Symfony or not? Can someone help!
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I am 62 years with a more dense cataract in my right eye than the left. I am managing all activities with glasses. No blurriness with prescription glasses. I have had mono vision all my life with very small numbers in both eyes. Since 3 years I have started seeing starbursts while driving at night without glasses and my vision got blurry gradually. My right eye is near sighted and left eye seems to be the dominant eye. I work on computer for 5-6 hours a day. I can read the screen but I am more comfortable with glasses.
I saw many eye doctors and they suggested mono focal or Symfony lens. Recently I found a very good eye surgeon in my area that says he can give me whatever type of lenses I want. He offers mono vision or mini-mono vision as well as all types of multi focal options. He said I have very little astigmatism and do not need correction at this time.
I have blocked a date with him 3 weeks later for mono focal IOLs in both eyes. He will use a technology to measure my power during surgery and can give precise number. However he said with mini mono vision my right eye will read cell phone screen but I will need readers for very small print.
First he is doing my right eye for near vision with mono focal. I am thinking of asking him to do a mix and match for me. Do a perfect near vision for my right eye first. My left eye has distance vision with less dense cataract. Not enough to watch TV or drive without prescription glasses. I may use glasses until my right eye surgery is done. I am wondering if I should stick to mini mono vision with a mono focal in both eyes or get a Symfony lens for my left eye (or right eye?) and mono focal for the other eye. My objective is to get all three zones by combining the abilities of two types of lenses. I believe Symfony lens does not provide very good near vision. Therefore, considering mono focal in one eye. Which eye should I do first?
I read this forum posts and have educated myself on all terminologies but I am not able to communicate that to my doctor or here very well. I am afraid he will think I am trying to tell him how to do his work. Any advice? Thoughts?
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dennis39810 anu1942
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My advice is that any highly regarded surgeon should be experienced & knowledgeable enough to tell you what is best for your optimal outcome. Saying that you should do the weakest eye & then after you see the results consider doing or not doing the stronger eye. I just had a Symfony IOL in a very dense cataract eye & will be waiting to do the other with a slight cataract as needed in the far future.
anu1942 dennis39810
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Jhow21 dennis39810
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dennis39810 Jhow21
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at201 anu1942
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My experience has been somewhat similar to yours. Had a monofocal lens in my left eye set for best vision at about 17 - 20 inches in 1999. That together with a contact lens in the right (dominant) eye worked well for about 17 years. Then had a cataract surgery in my right eye and had the Symfony lens for that eye. Am very happy with my day vision, but don't like seeing the multiple circles around lights at night.
Having said all that, my suggestion will be to go with your surgeon's recommendation and get a monofocal lens for the right set for the best vision at 20 - 26 inches range, the exact value depending on your prescription for the left eye (it will be good to have only about 1.0D to 1.25D difference between the two: a higher difference may cause vision issues with glasses)
When in a few years, you need to have a cataract surgery done in your left dominant eye, you will still have all the options for your left eye. At that time, you can decide between the monofocal lens, a Symfony lens or something better than Symfony (in terms of reduced night vision issues) such as ZEISS AT LARA to pick the best choice at that time.
Jhow21 at201
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at201 Jhow21
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I have always seen the annoying multiple circles around lights at night since the day of my surgery almost 2 years back with no change in their intensity. These are due to the diffraction circles (to provide the extended depth) on the lens itself, which can be seen by the surgeon when looking into your eye.
Since everyone does not complain about it, I assume that different people's eyes may not dilate as much as other's eyes at night or have a lower contrast perception which can make a difference about one's ability to see the circles. For me, it is an annoyance and I can live with it, but really wish that I did not see these multiple circles.
anu1942 at201
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Thanks. I asked my surgeon to do 'min mono vision' and he said I would need readers for fine prints. So I told him that it is fine but I want to be able to read my cell phone comfortably. He said some people hold their cell phone close and some people like to hold it far and read. I told him that far is better. I am not sure if I should measure at home and tell him in inches rather than far and near. You mentioned to set the best vision at 20 - 26 inches range. So does that cover cell phone and computer both? These are the two things I look at all day long.
