Not sure I can phrase my problem as a specific question, but help needed.

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I'll get straight to the point. I have been suffering from Vestibular Neuritis for almost a year (for those who are interested, you can look it up), to summarise it, its an inner ear problem which affects your balance and can take years for the brain to compensate for it.

It has multiple side effects, the most common and most problematic one being anxiety. At the start I had too many panic attacks, I couldnt even leave my room. However, by doing things like yoga, meditation etc. I managed to recover a LOT in terms of ANXIETY. Medication didn't help and as my anxiety got under control along with my brain compensating for the lack of balance, I started to feel better, but all symptoms were still there 24/7 to a lesser degree.

One month ago, I relapsed. I assure you, I did nothing different and have no idea why everything came back. As you can imagine my anxiety sky rocketed again. It took me about 2 weeks for the dizziness to calm down as brain compensated for it again. However my anxiety seemed to be there, I tried yoga etc. again ( as it was so successful last time) but it did nothing. I have also noticed for the past 2-3 weeks, my bowels have been very irritated- without going into too much detail, I will just say that the frequency of my toilet visits per day shot up. I assumed (and still assume this was anxiety related) so I continued yoga etc. with not much improvement. I changed my diet to eat only bland, simple food...still not much luck.

My latest problem, and this is the one I need MOST help with. Three days ago, as I was trying to sleep, I started getting palpitations which really scared me- I have never had them before. NOTE: I had EKG, ECHO, Holter done 6 months ago and all was normal, so my heart was fine then and is fine now. This has really made me feel anxious especially because I never had this symptom last year when my anxiety was at a peak.

Along with the palpitations, I also get a feeling of being winded (almost like I have exhaled too much when I breathe out, and I feel like a pit in my throat and stomach). I mostly do NOT feel out of breath. This started happening more when I was lying down and/or after I had just eaten food. But now this is happening at random points, and everytime I get this sensation it makes me jump/ freak out/ get anxious. Its like a 'dropping' sensation, like a forceful exhale...I just don't know how to explain it but I hate it!

Has anyone experienced this? Do you think its anxiety related?- If yes, why has it started to happen all of a sudden? Any other explanations?

Any help at all would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you!

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    Hi there,

    I get palpitations too and have just today gotten completely normal results from a holter monitor. The whole time I was being checked in the hospital, every nurse was telling me about his or her own experience with palpitations! Seems nearly everyone gets them at some point. 

    They are a big big symptom of anxiety. I know a lot of people here get them. They can be just an adrenaline rush or a PVC or PAC. As far as I know, these are all pretty harmless in a normal heart. Obviously not harmless for your mental health, I know this all too well rolleyes They've taken my life away the past four months. I feel so anxious even going outside.

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      Hi, I too have thevery rapid hard palpations, but mine come at night, when I'm laying down, just all of a sudden. I have no idea what causes them. I just try to breeth differnet, or move around to get the heart to have a nurmal beat, which I can usually acomplish, but I don't have panic or anxiet with it. It's must mroe botherson and some concern as I know it must indicate something and since it was getting more often, untill a few weeks ago when it leveled off, but I'd still like to know what causes it.  I too have worn the heart halter and has stress tests, and all my tests show nothing. So I'm inclinded to think that I must be low in some chemical or nutrient....any one have any ideas? 
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      Hi JooneBug,

      I actually had to go to A&E last night because they were so bad and I couldn't sleep and felt horribly anxious and dizzy. Got back at 6 in the morning after they said, it all seemed normal. Had bloods done which have come back okay and also had to go back in to do a makeshift stress test which showed zero ectopic beats/palpitations when my heart rate was up. I was told that this is good.

      I am just not sure why they have appeared all of a sudden sad. As I already suffer from VN, my only time of calm and relief was when I lied down, but lying down is EXACTLY what makes my palpitations worse tenfold!

      I feel constantly fatigued. I have no idea what to do.

