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rezum procedure - was told may get 12-14 shots - does this sound right

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I met with a urolologist in that is on the Rezum list. Very good credentials and reviews. He discussed rezum with me and thought i'd be a candidate based on my records. however he did want to do a cystoscope and a uridynamics.

His nurse mentioned that he has done around 100 rezums.

i asked about R/E and he told me it doesnt happen, which confused me as i know its a minor chance based on the studies. he said he has done prostate twice the size of my 80 with great success. when i asked him how many shots he thought i would have and he told me 12-14. I froze. i have never heard of anyone getting that many. Has anyone else ever received that many or knows of anyone that has had that many?

thanks in advance.

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  • matt63827
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    Posted

    could be...I just had it done. My prostate is 25grams which is not that big. I had 5 shots.
    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 matt63827

      Posted

      Matt hope all goes well.  Please let me know at around if the procedure worked and if you end up with retro so I can add you to the list   Have a good day  Ken
    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 uncklefester

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      This is my own list.  I have been keeping tract of them.  It been about 18 months.  The last one I got was Joe1953.  I should have done it different But I am just doing how many Procedure are done and if they work and if you end up with retro  Have a good day  Ken 
  • kenneth1955
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    That is to many.  There has been some men on here that have had it done and had 10 to 12 injection.Sometimes it does work with that many but there have been men that it has worked and they only had 6 and under and no retro.  I think he is being to aggressive  I have been doing a list for all most 2 years.  We had 37 men that had the Rezum procedure.  21 worked and 16 did not work.  Out of the 37 16 got retro   And out of the 16 that did not work 5 had to have a Turp procedure to clean out the scare tissue. With your prostate being 80 you could have a Urolift.  It is another option and no sexual side effects.  Good luck with whatever you decide  Ken   I would also think about it your doctor told you that it never happens well I think he need to read up on the booklet.  Ever the booklet tell you that retro happens more then is told.   
    • Camster
      Camster kenneth1955

      Posted

      I had talked to a doctor's office who was doing Rezum early on.  His office told me that they were getting 10% retro.  When I called the parent company of Rezum, I got an evasive response in regards to retro.  

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      Posted

      Kenneth,

      Are you saying that 37 men in total you have tracked ? Have any had 12-14 shots ?

    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 changejobs

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      No that is not what I am saying.  We have had men that have had 10 to 12  some worked and some didn't. Most of the men had a average of 6 and under.  There were some that had median lobes.  The doctor did 2 on each side and 1 in the median lobe and they were fine. I feel that 14 shot is a over kill.  It will destroy to much tissue.  Remember when it heals all of that is going to cause scare tissue  Ken    

    • uncklefester
      uncklefester kenneth1955

      Posted

      So have yiou been tracking all procedure outcomes from this site? If so, how is the FLA crowd doing?
    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 Camster

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      Cam  I should have keep tract of how many shots they had but I was more concerned if it worked and if it cause retro.  I have come up with a theory.     When I was looking into Aquablation.  They save the verumontanum ( ejaculatory ducts ).  But they get rid of most of the prostate which destroy the seminal canal so the only ejaculation you get is from what is left of the prostate. Which is about 15%.  No one is keeping tract of the volume in the trails.  Now with Rezum in principal they do the same thing.  They do not touch the Ejaculatory ducts but with putting the injections into the prostate which will destroy the inside of the prostate which can cause scare tissue that can block the seminal canal.  So you end up with the fluid from what is left of the prostate.  Now as the prostate get smaller you will end up with less of a ejaculation and if the prostate get to small you may end up with no ejaculation at all.  That you can see.  It may still be in the shaft of the penis.  I wonder if the procedure does any type of damage to the muscle that pushes the ejaculation forward.  This is just a thought. There was also one guy on here that he said that after 2 weeks he had a ejaculation not has much as before and after a month he had non...... Also at 10 %  They were a couple of guys on here that they talk with the PA in the office and they were told that retro is more they what they are saying in the booklets.  We will never know the truth but every man has the right to pick what he feel is best for him.  Because he is the one that will have to live with the outcome.  Have a great day all and Good Health  Ken      
    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 uncklefester

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      Sorry buddy.  No I did not do that one.  I wish I did.  I do remember that John was the first one done.  That was over a year ago.  There were about 18 that worked pretty good.  I also know that there were a few that they did not work for them.  I think Stan had it done twice.I know the first did not work and the second I don't remember.  The last few that were done did work but there have not been that many lately.  Not to many of us can't afford it.  I do know That Dr. K was finishing his trails and he is suppose to have them out by the end of the year.  I know that FLA it is approved for Cancer by the FDA.  Maybe one day it will be approved for BPH.  Have a good day  Ken    

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      changejobs kenneth1955

      Posted

      Ken,

      14 shots does sound like its overkill, that why it’s important I find people that had that many. I know one of the guys here had 10 from dr mcvary and worked great. But the fact he said 0 get RE also through me. Here’s a dr that says he is one of the most experienced in rezum. Throws me for a loop. I want to email him with further questions. I am going to ask again about re and the number of shots. Does anyone have questions u think I should ask?

    • kenneth1955
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      Yes I do think that is to many.  I think 10 Is over doing it.  I think The other Ken had 10 and it worked out for him  But it would have to see how big the prostate it.  With the Rezume procedure you are trying to make the prostate smaller but I think if you put to much steam inside your are try to kill the whole thing.  There have been men that had under 6 I don't know how big there prostate was but they even had a median lobe and it works well for them.  I don't think you need that many to get it to help.take the pressure of the urethra.  You also have to remember this is going to cause scare tissue and to much scare tissue may cause a problem.  To me it seam he does not care if they patient get retro but that it just work's for them to pee.  But that was not the reason to invent this procedure to many guys still want to keep there ejaculation.  I'm sorry but that type of doctor I would stay a way from  Good luck  Ken   

    • Camster
      Camster kenneth1955

      Posted

      With these newer procedures, it is good to wait to see actual results as it percolates through the medical system.  
    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 Camster

      Posted

      I had the Urolift.  That is the only one I will every have.  No doctor is going to tell me I have to have my prostate out.  I see my Urologist on Wednesday.  I have bladder stones.  He knows how I am.  He will not mention any other procedure.  Just remove the stones.  I hope there small enough that he can take them out when I have the scope on Wednesday  Ken 
    • Camster
      Camster kenneth1955

      Posted

      Is there any connection between the bladder stones and Urolift?
    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 Camster

      Posted

      No the prostate is wide open.  When I was in the hospital in November they through they saw stone's but when my doctor did the scope he missed it.  He said that happens sometimes with the salines going through.  He also said that the stones came from the kidneys.  He thinks the one that is defective is starting to fail and the stones came from there.  I was told that years ago that one day it was going to happen but I have one good one that is all I need.  The bad one is sitting on my bladder and is half the size of the other one.  Never know I had that under I had kidney stones 15 years ago.  And also it is not all ways the prostate that can cause stones.  We will see  Ken

    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 changejobs

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      Good afternoon buddy.      I just found this on one of the sites.  It said   While repeating the Rezum procedure is a option typically repeating the same procedure will not lead to dramatically improved results.   If the Rezum failed once.  It is typically a sign that repeated the procedure will not be better a second time.  Ken    
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