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I have been thinking about suicide since upping to 30mg if citalopram from 20mg , its been 8 days but im feeling more and more down and anxious . Ive been through the mental health team before "can you keep youself safe" etc . Wether its my ms or the cit i dont know but life seems pointless . All i hear is it will get better , think of your daughter etc etc
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Sourgirl garyflinn
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garyflinn Sourgirl
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lorraine52317 garyflinn
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it may be worth pulling back the citalopram back to your previous dose of 20mg. Until you get time to discuss your concerns with the increased dose. You ill health seems to have rocketed since upping the dose. I went up to 30mg of mirtazipine a few days back and was so ill. Was laying in bed for those days feeling desperately unwell and downing diazepam to get me through the days. A lovely friend on this forum suggested my increased dose was responsible. I decided to temporarily reduce back down to 15mg until I could speak to my doctor. Day After starting decrease I began to feel so much better again. After speaking with my gp today she confirmed my reaction was that the dose was too high, and confirmed that I should stay on the 15.
Worth a shot Gary rather than suffering so badly. Try and get urgent gp call back to get a medical viewpoint xxx
Sourgirl garyflinn
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angela43016 garyflinn
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david43118 angela43016
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KevB5 garyflinn
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katecogs garyflinn
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My 20 year old son was at this exact point a year ago whilst on Fluoxetine. It was a terrifying and emotional time for him and the family too. He was in a desperate state, and eventually the mental health team had to step in. He pulled through and slowly he began to recover and is now back to his happy normal self once again.
You will hear the same words - 'you WILL get better' - I told my son this time and time again, but when you're in this state you just can't see anything but misery and the dreadful fearful feeling you're going through right now.
It took my son around 8 months before I heard him laugh again - it made me cry.
I would think that the 30mg maybe too high for you at this point then. You're having side effects of a dose increase and this is the medication making you feel this way, and though you can't see a way out, you will. Promise.
If you feel really bad please speak to someone - the Samaritans, the Crisis Team, family ... anyone. My son got into a desperate situation one day and called me and it became a battle to find him.......
Please speak to someone. This feeling, this illness, WILL ease in time. However bad it gets, it will go.
We all understand what you're going through - you're not alone.
K x
beth02382 katecogs
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katecogs beth02382
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So the Citalopram worked for you and then you came off it when you felt well? Why didn't you go back on Cit when you felt unwell again? It's best not to keep switching meds as your body gets confused 😝
I've read that some people have a depletion in different neurotransmitters ie serotonin, dopamine etc and that either SSRI's or SRNI's work better for different people as they work on different ones, depending on which neurotransmitter you're affected by. It might be why some people don't get better taking SSRI's.
5-HTP and l-tyrosine. I always promote these as these have worked for me before. No you must not take 5-HTP with SSRI's as 5-HTP elevates serotonin, but I can't find anything that says you can't take l-tyrosine with your meds, and in fact I take it. It's always best to check with your doctor though.
Going cold turkey isn't a good idea though as you might be very ill. Always check with your doctor too if stopping meds xx.
If starting 5-HTP and l-tyrosine I strongly recommend getting the book "5-HTP The Natural Way to Overcome Depression, Obesity by Michael T Murray" as there's so much information about it and tells you how best to take it. 5-HTP works much quicker and you may start to feel the benefits just after 2 weeks, and there's no nasty side effects (doesn't interfere with sex)! You can also stop this anytime too as there's no withdrawal effects.
I can't find any info about how long to wait before starting 5-HTP, but maybe a good guide would be is when the withdrawal symptoms from SSRI's stop? Again maybe speak to your doctor or even the pharmacist would advise.
Again, I'd really get the book - I found it so interesting.
K xx
beth02382 katecogs
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katecogs beth02382
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When I took 5-HTP I started l-tyrosine at the same time. Apparently l-tyrosine boosts the 5-HTP (the book explains it best). I've never taken just l-tyrosine on its own, but at the moment I take it with Citalopram as I'm only on 5mg Cit as am preparing to come off it later this year.
I took 5-HTP and l-tyrosine for a good year and felt quite well plus I had no side effects whatsoever. I did feel flat to start with but that was probably coming off Cit and my body getting used to it. One thing I did notice though was that I became quite emotional - I think Citalopram dumbs down ones emotions, so when I stopped my emotions came back big time and I found I could cry for England! 😜
I found reading the book was so helpful - especially the part about serotonin, what it does, what happens when we have low levels.
You can also stop 5-HTP and l-tyrosine any time without withdrawing as there's no side effects.
Only take the recommended dose on the bottle though as there is a danger of serotonin syndrome (that's why you can't take it with a prescribed SSRI).
I only restarted Citalopram because of a huge emotional time due to family illness, which I found I needed help with from Cit.
K x
betsy0603 garyflinn
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May I ask why the doctor wanted to up your dose? How long were you on 20 mg?
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