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Why would rectocele not be repaired

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helen73p
helen73p

Hi ladies just wondering if anyone had a cystocele repair but the rectocele was left , I recently had an anterior repair and when I woke from surgery was told I had minimal rectocele that they left but surely it would've been better to do both at same time rather than have to go through another surgery at some point x

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  • Unicorn53
    Unicorn53 helen73p

    Posted

    I suppose it's down to different surgeons and different NHS trusts,no help to us ladies really but then again we've always been at the bottom of the barrel for everything sad
  • Hijadeonagro
    Hijadeonagro helen73p

    Posted

    Hi Helen I have the same question, I had anterior repair and hysterectomy and now I have a rectocele. The proctologist told me yesterday that a rectocele doesn't appear in 4 months ( I had surgery in November 23), so the rectocele was there before the surgery (no symptoms) but my gyn didn't repair it then. I have to confirm this with my gyn, app next 22nd. My physio explained that when one wall is fixed but not the other one, the weaker wall tend to support all the pressures and that's why the rectocele gets worst in my case. But that's her opinion. I am looking forward to seeing my gyn to ask, there must be a good reason not to touch the rectocele, they are experts and they have their reasons to make decisions I expect they are good reasons!!! Looking forward to reading the other ladies responses!!
  • tilley49386
    tilley49386 helen73p

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    Hi Helen, I think it all depends on the severity of the prolapse and if mesh is needed etc. I actually went is for cystocelle and ended up having rectocelle I too was disappointed they didn't touch fix the cystocelle at the same time but my spec said he it wasn't past stage 1 so he would leave it for now. I had managed to bring my bladder problems under control using kegal exercises and so apart from a bulge into my vagina it wasn't causing me too much concern and he told me with me getting back to the kegal he believed that if I did them as good as before my surgery then the cysocelle wouldn't get worst.  He did mention my cystocelle/ wall collapse can be fixed through key hole surgery if needed in the future so that might also be the case with you.  Hope this helps give you some closure on the subject so you can start thinking positive healing thoughts , stressing hinders healing. Sending you loads of healing wishes xx
    • Jan999
      Jan999 tilley49386

      Posted

      There are only a select few specially trained Urogynaecologists using mesh so the chances of it being used in a woman's operation is fairly slim because of the close monitoring by the Department of Health and the Royal College of Gynaecologists. 
    • phyl_40063
      phyl_40063 tilley49386

      Posted

      That's what I had hoped for this time, my repair to be done via keyhole surgery as recovery time is suppose to be so much quicker, but was told no they can't do a repair via keyhole and would be a vaginal repair. Think it was to do with prolapsed walls and maybe extensive damage done more than 3 years ago to ligaments and tendons when carrying heavy trays of dishes all day.
    • robyn94818
      robyn94818 Jan999

      Posted

      I'm in New Zealand and have everything done through private care having ultracare medical insurance. Our public free system here is very long and drawn out. I had mesh for my cystocoele repair.
    • robyn94818
      robyn94818 Jan999

      Posted

      I think so. But 6mths on now from anterior repair and I'm not convinced all is hunky dory inside. It doesn't look any different just inside than it did before. I also have two stalk like things side by side just inside that I noticed first time I dared to look post-op and before my post-op check. Maybe around 3wk mark. I thought they were something to do with the stitches so thought they might disappear once stitches gone. But nope. AND I completely forgot to ask Urogynae at checkup! They are same flesh as inside there but round stalks! Jeez it's so hard to explain and find the right way of describing them. I seem to feel pretty much constantly irritated in there. I know I should go back to see him but scared of wasting his time. But guess I'm paying well enough for the privilege!!!
    • Jan999
      Jan999 robyn94818

      Posted

      robyn don't ever think you are wasting his time. He's a doctor so he has to be there for you if you're concerned, which obviously you are and as you said you are paying him for the privilege. I can picture what you describe and I'm not really sure what it could be. It obviously needs removing and tidied up hopefully at the same time as repairing your prolapse that is causing problems.
    • robyn94818
      robyn94818 Jan999

      Posted

      I just feel like crying. Tears are running down face as I'm fed up. I just want to be back to normal and achieving great activity daily. Going for 1.5hr walks is amazing now as no urine leaks. I've gone onto Jenny Craig diet for few weeks as was persistently 5kgs over where I want to be after 6mths of not being able to be very active. I just lost 1.6kgs in 1st week. High five to that. Food is yummy and completely hassle free and fun!! So mindset has been to get back to optimum nice and fast which I'm trying really hard to do. So the thought of more surgery and down time is devastating. Husband retired 3yrs ago at 54 so we travel a lot which involved a lot of walking. We do 16hr days often while away. Visited Europe & UK, plus Scotland for 6wks middle last year. About to go again beginning May. Haven't decided where yet. We are going to be in London early Dec. as have tickets to The Royal Variety Performance!! It's a very long way from NZ to UK. 26hrs. So want to be best health possible.
    • Jan999
      Jan999 robyn94818

      Posted

      Oh robyn I do feel for you. I think you've not been treat well at all but you need answers from this Urogynaecologist. 

