Gallstone - diagnosed with US - but unusual symptoms

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Hi everyone.

I am 49, male from the UK, and have been diagnosed with a min 24mm gallstone - everything else on the US was fine - as were a long list of blood tests.

The symptom I am having is constant pain from the gallbladder area when i either sleep on the fight hand side - or press the area with my fingers.

I am also having some softer than normal bowel movements - have had a FIT test and all ok.

I also have some pain in my lower right abdomen - but only when i bend forwards - ie putting on socks - doc thinks it is musculoskeletal related - although the pain seems related to the gallstone pain in intensity.

I have had a telephone consultation with a specialist - due to Covid-19 - and have been advised to cut out all fat and drink apple cider vinegar - and then reassess in 3 months.

I also have a small hiatus hernia - diagnosed by gastroscopy a couple of years ago, and take 20mg Rapebrazole to control the refliux.

Has anyone had similar symptoms or can offer any advice?

Thanks for your time in reading this.

Jon

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    Hi Jon .... Sorry to hear of your discomfort. As I was saying to someone on here yesterday, I suffered pain for quite a few years before diagnosis; entirely my own fault, as I thought I was getting bouts of indigestion after evening meals. I too had soft bowel movements, and nothing untoward was found - however, when I finally had my gb removed in 2015 it continued, and does to this day - and I have to take immodium; on the day of my op I was told very briefly, almost as a passing comment, I would probably always have to take them. I recognise what you mean when you sleep at night you have to press the area with your fingers; what I did in the end was use a small cushion and put that underneath where the gb is located. Diet is very important ..... you need to keep to as zero fat as you can. I too was advised to take cider apple vinegar, but I was unable to hack it - fortunately I found a new product containing cider apple vinegar in tablet form which I buy from Holland and Barrett.

    Sending you very best wishes

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      Many thanks for taking the time to reply Moonday - the cider apple vinegar is certainly an acquired taste - I have a follow up i a couple of months with the specialist - and hopefully the lock down will have passed, and it can be dealt with. Jon

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    Yes I had 5 stones but my biggest one was said to be 17mm but there were as I said 4 more.

    I dissolved mine with ursodeoxycholic acid which of course avoided an operation.

    Your doctors may not have heard of the dissolution treatment but you might be interested in that way of getting rid of your gall stone.

    It is an approved way of doing it but be prepared for some who say it might not work or it does not work which in my case would be a blatant lie. Some say they've never heard of 'it'.

    It's best to research it and so if you type Ursodeoxycholic acid you will see plenty of info some of which is very positive.

    You will be monitored with a liver function test before and during the course and it may well take 6 months or more to dissolve it.

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    hi Jon,

    Sorry to hear about the pain you are experiencing.

    I too experienced issues with my gallbladder and had several very painful attacks. I agree that keeping to a zero, or extremely low fat diet and taking apple cider tablets is a good way to manage it in the interim. I also found that taking buscopan to be helpful.

    I had my gallbladder removed 8 weeks ago and so far it has been a complete success. I have had no digestive issues post surgery and the recovery went well. I did a great deal of research, reading, and took a wide range of medical advice before having the operation. All of the medical people I sought advice from told me to ensure that my keyhole surgery was performed by a surgeon who has a high frequency rate in the procedure.

    Additionally, I also discussed the possibility of avoiding surgery by taking Ursodeoxycholic acid. I was told by more than one medic, that whilst it can be effective in some people, in many it is not. It has to be taken for up to two years, has side effects, effectiveness depends on the size and composition of stones - the likelihood is that stones could return as the underlying cause of stone formation remains unresolved. I weighed up the pros and cons and decided that, for me, surgery was the way to go . I am glad I made that call as the thought of waiting for up to two years for results, and the constant worry about having an attack was too much to bear. I am now back to living my life again, or will be when lockdown ends!

    There are others who swear by gallbladder flushes, but having researched this in depth I felt it was too risky and far better to have the surgery whilst my symptoms were uncomplicated - I didn't want to risk a flush and getting stones stuck in my bile duct.

    Best of luck.

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