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Awwww Kathy

Typical man rant on and don't think about what they say the least thing upsets us I know that feeling well

Don't be down on yourself I sympathise with the knee pain n getting out of bed in February I was wrapped up in bed all day everyday or just sat in my Dressingown not wanting to be bothered I never ate didn't feel like anything hence I've lost 2 & 1/2 stone I feel better in myself just this excruciating pain in my knees n legs are getting me very down

Hope your feeling better

I've been to my gp and put it to him cud I be menopausal as I had hysterectomy in 1990 n had 1 ovary leftin had bloods done n my oestrogen was in my boots so I've been started on a low dose if HRT been on it a week tomorrow so see how I get on x

i'm so very sorry that the one person who YOU would be there for in sickness and in health would say that!   i worked in a gyne office and this was the chief complaint of women by their husbands (what yours said), and by women about their husbands (what you said) and family.   i'm 52 years old and no one (not the women in my family, not the gynes when i was a younger woman) has ever wanted to talk about menopause.  you know why??  doctors don't ever want to (take the time to) talk about something that isn't happening NOW - which i think is a shame because i would LOVE to have been better prepared; and women because at one point (and still to a degree) it was synonymous with mental illness.  women had to bear with it,  or be cast aside or put into the loony bin.  some choice huh??  

i am single and thank the goddess that i am because i KNOW that my ex would have left me alone in this.  he left me alone in neck pain, surgery and depression that pre and proceeded.  you have to stay strong for YOU and your household.  you can't force him to understand or help you out.  i'm sorry, but that's all the advice i have; that's the reality of it.   oh.... and if you are eating sugary foods, breads, pastas, sodas, and even caffeine, etc... stop!  i really believe that it complicates hormonal change issues.  lots of luck to you and keep talking, ranting whatever.  don't keep it in!

I could not agree more with what Kirsti has said including the alcohol, caffiene and processed carbs......I have stopped drinking alcohol and tea nad coffee and no white carbs and not even that much whole carbs.  I get my carbs from vegetables.  Athough I am now on HRT I think this also helped my health in general.  I would also add sugar to that list...ditch the sugar as much as you can and move...does not have to be full blown exercise but even a bit of walking every day is good for women going through this; or for anyone for that matter.XXX

Massive hugs to you and please, you are not a loser, you are a beautiful strong woman. Men just don't get it! it's a pity that they can't step into our bodies for a while so that they could understand how awful this feels. I sometimes think that there is a part of men that always requires attention and us to run around doing everything for them and when we need to withdraw because we feel ill, they just fall apart and feel abandoned, my husband is 7yrs younger than me and he is acting like a spoilt child because i can't do all that i used to as quick as i did and still expects me to remember and sort all his stuff too, i don't know where we will end up, my kids are grown and independant but i could just walk away at this moment. Stay wonderful sweetheart, hope you are ok and try to keep smiling xxxx

Hi kathy

At times my boyfriend does not understand what is going on with me and he starts arguing about stuff to Yes it hurts when he says hurtful things to me 

OMG this could be me, but i get it from the kids too, rolling eyes, saying the drs phone flashes my name when i ring so they dont answer,but i did find that funny.I tell them they will need sombody one day. Ive been to hospital too all turned out to be nothing,thank god. Now he is feeling rough and when he says anything i do exactley the same to him,roll my eyes and grin,it really winds him up.What goes around comes around. Im post now so hopefully on the up,it does get better.i usualy go to bed early when i have rough days,change my thoughts to somthing else,it does work and now i dont end up in a&e.Good luck hun stay strong and dont let anyone bring you down because it does make you feel worthless,and vunuarable excuse spelling lol xxx

One of the ladies commented, saying 'They (men) don't understand what is happening to us and quite frankly I think it scares them' I am not suprised they don't understand, I don't , and it scares me and I am going through it!

But I have to say that my husband as been a 'star'. He has put up with things no one should, though, being married our contract states for better and for worse, and this is the worst.

However, its not the men, (who actually have good reason not to understand), but women, some who are already in it or past menopause, who seem not to be empathetic ones, which I find terrible. Anyway, Kathy, don't be too annoyed with him... he is only being honest, regardless if we like it or not, it is our hormones, and whilst not our fault, it gives us no excuse either. We will laugh at this one day, ... after we have stopped crying that is!