      You deserve to enjoy your retirement so get this sorted out even if it means seeing another consultant if that's possible. 

      Going to the Royal Variety Performance as well as all your travelling sounds too good to miss 😘

    • phyl_40063
      phyl_40063 robyn94818

      Posted

      Robyn you sound really fit, I too love travel and lots of walking, I also do lots of swimming and cycling which are Low impact and meant to be so good for pelvic floor. It's really hard when you are restricted after being active and as you say further surgery is not something to look forward to!

      I am desperate to reach full recovery and get back to work, so I can begin saving for next holiday!

      Look after yourself

      Phyl xx

    • robyn94818
      robyn94818 phyl_40063

      Posted

      Arh yes Phyl. Gotta make most of life as you don't know what's around the corner. We probably will go to Orlando, Florida for 2wks (LOVE Disneyworld) then we found 14 night cruise that leaves from Fort Lauderdale and goes all around Caribbean. We did 4 night Greek Islands cruise (during our EU explorations) last year & it was fun. We need to escape from our looming winter!
    • robyn94818
      robyn94818 Jan999

      Posted

      Yet another problem is I have an ENT Specialist appt. 26th to get a referral for brain MRI to check on growth of nerve tumour in my brain. Discovered that one by MRI Feb. last year. I'm just good at growing nerve tumours!! Radiology wanted to re-check at 3mths but I decided that a year was better indication of growth rate. I HATE MRI's as get claustraphobia.
    • Jan999
      Jan999 robyn94818

      Posted

      They aren't very pleasant, I did have one a few years ago. But just getting back to your Urogynaecologist, isn't he following you up from your most recent surgery?
    • phyl_40063
      phyl_40063 robyn94818

      Posted

      You exactly how you feel Robyn, it's so depressing and cold in winter months. I not likely to retire until 66/67, so still got 10/11 years to go. Done the med western med cruise 2012, prolapse was pretty bad they gave me a ring that could fit myself which allowed me some mobility, bit of a nuisance coming out all the time. Anyhow looking forward to my 40 wedding anniversary in 2018 would love to do the caribean cruise, or maybe Greek island/ east med one, failing that thing verbs would be nice with daytrioz to lake garda and Venice. But need to get back to work first. But you are right about making most out of life, I'm trying to cram as much as possible in before retirement, never know how able and healthy going to be in long term and don't want to miss out on these kind of experiences.

      Hope all your future travel plans work out for you!

      Phyl xx☺☺☺

    • phyl_40063
      phyl_40063

      Posted

      Sorry nor verbs meant verona!
    • robyn94818
      robyn94818 Jan999

      Posted

      I saw Urogynae at around 6wks post-op and I think he said alls good unless I have a problem. I will bite the bullet and phone for an appointment in the morning. Oh it IS already morning. 1am!! I have been trying to decide whether to just see my GP but Urogynae is the one who did the work inside me so might as well go back there. The 2 round stalk things I thought might have been caused by stitch irritation. He did say mesh was perfectly in place at 6wk appt. Guess thats why no more stress incontinence. Can anterior wall still collapse with mesh in place Matron?
    • robyn94818
      robyn94818 phyl_40063

      Posted

      We have such similar philosophies on life Phyl. We did Venice on last years trip. South Of France. Paris. Etc.
    • Jan999
      Jan999 robyn94818

      Posted

      There is always a slight possibility that the anterior wall could collapse with or without mesh but at this early stage it's is very very unlikely. Because mesh is quite new compared to other procedures no one is quite sure how long the repair will last but probably more than 10 years even longer, who knows.
    • Jan999
      Jan999 robyn94818

      Posted

      We've been to Venice every year for the last 4 years. I never tire of it. Going again in July 
    • phyl_40063
      phyl_40063 robyn94818

      Posted

      Robyn, Paris still on my list, been on corsica as part of cruise but still to do riviera.

      Hubby refused to fly for years, so finally went without him to Portugal with my eldest daughter . I booked the island cruise which included Rome and Naples for our upcoming 30th wedding anniversary, he refused to talk to me for 2 days. Anyhow hasn't looked back done southern Spain , Tenerife, and Majorca a couple of times, so still got a few places on my bucket list including Barcelona! Spent years working and paying as mush as I could into morgage, he would only ever go camping. So glad to have paid morgage of and intend to use the swing there to see skme of the world.

      Phyl xx

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