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I have had issues with my knees and shoulders for probably 15 years. My shoulders go stiff and get extremely painful to a point where sometimes one will hurt so much to move it i have to use the other arm to lift the painful arm. They hurt to lay on.
It goes alongside paindul knees where i can barely stand.
I have had physio, xrays and bloods done and they cant find anything, the physio just made it worse. I havent seen a doctor about it for years as i just feel its a waste of time. I feel like the shoulder and knee issues are linked....any ideas?
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paula42080
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Adding that when my knees are painful if i get down n the floor, i struggle to get up but when it is bad i cant even get on the floor, i cant sit or stand unaided
EileenH paula42080
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danie61 paula42080
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EileenH paula42080
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It sounds similar to an autoimmune disorder called polymyalgia rheumatica but you are really far too young if it started in your early 20s, But it could be some form of inflammatory arthritis - and your blood tests don't have to be raised, there are what are called sero-negative forms as well. Have you seen a rheumatologist - a specialist rather than just a primary cary provider as they are often unaware that there are autoimmune disorders that don't show up in the tests they can do. It needs an expert - and even they can get confused.
cc91807 paula42080
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Paula my case was similar with my gp, she told me just shake it off. Finally I told her if I can't move, I can't shakeI went to an orthopedic surgeon, found one bad hip, two bad knees and bursitis in my shoulders. Been three years but after fifteen years of pain, I am making progree.New hip and knee and one more knee to go. Shots in shoulders co trolled the problem.Be insistent, get second opinions. They also tried to pass me off as just fibromilaga. Hang in there, insist for answers. Bless you and wish you the best
CHICO_MARX paula42080
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I know that hips and knees are linked (personal experience) but I've never heard of shoulders and knees.
For the shoulder: If you can lift your arm only so far and then it hurts from there on up, then I would expect an impingement. I've had that on both sides. A bone spur on the acromium "catches" the rotator cuff and digs in. Painful. Sometimes the distance between the acromium and clavicle narrows because of bone spurs and/or arthritis and rub against each other and/or the rotator cuff. Wife had this and caused a full thickness tear of the cuff...just had surgery. If none of this makes sense, then your shoulder could be loaded with arthritis causing any or all of the above situations. Find the best shoulder doc in town...the group that works for your local pro/college sports teams. Find the root cause of the pain.
Knees: You need to find a similar group in town that works on knees. If they eliminate ligaments, tendons or cartilage as the source of the problem, they may find a lot of arthritis or even a bone-on-bone situation. MRI. If there's nothing to "repair", something like SynVisc could help eliminate pain for long periods of time without a TKR. Worked great for me for years.
If they find knothing in the knee, they should do an MRI of the hip WITH contrast. I was ready for a knee op when the doc decided to do one more test...hip MRI. Found of that 30% of my hip bone was necrotic (dead) which led me to a hip replacement. Cured all the hip, leg and knee pain.
Then again, if ALL of this knee and leg pain is still a mystery, go see a neurosurgeon...NOT a neurologist. You could have something in your spine causing all your leg problems. Nerves exiting the spinal column at L3 through S1 control all that possible pain. I had sciatic nerve pain down my leg...all caused by a bone spur crushing the nerve at L4/L5. Simple fix; no pain; no recovery time. In fact, if the shoulder doc finds nothing, I'd see a neurosurgoen for an analysis of your C-spine disks. Something in there could be the source of all your pain.
bpaschke47 CHICO_MARX
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ihavenonickname paula42080
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Several of us can tell you that a total knee replacement is major surgery, comes with major recovery, and ends with major improvements. Maybe it is time for a check up with your GP...some diseases progress overtime and become more obvious to physicians.
Shoulders are a non weight bearing, ball and socket joint....another ball and socket joint is the hip.
That you are unable to abduct the shoulder means you have inflammation...you also mentioned using the other arm to lift your dysfunctional arm...that tells me that the inflammation is in the supraspinatis muscle-tendon. You may also have inflammation in the deltoid muscle-tendon as well.
I have given you straight anatomy. To determine the cause of the inflammation, you need to visit with your physician and have some blood work done.
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