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TKR DRUG WARNING!!!

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CHICO_MARX
CHICO_MARX

It's called Subsys and it's really Fentanyl in disguise!!!!!  100X the power of morphine.  Comes as a spray delivered under the tongue and absorbed immediately.  Has caused over 100 deaths.  If your doc prescribes it, DO NOT TAKE IT!!!

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  • lyn32416
    lyn32416 CHICO_MARX

    Posted

    Many tks Chico for the warning. Will pass on to my sister's friend on hospital op waiting list. x

  • ellen57898
    ellen57898 CHICO_MARX

    Posted

    Thats fentanyl. I was prescribed fentanyl topical patches a couple of years ago. Might even have a few in drawer ( how do I dispose of them). Years ago those patches and lidocaine patches for specific areas were readily prescribed. You would unwrap and they stuck to skin. I am sure that in the world if severe pain, like cancer, there is a place for fentanyl. Certainly even the worst TRK pain would not need such meds. Thanks for starting this discussion.
    • CHICO_MARX
      CHICO_MARX ellen57898

      Posted

      The really scary thing in the article was HOW the company was pushing the drug...and the patients had no idea it was Fentanyl.  Scary...

      You have to check EVERY DRUG your doc prescribes...especially for interactions with other meds you're taking.  Most of them have no idea...only pharmacists do.

    • Cementless
      Cementless ellen57898

      Posted

      Another word of caution about topical pain gels, ex: Voltaren Gel, they can cause kidney failure in cats!!! My internist warned us of that.eek
    • CHICO_MARX
      CHICO_MARX Cementless

      Posted

      Is there any research to indicate that the effect in cats translates to humans?  I've been using Voltaren Gel for many years with no side effects.  I've seen some kidney warnings but no documentation about kidney failure.  However...

      You should stop using it immediately if you develop sneezing, runny or stuffy nose; wheezing or trouble breathing; hives; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat plus any cardiac issues.  VG has a few precautions also, especially some drug interactions.  Check your current meds against it.

      On the good side, it's a fantastic topical anti-inflammatory.  Just do your homework.

    • Cementless
      Cementless CHICO_MARX

      Posted

      You missed the point Chico, if you have cats, use CAUTION with Voltaren gel!
    • terise78
      terise78 Cementless

      Posted

      That's good to know because my cat has a habit of licking me pretty much anywhere. I'd be heartbroken if he got sick because of that.

    • Guest
      Guest Cementless

      Posted

      I missed that too. TOTALLY didnt think of cat licking it off!
    • CHICO_MARX
      CHICO_MARX Cementless

      Posted

      Aaaaahhhhhh.......  Yes...missed that.  Although with me, I use it on my hip (in shorts) and knee (sweats or under the covers).  We have a "cat door" so Bobby usually hangs inside or outside, whatever his pleasure.  Gotta remember that for my wife when she puts some on her shoulder and snuggles the cat.  Gotta wash your hands after application and before touching the cat.  THANK YOU!!!  Great info!!!  

  • Guest
    Guest CHICO_MARX

    Posted

    So fentanyl as a patch is not a bad thing. Iv fentanyl is used in hospitals all the time. BUT under the tongue spray, calle sublingual, can be deadly for many people! They think one squirt good, 2 squirts better....

    It u wonder how fast it works do this test w sugar :

    Have a friend try to push your arm down when u hold it out to ur side, resist all u can. NOW, put a level teaspoon of sugar under ur tongue and repeat resistance.

    So a medication, 100x more potent than morphine, which fentanyl is, can easily be OVERDOSED given under the tongue. Might be drug of choice for terminally but not those of us trying to get up and walking!

    wink
    • CHICO_MARX
      CHICO_MARX Guest

      Posted

      That's why I can't imagine people going home with a squirt bottle full of this stuff!!!!  Dilaudid 2mg IV in the ER for a kidney stone and I'm fine.  That's 7X stronger than morphine.  100 TIMES?  I'll pass...

    • lyn32416
      lyn32416 CHICO_MARX

      Posted

      Yep Dilaudid worked for me. In fact I loved being pain free on it. No worries coming off it. But I sure miss it when my right knee gets hornery. x
    • CHICO_MARX
      CHICO_MARX lyn32416

      Posted

      "...hornery."

      Is that a typo or an actual combination of "horny" and "ornery"?  If it's the latter, I'd love to see a video of that on YouTube...

    • lyn32416
      lyn32416 CHICO_MARX

      Posted

      typo...of course! Sorry to burst your bubble but my Chihuahua is inclined to get, shall we say, hornery on my leg, close to my knee. And she's a female too. Goes to show, you never can tell. See ya when the mud dries. x

    • lyn32416
      lyn32416 Guest

      Posted

      Hi Aunty. Glad you got a giggle or two outta my pathetic typing skills and my frisky Chihuahua. Always good to get a laugh, especially after a TKR. x
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