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      Hi, I don't know what it is about laying down or standing up that makes palpations more or less. What I can tell  you from being very ill and homebound for 8 years with what ended up being nothing more than gluten intolerance, is that you can't always trust the test results...sometimes they are wrong and sometimes they are just not sensitive enough to pick up what is really happening in your body. That's what happened to me with the gluten intolerance. Every test I took keep saying I had no gluten problems...WRONG...As it all ended up...that was exactly what was wrong. After trusting the Dr.s & specialist and taking all their expensive tests and drugs and doing what they told me, for 5-7 years I finally gave up and started to research on the Internet all on my own. That was years before gluten intolerance became the known source of over 200 auto immune disorders. I searched every day from 2-6 hrs for over 2 years to finally find what was wrong with me and what to do about it. Sometimes all I had to go on was one word that I'd found in some research. I kid you not...that is the way it was...and most likely will be for anyone who is doing their own medical research. Research is a long slow road most of the time, but the pay off is big. So it's worth it to do your own research and if you find something important that may help you, print out the article or research with all the credits and take it to your Dr. and ask if you could try this or that. I did, and I found 1 medicine that put me on the road to much better health. That was over 6 yrs ago. I still have some issues and can't eat any gluten foods, but for the most part I lead a normal life. So don't give up doing your own research. If you don't know how to do your own research, well go to goggle and just put in words that relate to your condition and that will lead you to articles, or web sites or research that may help you...but I do warn anyone who is doing their own research...don't do or take anything on your own, unless you have checked with your Dr (checking with 2 different Dr. is really the best thing to do because 1 Dr. may just poo pah a new idea & a 2nd may be more willing to look at new ideas)., just in case you might be going to try something that may harm you .Also I've found great support in heath related message boards. if you do a goggle search for heart palpitations message board I'm quite sure you'll find many more that may be even more helpful. Remember this, no one, not even 99% of the medical community (unless you are Rockefeller)  has the time or the interest to do the research you will do on your own condition. Lastly, look at your diet. Are you eating or drinking anything that could be bringing on ANY of your symptoms? I'd have to say from what I've learned in  many different disorders or conditions, that diet greatly affects what is happening to you...do not over look this aspect...you may find the answers are completely in your diet....I've found this to be true for my intestines, my kidneys, my heart, my brain, my joints, in short...every part of my body! Do look at this aspect 1st. To be honest, I never would have believed that most of my answers to my health problems was in my diet...until I did the research and tried to add or delete differnt foods...then I found out just how much diet can affect your health. 
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      Hi JanaDell!

      I had bloods done which showed that my folate level was down to 3.5.. quite low and this can cause depression so I began taking folic acid. I noticed that nearly all of my vitamins were on the low side of normal, particularly the folate and B12. I think I will start taking B12 and magnesium with my folic acid. You should get your thyroid checked. I had mine done and it came back fine but they're doing it again to double check. 

      I do think it is linked to my anxiety partly though. I had two during a presentation that I was really nervous about. I had only those two that day. I have exams starting Monday and am more nervous about palpitations than the actual exam... good grief.

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      Hi shishir, 

      have you had your vitamin levels checked? I am low in quite a few that can cause palpitations to happen.

      Also could it be because you are more aware of your heartbeat when lying down? I know that I am super aware of my heart when I lie on my front and often get palpitations as soon as I do lie down. 

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      Hi Joone,

      Can I ask what your age is? I wonder if age has anything to do with this. I'm 23 and never experienced palps before until now. I think they covered most things in my blood test and its all fine. I've been told the palps are harmless physically and its just mental....which is still very annoying and tiring.

      Possible yes for the lying down theory, but once again, its the same thing...never had palps before, so why now? :S

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      I'm going to be 22 in July so we are quite close in age! I've had palpitations since I was about 13ish, which is when my anxiety problems also started. They were never a problem for me though until four months ago when they became really scary.

      Palpitations can be from anxiety so if you are anxious and have ruled out heart problems, then it may well just be that. As an add on, magnesium deficiency often doesn't show in bloods as only 1% of your magnesium is used by blood. I am taking 300 mg of magnesium, just started today. It is meant to be great for palpitations, anxiety, muscle twitches etc. Of course, with your other medical problems, be sure to contact your GP before taking anything.

      Also, I was told that we often feel palpitations laying down because our heart beat slows, leaving more room for extra beats.

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      I turn 24 in July, haha. Yeah I'm putting these palpitations down to anxiety too...but the thing is I have never suffered from anxiety or been an anxious person all my life...until I got VN last year. Since the anytime I feel a weird sensation in my body, my anxiety rockets. I just find it weird that, I've been anxious 11 months (with the worst of it in the first 6-8 months) but the palps have just started now for no reason.

      I actually bought magnesium for that reason too, I only took it twice and well..it has some unpleasant side effects in the 'toilet' area so I stopped, maybe I should give it another go. I don't have any other major medical conditions so I should be okay!

      And yeah, I agree with the lying down thing. Which is why I'm trying to convince myself if I feel them when trying to sleep, that its normal. Its just when it appears when I'm sitting down, my anxiety goes into overdrive again. Do you take or do anything for your anxiety/palps? Or are you used to it by now?

