exhaustion

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Please tell me others of you have been so tired it seems that I am ill from something else.  I am tired all day then cannot sleep at night, then don't want to get up and go to work.  While sitting at my desk I just want to get under it and go to sleep at work.

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    Hi mjlizard, 

    I have experienced this among the other peri symptoms. I fall asleep in the car when my husband is driving us somewhere, and right in the middle of him talking to me. I feel so bad and don't want him thinking I am ignoring him. He has been so good to put up me thru all of this. I almost fell asleep at the library yesterday while I was using the computer. How embarrassing. 

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    Yes I have extreme exhaustion too. If I get one thing done a day then I'm on the couch afterwards trying to get some energy back. It is very disruptive from living life. For me peri brought on depression so I think it's part of that along with insomnia.
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    Hi mjlizard, I have the same problem.  I have been taking a small dose of melatonin nightly (3 mg) that helps some but still not sleeping through the night and waking up with awful sadness and panic every morning.  Glad we are here to help each other and I'm sorry you are going through this, I know it is really hard.  Take care.
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      Glad to meet you... I just joined recently as well and have found everyone to be supportive and kind.  Hope you find the forums helpful, too.  Can relate to wanting to crawl under my desk!
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      This forum is a sanctuary

      I found it a 2pm one night when I couldn't sleep and I haven't looked back. Suddenly I just didn't feel alone and discovered that so many other women suffered the same symptoms. 😀

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    Hi mjlizard,

    I really feel for you ladies who have to work. I don't think I would have coped (I was signed off for bi polar disorder) I had mega depression which was thought to be the depressive part of the illness. I don't think it was because HRT has made it so much better when nothing else has worked.

    I still have big sleep issues. I promised to take my daughter birthday shopping today, I did it with no sleep at all last night, walked round like a zombie all day and know from experience that it will make no difference to my sleep tonight and that I will likely be here reading posts at 430am.

    I had it so bad in the past after 3 nights of zero sleep I'm a danger to myself and can't drive etc. As a last resort then I have to take Tamazepam.

    Yes and feel like you're just coming down with or just getting over the flu all the time and the more tired you are the worse you feel.

    For some bizarre reason sleep in the daytime comes easier and these days I can do that sometimes, but when it started in early peri I had to keep going with a daughter to get to school, house work shopping. I could never manage a cat nap for an hour, usually being unable to get to sleep and occasionally falling asleep and not waking until 8 or 9 at night with a hungry and angry family to deal with.

    I'm hoping my post doesn't depress you, the point I was going to make is, I feel if someone had wondered in the early days if my problems could have been peri related and tried me on HRT back then I think I would have fared much better than I did.

    Also really interesting and exciting for me is the fact that the first 8 nights on estrogen gel I felt tired at 11 PM was sound asleep by just after midnight and woke with a start at 815 am in exactly the way I always would have before peri began. I just wish that had continued but a few weeks later I went through a phase of falling asleep only to wake at between 3 or 430am this has also not happened since a point in early peri. So I'm hoping that maybe an increase in estrogen when I get round to seeing the doctor to ask (worry because I'd rather stay on minimum dose) could do the trick.

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      Zigangie, 

      I too am waking at 3 or 4am, even sooner sometimes. Once I am up, there is no going back to sleep, no matter how tired I am. This has been going on for months now. Can you tell me a bit more about the estrogen gel? Is it bioidentical gel? How did they tell you to use it? Thanks 

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      Hi Snowbell, Yes it's bio identical. I use oestrogel 2 pumps one on each arm after my bath and Utrogestan pills for the first 12 calendar days of the month. I started bleeding again days 7 or 8 of the Utrogestan until days 14 or 15.

      Mine started odd nights couldn't sleep then a couple of years later waking after a few hours.

      Then complete insomnia at first I just thought I'd use the extra hours for myself quiet things making cakes etc.

      But it soon starts affecting everything you do.

      They gave me all sorts anti depressants anti psychotics, anti histamines cough medicine, always saying this one helps with sleep that one will help.

      I tried (you could give some of these a go because they work for some people) valerian root, magnesium, 5htp multi b vitamins melatonin. I gave up caffeine, tried not to smoke a few hours before bed. Tried cannabis occasionally alcohol (I hate being drunk or drugged but things got very desperate)

      Zopiclone gave me a disgusting metallic taste in my mouth which worsened to almost unbearable by the early hours.

      Diazepam worked but only for 4 hours. Lorazepam the same.

      Temazepam works but I'm now so used to it I have to take twice the dose so they don't like me having it.

      Alcohol worked but I just seemed to need more and more and feared becoming an alcoholic. I don't really like alcohol luckily. Cannabis made me paranoid.

      I had got used to it and asked for HRT because after 2 years period free I was just so hot I had no libido and vaginal dryness so bad it felt like razor blades if I had sex.

      So I was gobsmacked when my depression and anxiety lifted this year I had the best Christmas in 10 years. Also 8 nights of perfect sleep did wonders. Improved libido dryness and being too hot all the time.

      Discussing with my husband if there is any way I can see a meno specialist if my doctor is not happy to try tinkering with dosages. This is easy to do with oestrogel you could use another one or two pumps and still take the same amount of Utrogestan.

      I'm at week 15 on it so still quite early days but I so wish someone had thought of trying me on it years ago when it first started.

