Need help to choose iol for second eye, choosing in one day from now

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I had cataract surgery a month ago and have a j and J monovision iol set to be plano. My vision is very good at distance though I still have .75 astigmatism. My distance vision is almost 20/20, But I was shocked at the feeling of loss of my near vision. I always was very nearsighted and wore glasses since early childhood. I am 75. I had planned to get the same iol in my second eye, but due to my sense of loss of near vision, my doctor offered mini monovision set at -1,50. I chose that but have read a lot about the possibility that the vision my be -1.75 or greater. I want to drive at night and do not want to lose depth perception. That suggests I should go with plano in the second eye. but I have not yet found suitable reading glasses and I can't even see to put the eyedrops in the eye that has had surgery, except using the other eye that still has usable near vision. I don't know what to choose. I want to be sure of clear vision that is as good as possible, but it appears that this means I will have to sacrifice near vision except with prescription glasses. I plan to wear progressives which I have done for years. But I feel vulnerable and worry how I will function if my glasses are lost or damaged, say in an accident.

What is your experience?

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    You could simulate monovision with contacts and see what you think. Also you can do less monovision than -1.5.

    Whatever you do it comes with tradesoffs. The key is to understand those tradeoffs and choose which is best for you.

    Below is my list of refractive IOL option in order of risk:

    Non Premium Monofocals:

    These are the most common IOLs implanted. They will have the best contrast and the least issues of any lens (unless you consider close vision an issue). They have been around and tested for a long time. A Monofocal lens should provide great distance. In general close vision is reading your cell phone or a book, maybe 33cm-40cm. Intermediate is about 2 feet or so. A perfect example might be the dashboard on your car.

    A monofocal you should get pretty good vision down to about 3' or so (again it depends on many factors). As you get in closer; vision quality drops off rapidly.

    Premium Monofocals:

    LAL – If considering a monofocal I would recommend giving this IOL serious consideration. I have had Top Ophthalmologist highly recommend this lens. Having said that it has been around for a while now, but not as long as the standard monofocal so there is the test of time issue.

    What makes this lens great is no matter what equipment Ophthalmologist use they don’t always hit the refractive mark and in a few cases can be way off by more than 1D. And let’s say you decide to do monovision. You want to hit those marks.

    From what I understand you can adjust the LAL more than once. So you decide on monovision, but not 100% sure how much monovison. So set 1 eye to plano and then try various settings with the 2nd eye to see which one works best for you. I would only consider micro-monovision like -0.75D, but if I had the option to adjust it you could try a different setting and see if you end up with a lack of stereopsis or other problems.

    IQ Vivity and Tecnis Enhance - The newest hottest IOLs on the block. A refractive IOL that provides some EDOF. I think IQ Vivity is around .5D and Eyhance a little less. So not a lot but combined with micro-monovision you should get decent intermediate and some close up vision.

    Vivity can have contrast sensitivity loss.

    I tried mono-vision with contacts and was not a fan. I need good distance vision. That is why I say if doing mono-vison go with micro-monovision (<-0.75D). If you do that with Vivity you will be getting -1.25D of mono-vision, preferable in the non-dominate eye.

    Enyhance from what I read has no CS lost, but you don't gain much EDOF.

    Diffractive IOLs

    These IOL, which include Trifocal and EDOF IOLs, give you improved intermediate and close vision but they all come with tradeoffs (dysphotopsias & Contrast Sensitivity loss). This category is a paper in itself, so I will not go into details unless you are interested in a defractive IOL. I personally have a defractive len in each of my eyes. In the US the main defractive lens currently would be Panoptics, Symfony, and Synergy IOL.

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    I have mini-monovision and like it a lot. My target was to be -1.5 D in my second eye, but some astigmatism issues made it a bit more complicated. I am probably closer to about -1.25 D. I would prefer to be -1.50 and have no astigmatism.

