodone plus acetaminophen...or just add some (it's generic Tylenol) to your oxy dose. Talk to your doc first.
Some people need the opioids longer than others. Don't get alarmed. You should talk to the doc about titrating off the Oxycontin and more onto the Tylenol by adding Tramadol (a lower-level opioid). It's the typical transitional med from the heavy-duty painkillers. That might be a good path for you. Ask your doc.
ellen1920 CHICO_MARX
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CHICO_MARX ellen1920
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"This is from a drug interactions checker:
"Using amitriptyline together with oxyCODONE may increase side effects such as dizziness, drowsiness, confusion, and difficulty concentrating. Some people, especially the elderly, may also experience impairment in thinking, judgment, and motor coordination. You should avoid or limit the use of alcohol while being treated with these medications. Also avoid activities requiring mental alertness such as driving or operating hazardous machinery until you know how the medications affect you. Talk to your doctor if you have any questions or concerns. It is important to tell your doctor about all other medications you use, including vitamins and herbs. Do not stop using any medications without first talking to your doctor."
Also...
"Do not use amitriptyline if you have used an MAO inhibitor in the past 14 days, such as isocarboxazid, linezolid, methylene blue injection, phenelzine, rasagiline, selegiline, or tranylcypromine."
ALWAYS check interactions before combining meds...ALWAYS!!!
Talk to your doc about the best way of getting off the opioids. Don't take anything without his/her OK...