      I've had a few other improvements, some but not all aches and pains, nausea and a horrible taste also the constant loo trips, these do come on occasionally but more like early peri they come and it's not long until I feel ok again.

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      I start on estrogen next period. I'm on birth control to even out moods but my last period I went lower down in my depression and was so bad could hardly get out of bed and so going to take HRT, at least the estrogen part instead of placebos. Other choice gyn gave me was to stay on the pill without having a period. That doesn't seem natural to me.

      As for insomnia I'm waking up about 2-3 hours after I fall asleep. Then I take my first Ambien. Then wake up around around 3-4am and take my second Ambien. I hate taking this stuff but I'm non-functional as it is with this severe depression and anxiety. Peri is truly hell.

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      CCinCal, 

      Please keep me updated on how the estrogen is working for you. I need some relief and hoping estrogen may be the answer. The anxiety and depression is absolute hell in itself not counting all of the other horrid symptoms peri is bringing. I hope you get some relief from it. 

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      Hi Tina,

      Some things got a bit better. I had a horrible metallic taste which changed to more of a lemony flavour but still so annoying. I still felt nausea on and off but not as bad as early peri when I felt like morning sickness all the time and I went off foods caffeine alcohol.

      I was able to drink tea again as I had always done but coffee only 2 a day because it started making me so jittery and that didn't help with the anxiety.

      Before peri I didn't know what caffeine jitters was it had never really affected me before even if I drank it all day and I always had it strong and black and almost lived on it at one point.

      My depression well to be honest I think I just got used to feeling like that and the same with anxiety. I didn't realise how uptight I was all the time until it began to lift along with the depression during the first 2 weeks of HRT.

      I was always saying (in my head coz the family were sick of hearing it) Oh I feel so sick/ill/wretched whatever. Then within two weeks on the HRT it was golly I feel so normal.

      I went from having not hot flushes but hot days, after my periods stopped that changed to hot weeks then became hot all the time, just cooking on the inside. I went from a sun worshiper to hating the sun hot days etc. I had lived my life being the first to want the heating on and if we went anywhere I'd always have an extra coat gloves and a blanket in the car just in case.

      Then I was out mid winter without a coat and wondering if I would need to remove my cardigan.

      My lack of libido (I'd say that's an understatement as it became revulsion to sex) and the awful hot all the time were the main reasons for trying HRT.

      I'd felt so yuk for so long and was expecting it to go away once I was post meno (I started the HRT almost 3 years after my last period) I really wanted to do it naturally. I had read you are better off going on it sooner rather than 10 years post so I thought I'd give it a try while I was still within t at window of opportunity.

      I'd tried loads of medications herbs vitamins etc. But I feel happier taking one thing that deals with most of it rather than several different things that, if anything just take the edge off.

      I'm a little nervous but content myself with thinking all women on the pill are taking estrogen and progestins, if I were a male transgender wanting to become more female I would be given HRT at a much higher dose.

      Antidepressants especially ssri's increase your chances of a stroke.

      Bio identical HRT is a works away from the old horse urine types (the ones used in the trials that were stopped)

      Also quality of life has to be considered, these days I don't keep thinking I can't go on line this for the rest of my life.

      This is becoming a long post.

      To answer your question, does it get better? I think for me the shock of suddenly becoming ill all the time and when all results keep coming back as normal, worrying that the doctors are missing some nasty disease, Hoping to feel better next week next month and then next year made peri seem worse, but I just got used to feeling that way, not a lot changed my periods stopped and I thought well that would be one positive thing, with that came the horrible dryness down below a sort of sandy itchy feeling all the time, I still get that but occasionally which is how it started.

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      It's so difficult to know what to do Re: hrt! There has been so many stories as to wether it's just putting off the enviable cos at som point you have to go thru it either at 49 were I am now or x amount of years down the line. Overall I just feel flat!! The joy has went out of life😕 I have no motivation and everything's an effort. I do as you have mentioned have dryness down below that comes and goes.... My worst fear is if I do decide to go on hrt is that il put in weight! I don't mean to be vain but I'm feeling crap about myself enough so think that wud just put me over the edge. Also my son getting married in few months and iv my outfit in so can't afford to put any on. I do want to feel more like myself though. Happy! I take fish oil x 2 1100g per day also seabuckthorn berry oil x1000g also bit b=50 complex x 1 per day + cut D3. It's costing a fortune but what can u do! I do think it's helping but just want joy in my life cos I have so many good things I feel bad about feeling bad!!! Xxx
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      I got a second opinion today and the doctor recommended I take the BC pill all month. So no estrogen replacement. I think it would be so unnatural and am kind of scared about stopping my period. But yesterday, 3 days before I was set to start on placebo/estrogen, I woke up with painful cramps, weepy, zero energy. And I don't want to be like that. First 5 months on pill pms and during period, symptoms were light and I was functionable. But last 2 periods symptoms are coming back strong. I thought BC was supposed to take away symptoms.
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      Hi I'm hoping to take it until I'm older, if I have to go through all that crap again at least no one will be expecting so much of me. As to weight I've just weighed myself I've lost 6 lbs without trying since starting HRT in November, I'm not so into cake and chocolate, in fact gone back to wanting things that are more healthy.

      I always had a chocolate week before my period but after meno was like that all the time.

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