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    I would agree with your surgeon to go for -1.5 D in the second eye. It is enough to give you good reading vision, and not so much that you lose your depth perception. However at night outside of the city it is probably best to have some progressive glasses to wear. I had my second eye done in February and have not had progressives, but I only drive at night in the city where there is lots of lighting. For really small print I have some +1.25 OTC readers around. I may use them once a week or so. I don't bother to take them with me when I leave the house. I have no trouble putting eye drops in my eyes.

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    If your doctor predicts you will have -0.75 D of astigmatism or more after surgery, I would go for a toric lens. You don't need it if you plan to always use progressive glasses as they will correct the residual astigmatism. But, if you want to be eyeglass free it is best to get a toric if you have enough astigmatism to warrant it.

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      Thanks for the quick reply. I have a toric lens in my right eye that had the cataract surgery a month ago. It corrected a lot of the astigmatism which was said to be 2.5. It is now .75. Tonight I went out and drove at night for the first time. I still have the progressive lens in the eye that did not yet have surgery, so I could see a bit, though I had stopped night driving before the surgery because my vision had gotten so bad. The eye with distance vision, plano, seemed quite good and I was comfortable driving. It is in the city so there were lights around. And I plan to get progressive glasses when the second surgery is done.

      I am glad to hear that the -1.5 in one eye works for you. I worry that it will eliminate depth perception and the abililty to see contrast. On the other hand I feel handicapped when I cannot even see my eye to put in eyedrops. It seems prudent to have the ability to function without glasses for basic things like that.

      The second lens will also be toric.

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      freddi,

      I haven't noticed a problem with contrasts. Depth perception seems good, but I had natural monovision before the surgery so it's what I'm used to.

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      I have not noticed any issues with contrast. Both eyes are amazingly bright compared to cataract days. I even had to turn the contrast down on our 4K TV as it seemed to be too much. No issues with depth perception. The -1.5 eye sees quite well out to 8-10 feet, so it works at TV viewing distance. And my monofocal distance eye seems to be able to see reasonably well down to 20" or so. So there is quite an overlap in useable focus distance.

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    Hi freddi23948,

    It's so upsetting to try and decide on a target when you don't know exactly what the outcome will be. I have mini-monovision with 1.25 diopters difference between my eyes (distance is -0.5D, near is -1.75D, also with J&J monofocals.) I too was concerned about losing depth perception, so I asked the doctor to target the second (near) eye at 1.25D offset from the first eye, so that if I ended up more nearsighted with that eye my depth perception would probably still be ok. I don't drive at night, but am able to legally drive without glasses and don't have a problem with depth perception. My preference is to wear glasses to sharpen things up, but in an emergency or if I've misplaced my glasses I'd be safe without them.

    I would be very careful counting on your vision to be good for reading if you end up at -1.5D with your near eye. When I use 1.0 readers to set my distance eye to -1.5, having sharp reading vision doesn't happen within arm's reach. I can make things out closer than that, but it's not what I'd call good reading vision. You might end up with vision that allows you to read at -1.5D, you might not. If you can pop into a drug store with a reading glasses display, you could try on different strength readers on your plano eye to get a rough feel for what your vision might be like with different power IOLs--although your astigmatism in your plano eye may give you a little boost in your reading ability. Another thing to seriously consider is delaying your second surgery/IOL decision until you've had some time to really be sure what you want.

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      Hi Lucy,

      So your doctor aimed for -1.25D in your near eye and you ended up -1.75D? Also can you explain a little more about when you use 1.0 readers to set your distance eye to -1.5D you don't have sharp reading vision? Are you saying 1.0 readers to your distant eye at -0.5D get you to -1.5D? Wouldn't then 2.0 readers get you to -2.5D and allow to read pretty well near in that eye?

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      I am delaying the surgery and I am getting more comfortable with the new distance vision and the loss of my lifelong near vision.

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      I ended up with -.75, not -1.75 and this is my distance eye. I have not been successful with readers yet, but it looks like 2.5 or 3.0 are closer to what I need. Still nothing yet has worked.