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      No I'm not used to it at all rolleyes I do Integrated Energy Therapy every 4-5 weeks for my anxiety and the magnesium is really for my palps. Luckily it hasn't upset my stomach but I read that if it does, try taking a lower dose smile I start my final uni exams tomorrow and afterwards, may start on an SSRI like sertraline. I cut out most caffeine from my diet, even tea... but I ended up going back on tea because I missed it too much :O 

      When I have a palpitation, this feeling of doom spreads throughe me from head to toe and I get all sweaty and inwardly hysterical. I can be sitting watching tv with my family, have a palpitation and they wont know but inwardly I'll be like 'No no no calm down, it's not going to hurt you, breaaaathe, calm, fluffy clouds, the ocean, puppies...'

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    The "dropping sensation" you feel...is it possible that it's related to low levels of iron? I used to get heart palpitations and almost pass out when I would get up suddenly from the couch...back when I was a young teen...back then I thought it was kinda funny...as I'd grab and walls of the hallway and slowly start to sink to the floor and catch my self just before I passed out...I learned that I had a low iron level and that was the cause and that it was no laughing matter. I'm just glad back then my Dr. figured it out and put me on iron pills...and in no time flat I was fine. If you've not had your blood tested to see what you might be low in, I'd suggest you do that and see if it's something that is chemical related that you could easily fix. Better that than what happened to me a few years ago....I could not walk 25 ' without having to sit down and rest and I had hard pounding palpitations in my heart. Well that ended me up in the ER and when they did my blood work they found out all that was wrong with me was that I was low in electrolytes.....well 3 bags of electrolytes taken intravenously and 4 hrs later and $700. lighter in my wallet...I left the ER feeling fine....I know kept a box of dry electrolytes (Pedialyte for babies) on hand in case I need them. All I have to do is to dump 1 little package into 8oz of water and I'm all set to go and they fit easily into my purse and they weigh next to nothing. Paying $8. for a box of 8 packages of Pedialyte Electrolytes is a whole lot cheaper than an ER visit for $700.! So I have to ask you is it possilbe you have either a low level of iron or that you are low in electrolytes? If you've not been tested recently you might want to get that done. Also, both of these things I had are easy and cheap to fix.
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      Hi JanaDell,

      Please read my response to JooneBug above.

      In addition, my bloods came back okay so that means I have nothing wrong there. BUT, you are the first person I have talked to who also has the 'sudden rush to the head and palpitations' when getting up from the couch/bed. I get that quite a lot, I never used to get it before and even now when I get it, I just feel palpitations in my neck/chest/head and feel a little faint but never to the extent of passing out. How did you over come this problem? I feel like what I have got right now has branched off from the intial suddenly standing up episodes.

      Aside from that, all tests seem to be normal. Do people really live with palpitations on a daily basis? Its so scary and tiresome...I get about 6-8 palpitations when I'm lying down, but much less when I'm walking about. Do you have any idea how and why position affects it?

