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Hi all ,
Around 4 years ago i hurt my shoulder in work and eventually it evolved into frozen shoulder so after many trips to the doctor and an x ray just to confirm i had no bone spurs causing problems i was booked in to have a cortizone injection.
The 1st injection was put into the front of my shoulder roughly an inch in from my pec muscle , fair play it worked fantastically well i had no pain from around 2 days later and it lasted around 8 months beforeit gradually started to wear off and i could feel the niggling pain returning.
I returned to the doctor and he re-booked another injection , had injection in the same place and again magic no pain and relief for around 7 months , pain gradually started to return again.
Off to the doctors i go again and he says ok good for another one i went to the same doctor and he said he would put the injection into a different position on the side of my shoulder this time . i argued and literally pleaded that it might not work as i have quite large muscle from weights etc and why not put it into the front where we know it works. He wouldn't listen to me and put it into the side of my shoulder.....it didn't work and left me in pain which increased weekly for around 4 months .
I asked for a referral from my GP at this stage for a specialist as i was in agony sleeping i could not get comfy unless shoulder was above my head supported by pillows , after a month i had my appointment with the Nhs specialist.
She performed various tests and movement tests and said i had a problem with my joint next to the collar bone and this time the cortizone would be put in using ultrasound in the royal glamorgan ( hospital )
This was 5 days ago....it hasn;t worked i am in utter agony ...nerve pain down arm ..up neck can't move my arm across my body or vertically straight up higher then my shoulder or anything with my elbow facing out and lifting sheer agony..and feeling preety damn depressed atm to be honest .
Have been taking co -codamols and ibuprofen and am havinf coeine withdrawel headaches as im trying not to take too many but im stuck ina catch 22 ....pain or headaches ughhh.
I rang my consultant today and spoke to her secetary she is on holiday for 2 weeks so i can have an appointment when she returns.....WHAT !!
Why have i paid in over £35000 since i started wrking on national ins for all this rubbish treatment.
I rand Bupa in cardiff , spoke to specialist he said consultancy is £199 and mri is £249 probably same day.....serosuly thinking this is my only answer as im off wrk currently looking like its going to be long term and i have a family mortgage etc...
God it's so damn depressing ...all i want is an Mri and to find out what's wrong...overall this has been ongoing for 4 years.
Thats my rant over time for tablets again as pain is bck and life is looking preety grey again...
good luck all who suffer from shoulder problems on the nhs will update when i get my Mri.
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I cannot have an MRI as I have a neuromodulation in my back so I had a ct scan instead on Friday.
Back to docs this week for a change of Morphine.
I think I thought my op would resolve my shoulder problem not make it worse how wrong was I and the consultant.
Will see what result I get from CT hope it's good.
I am on the same boat as yourself, except I got the MRI. I was told I had a torn tendon and osteophytes, which means over growth of bone to protect the bone joint that is already damaged. Again I have paid into the NHS for the lay 20years only to be told that there is nothing they can apart from physio. I suffered in pain for 6 months, lost sleep and lack of sleep made me more worse. I eventually got muscle relaxants to help with the frozen shoulder and a low doze triptiline tablet 10mgs, which I took for about 4 weeks and that its self
Actually got me over it.. The pain is still there but not as bad as it was.. Try get something to relax the muscle tension for a few weeks and you should notice a difference. NHS is a total fail to all working people of the UK.
I will ask my doc if I can have steriod tabs they help as I've had lower dose before.
I didn;t take any meds or pain relief this morning since i woke as i wanted to see just how bad the pain really is unmasked.....im man enough to admit the nerve pain in my shoulder reduced me to tears when i was bck in the house....
She's given me some amylttryptiline for the nerve pain and off work for another month as i cant see consultant for a minimum of 2 weeks as she's on holiday..
Told her if i wanted an Mri and se said only consultant can book that so have to wait and see if the waiting list is too long it wil be straight to bupa and take out a loan to pay for it...
Chronic pain is no joke and i sympathize with anyone who has it , i realize a lot of people are worse off then me , at least i can medicate withng reason and get some normallity..
Update in a few weeks after iv'e seen the consultant and she's had her nice holiday relaxing
When i went to see Gp on weds i asked for some for the pinched nerve pains i was getting in my bicep and side of neck when i moved my arm ( shoulder ).
I also got the usual co-codamols but a lower strength one and some basic paracetamols as been having headaches of the co-codamols when stopping taking them.
I have had to sleep downstairs as those amyltryptiline tabs are very strong and are literally knocking me out for the night and making me snore ( much love from the wife :P ) but i've set up a comfy double king size duvet and its not uncomfortable at all.
Here's the weird bit....
It's the beginning of day 3 i have taken then for the last 2 nights and slept well , i woke this morning feeling a little groggy as u do from them got up had a wash etc got kids up for school then all of asudden i realized something....i hadn;t had any sharp nerve pain either in my arm or bicep...at first i thought surely they cant have done anything in 2 days ..so i got the kids off to school and did some nice slow yoga stretching exercises in the living room for my arms...up in air / across body / behind back and up nehind neck slowly....
The shoulder itself is still quite sore i'd liken it to someone who hasn't been training for a long time then suddenly gone back to the gym and done a full shoulder work out,,,,similar sort of dull ache pain.....but there's nothing sharp in there ...im a bit freaked out ..all iv;e taken this morning is 1 x 400 ibuprofen and 1 x 500 paracetamol to take edge off as i dont want to ram pills dwn my neck
willy nilly but i actually feel better phsically and mentally.
Am i having a false dawn i keep asking myself and will i wake up tomorrow in agony with it all bck,,if it keeps on at this rate of recovery i wil be truly amazed.
Thank you personally from me for ur suggestion for those ( not from my wife tho lol ) they may actually be something tangible that actually works.
I have had steroid injections loadz before op n afterwards only work for 4 days at a time I think I need steroids.
Waiting for pain clinic to send appointment.
Docs tomoz night shoulder I need stronger meds n patches so will see what he says tomorrow.
I'm glad my advice helped but be warned this won't be the end of it. It will come and go for years to come and you will go through the whole pain, feeling low and meds all over again. Iv been having it for years but my new way is going for a sports massage once a month cost about 30 pound but god it's worth it. I am also looking into oxygen chamber therapy to see if this helps the healing process. I wish you a fast recovery and gd luck.
Medications are not the answer. See this as a prelude the the rest of your life. How do you want to spend it? You must, must take control of getting what you need. And now you need to learn things and get to the doctors who have a clue!! Why would your doctors settle for just getting shot after shot, when you should be seeing the right specialist? It doesn't sound as if you've seen any orthopedic surgeon. Seeing one doesn't mean you are getting surgery. But that's the specialty that has the experts on shoulders. You have to do whatever you need to find the best one as near you as you want. Or, are you willing to travel to get the best? There is nothing more important than health. If your health is bad, what else can be much? Your relationships, work, and family are all negatively affected by your bad health, or pain, or any physical issue. And as time goes by, your life isn't going to get longer by NOT doing anything to reduce your pain, and increase your function. Why weren't you referred to a shoulder orthopedic surgeon a long time ago? Ongoing shoulder pain is not a good thing, to state the obvious. Nothing good is happening to any of the shoulder structures when you have chronic pain. I beg you from across the pond to see a great shoulder orthopedic surgeon soon. You must have them there. But I have not read any post indicating that anyone has gone to one.
Good Luck, Galvanized.
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