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      I think I need 2.5 to read with my plano eye. But the -1.5 will give me a bit more intermediate vision with my other eye, but I would not expect to read. I have delayed the second surgery. If I were doing it over I would elect near vision, but it's too late for that. So I will continue to consider -1.5 or plano for the next eye. I will do that surgery when I am more comfortable with my decision. I can function reasonably well at present.

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    You've got great advice so far. As you plan on wearing progressives after your second surgery then mini-monovision seems like a good option.

    You'll forgo the chance of binocular 20/20 or better distance vision without glasses but gain intermediate and some near vision with mini-monovision.

    I don't think it will help when doing eyedrops though. If you have some readers now you can do a quick test by putting your fingers near where you'd hold the eye drops bottle while wearing the readers. Move the readers up out of the way and then back in place and I suspect that the level of blur will be very similar for anything that close to your eye. It is when I do that quick test. That said, I think you get used to the blur. I wondered if I could do an eye drops after surgery but it turns out to not be a problem and I have both eyes set for distance.

    I wouldn't think that depth perception or contrast will be a problem because you plan on wearing progressives after your second surgery. The progressives will correct your vision.

    If you weren't planning on wearing progressives then you could search Google and read up on Pulfrich effect or Pulfrich phenomenon. There's a pdf titled "Monovision and the Misperception of Motion" that's worth reading for anyone driving with monovision. We believe what we see but our brains can create an illusion so what we "see" might not be accurate so it's good to be aware of that.

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      Actually today, I am finding I am able to do eyedrops. My eyes continue to evolve a little bit.

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      I believe I have 20/20+ "binocular" vision without eyeglasses. I have 20/20+ with my distance eye which is 0.0 D Sphere and -0.5 D cylinder, and vision gets a touch better with both eyes open, even though my close eye is -1.0 D sphere, and -0.75 D cylinder.

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      You would have 20/20+ binocular vision because you already have 20/20+ monnocular vision. Freddi's distance vision is "almost 20/20" in the post-op eye.

      I found an article titled "Should I choose distance vision in both eyes, monovision, EDOFs or multifocals?" by Jack T. Holladay, MD, MSEE, FACS to be very helpful when I was trying to decide between distance vision and monovision.

      Here are a couple of quotes from the piece:

      Equal distance vision in both eyes also has the benefit of binocular summation: Both eyes are better than one. If each eye is 20/20, the patient will have 20/16 binocular acuity (one line better than each eye alone) and 40% (2.3 dB) better binocular contrast sensitivity (CSF), and if each eye is 20/40 at near, the patient will have 20/30 binocular near vision and normal stereopsis, which is nine out of nine circles (40 arc seconds) on the Titmus stereo vision test.

      Traditional monovision of +1.50 D in the nondominant eye provides 20/25 at near, and there is no binocular summation (or inhibition). The binocular performance is equal to the better eye (acuities of 20/20 at distance and 20/25 at near), CSF is the same as monocularly, and three circles of stereopsis are lost (six out of nine, or 80 arc seconds).

      That info along with the info in the pdf titled "Monovision and the Misperception of Motion" helped convinced me that I did not want permanent monovision and I opted for both eyes set for distance.

      I'm typing this using monovision though with a contact lens in one eye so I understand why some choose to have it permanently for the convenience.I think it's a great option for me to have when I want it and can choose different powers if needed. The same applies to someone with monovision. You can undo it with a contact lens also. Getting astigmatism as low as possible should be a primary goal in my opinion because that permits the use of low cost daily disposable lenses.

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      I can just give a sample of one to confirm this. I have 2 diffractive IOLs and I see better distance and close with 2 eyes working together than either eye individually. The brain figures out how to use both images to produce even a better image.

      For distance I am 20/20 in one eye and 20/20 - 2 in the other eye, yet together I hit 20/15 - 2

      Also want to add a great article. Wish there was like a reference library to this forum as every IOL options comes with tradeoffs and important for people to fully understand the tradeoffs and their is no perfect solution that fits everyone.

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      It is in Helio. Just search for the article, Should I choose distance vision in both eyes, monovision, EDOFs or multifocals?" by Jack T. Holladay

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