      Thanks

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    shishir, I've hesitated to reply as my symptoms are no where near as bad as many of the people I read on here. On the other hand I've been very active in doing my own research and making continual adjustments to the vitamins, minerals, and herbs that I take. Also many adjustments on the foods and liquids I eat and drink. Since I'm borderline diabetic and have been for many years, I try to eat several small meals a day and snack every hour to keep my blood sugar level That is something you might try doing. As for my thyroid I'm on thyroid meds and they do help me keep and even temp. Without the thyroid meds I get very cold even on very hot days and I live almost in the desert, so it's in the 90s in the spring, summer and fall and only in the 60s in the coldest of the winter. As for the palpitations, when they happen to me, I immediately move my body around or breath different, anything to change up my heart beat and then quite soon the heart beat goes back to level. Since everyone in my family, on  both sides have died of heart attacks and since relatives closest to me have all had stints put in their hearts, I pay attention to any heart issue, but at the same time, I also realize that if I let myself, I can get myself really worked up and upset and make my heart palpitations worse, so I work at trying to stop the ASAP and consciously work at not allowing my self to get really upset or panicky about it. I have a close friend who had serious panic attack about 15 years ago. She researched what to do for herself and found that in many cases panic attracts come from low levels of GABA. So she started to take GABA when a panic attack came one and it worked for her, so I gave it try too and it worked for me too. That's not to say it will work for everyone. Everyone is different, but it's something to consider. I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean when  you say VN. I know of a few things that could be in the medical area, since my problems have been so wide spread, I'd rather not jump to any conclusions, so please tell me what you mean. As for the almost fainting, getting past that was just a matter of taking the iron pills the Dr. gave me. That's all there was to it. Also have you seen the results to your blood work? Even if your tests were in the normal range, if they were on the low side of normal, you could be very sensitive and feel the effects of that aspect of your blood being on the low side. That happened to me, just 2 years ago. I got back a lab report and it said that I was in stage 3 kidney failure. I called the Dr. and said there's a mistake,  I don't' have any kidney problems. So they checked...and sure enough I did and had had it for 2 yrs, but they didn't tell me because normally there is nothing they can do...so they say...until you are in stage 4 kidney failure. Well that is just baloney! I read up on it and there was something I could...quite eating hi preteen foods....I did that and  I'm now in stage 2, which is much better. So you see there are things you can do and you really have to understand what the tests are saying and quiz your Dr. One of my Dr.s admitted that the tests he had given me for gluten might not be sensitive enough to pick up that I might really have a gluten problem...which is exactly what happened to me. Also you and everyone needs to understand that if you let problems go, they can and often will cascade and cause other issues in your body. Maybe not as serious, but if let go, they can get serious. So everyone, in my estimation, needs to do their own research and to be very vigilant and through and to do ongoing research as new research comes up with new things all the time. You say you get 6-8 palpitations..to be honest...I wish I only had 6-8..mine will sometimes go on for a few min. I know that is not much compared to what others go thru, but non the less, if I'd not read up on it, it would certainly be more scary and that would make it worse. BTW have you tried resting in a recliner? I slept for a few years in my recliner. It was the only place I could be comfortable....that was a number of years ago when I had a lot other other medical problems....like IBS, Gluten Sensitivity, Arthritis, borderline diabetic, horrendous stress, and the list goes on. Now I lead a very quiet life, take a number of vitamins, minerals and herbs each day ( I know what each one is for and why I'm taking it and I still do research and reading on the Internet all the time, to stay up with current research. I also do like listening to Dr. Oz on TV, which I started to do a few months ago and have learned a number of alternative medical things that work for me....for example...for my Acid Reflux, I drink a few table spoons of Dill pickle juice and the acid reflux just disappears almost instantly. For Gallbladder issues, I drink the juice of 1/2 of a fresh squeezed lemon. These things really do work on me and better any any meds I've tred.For stress reduction and pain reduction, I learned self hypnosis about 25 yrs ago and to this day I still use it when my arthritis in my hips starts to give me problems..and it works to bring down the pain level to a manageable point and then I take some anti inflammatorily herbs/ minerals/etc ( MSM & Quercertin). By doing research on your own conditions you will gain a lot of in site as to what may work for your and you will be more in control and that will lower the stress and by lowering the stress you will most likely lower the heart palpitations. Also do be aware that if you are low in certain minerals and / or vitamins that alone can cause heart palpations and / or can also cause higher stress levels and in turn cause high anxiety and eventually panic attracts. I would say from my reading that many (not all, but many if not most) panic attacks could be elevated if not eliminated by just being sure your minerals, amino acids and vitamins levels are correct and by eliminating certain foods and liquids that cause high blood pressure and other like issues. Again, it's in everyone's best interest to do their own research on their own medical issues. There are lots of easy home remedies that will cost next to nothing to take and other therapies that you can do yourself, such as diet, vitamins, herbs, self hypnosis, tapping therapy, relaxation therapy, and meditation therapy, exorcize and yoga. I'm an older woman, but I do all these things and I walk 1/2 a day at a rapid pace and I exorcize 1 hr every day. All these things add up to make you feel better. Yes it was hard to get started, but when I started years ago, I felt the difference within just a week. So for me it's well worth it. I can honestly say, I'm in must better condition that most women my age. Yes I still have some issues and work to keep the older health issues under control, so I still read looking for new answers. I do hope what I've written helps you and others and hopefully inspires you and others to try to read and exorcize to work on your various conditions. Getting better can be done. I didn't start until I was in my late 50's and I'm must better today that I was and I think the same can be true for anyone who is willing to work at it and invest the time to become more knowledgeable about their own body.  
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      Hi Jana,

      VN is vestibular neuritis, an inner ear infection which has left my balance affected and could take a very long time for my brain to compensate for it.

      All my bloods have come back normal and have been told my palps are normal too, its just a matter of getting used to it if it doesnt stop soon. I may try taking multi vitamins just incase.

      I have been exercising, doing yoga, meditation etc etc to tackle my anxiety issues that arose due to VN. But my palps started randomly just a few days ago and considering I had been doing everything as normal for months and months, I don't see why this happened.

      I sometimes take diazepam for anxiety, very rarely though. But I have been told and I have read online that for low heart rates, the palps are much more noticeable, so now I'm scared to take diazepam because it lowers the heart rate. This is quite annoying, cause the one medication I was counting on to lower my anxiety MAY cause palpitations so that sucks.

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