Night-Hawk anu1942
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Smartphone reading 20" is doable if your arm is long enough. I've tested with my monofocal eye set for distance focus and I need at least +1.25D reading glasses for smartphone reading at that distance. A Symfony IOL should be able to get you that if the power ends up near plano, if you target slightly nearsighted like -0.25D or -0.50D you could get better near vision with still good distance.
at201 anu1942
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Different people feel most comfortable using cell one and computer at slightly different distances. I use both of those at about 18 - 20 inches. You can probably check what distance you typically use those at. Of course, one always makes slight adjustment to that distance, if needed, depending on one's vision.
As I indicated before, the prescription in your left eye should influence your choice for the right eye. For example, assuming that you have negligible cylindrical correction (for astigmatism), if the spherical prescription in your left eye is -0.75D, then my suggestion will be to aim for -2.0D for the right eye (corresponding to the best focus at 20 inches). Similarly, if the left eye is at -1.0D, aim for -2.25D (18 inches) and if the left eye is at -0.5 D, aim for -1.75D (23 inches) for the right eye.
If you can share your current left eye prescription, then I may be able to make you a more specific suggestion.
Sue.An Night-Hawk
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Night-Hawk Sue.An
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I find one eye for reading the smartphone works fine for me, thats how I'm doing it with glasses - my left eye has a progressive lens for distance and near focus and my right eye has a nearly clear lens since the IOL is set for distance focus
I do have a pair of eyeglasses now with progressive lens for both eyes, but I find the one with only the left lens progressive works best most of the time since progressive lens reduces the clear focus width. With one eye non-progressive that gives me a clearer wide focus view overall and for reading its not usually 3D so one eye is ususually enough though with two eyes you can focus on smaller print easier.
Night-Hawk
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So with my eyeglasses pair with left eye a progressive lens and the right eye almost a clear lens, I'm hoping to approximate what I might get with a Symfony IOL in the left eye in the future to to with my monofocal toric in my right eye. Not precisely since the Symfony gives about a 1.5D focus range, and my progressive lens gives 2.25D range, but good enough for smartphone and computer reading anyway.
Sue.An Night-Hawk
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anu1942 at201
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at201 anu1942
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I think that there is no single choice, which is best for everyone. A lot depends on what one's needs and desires and what one is used to.
From what I understand regarding your situation, it is important for you will like to be able to work comfortably on the computer for long time without needing glasses and you don't mind wearing glasses for distance.
Your current eye prescription actually makes it easy to achieve your goal without a significant need to adapt to a new way of day-to-day living.
You should not have any problem, if you get a monofocal lens for your right eye, which set for the best reading at about 18 to 20 inches (-2.0 D to -2.25 D). Your astigmatism is small enough that you should be able to work comfortably on the computer or see the cell phone clearly without any glasses. You may not need any glasses for reading, except for reading fine print. Your two eyes will be working a little closer than they are working right now. You will still need glasses to see well at distance, but you are used to that. You will have some glare at night due to a small cataract in your left eye, but the glare from the right eye will be a lot less.
Thus, you should see improvements in many areas, without taking a chance of introducing new issues.
As I said before, following this plan, when in a few years, you need to have a cataract surgery done in your left dominant eye, you will still have all the options for your left eye. At that time, you can decide between the monofocal lens, a Symfony lens or something better than Symfony (in terms of reduced night vision issues) such as ZEISS AT LARA to pick the best choice at that time.
anu1942 at201
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phyllis31515 anu1942
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jackie74804 phyllis31515
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phyllis31515 jackie74804
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anu1942 at201
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Hi at201. Now that I have got my right eye surgery done I wanted to mention here that your assessment of my situation and prediction on my outcome was accurate. It's only 4 days since my near eye surgery and I am working at my computer without glasses. I can also comfortably use my cellphone and see my car dashboard. I have negative dysphotopsia which I am told may resolve with time. The only reason I need glasses now is to watch TV and of course for driving. So, now I have to decide between all my other choices for the left (dominant) eye. Get cataract surgery done on my left eye for distance or don't do left eye surgery and use a progressive lens in my glasses and no correction for right eye. Will this keep mono vision going without problems? Also, the idea of waiting for a new lens is great. That way if something better than Symfony comes along I will be completely free from needing glasses. I am not sure mix and match works for everyone.
phyllis31515 anu1942
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ANU1942
I just wanted to say that I am completely free of glasses with the SYMFONY lens. I think it is because my doctor is an expert in selecting the correct strength of lenses that I needed.
diana39902 phyllis31515
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You're lucky if you have no adverse effects with night driving as I do with the symfony lenses.