Why can't I get a diagnosis of Sjorgrens?

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Hi everyone. My opthamologist diagnosed Sjorgrens in 2011. Since then I've become very ill wirh sjorgrens symptoms. I couldn't get to see a rhumatologist until my opthamologist wrote to my gp. When I did see her she kept discharging me each time saying 'they'res nothing in yr bloods'. By this time I'm very weak sevete wreak muscles, 18hrs days of sleeping for months on end. I asked for another rhumatologist and waited another 8 months as they cancelled 4 times before seeing me. When I saw him I wish I'd never set eyes on him. He was really rude. Didn't seem to know much about my medical history and basically said it was all in my head. ... (He shouldst be working as a rhumatologist in my opinion). He said lits of incorrect information to me ie I don't hv any Auto immune diseases . I ve had hypothyroididm for about 6 years now. left crying. I've had punctual plugs put on. Use ointment day and nt on my eyes aswell as hlyo tears constantly. My Schirmer test showed 3mm in one eye and less in the other. My mouth burns. I hv a clam tongue n very dry skin. Lip biopsy showed minor inflammation only. I went privately and she diagnosed me worth Sicca syndrome. Why why why as shes put me on hydroxychloroquine. I'm so isolated, fatigued weak. O simply feel like giving up. Amy thoughts. Thanks for reading smile

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    Sorry to hear your story - sadly this is all too common - it's exactly what has happened to me and I belong to several SS grouos and hear the same story word for word hundreds of times especially in the UK. All rheumatologists should be sacked and replaced with immunologists trained in auto immune diseases generally.

    Hypothyroid (hashimotos) is an auto immune disease and often accompanies SS. There is no such thing as sicca syndrome it is a name used by rheums who refuse to accept SS usually because one is sero negative to the only pathetic tests they have - about 50% of all SS sufferers are sero negative!!! You are not alone there are at least 1/2 million of us in the UK but yes it is isolating as no one other than another sufferer understands and most medics are useless and unempathetic.

    Try being male with SS and being told you can't have it your male - it's an old woman's disease!

    I do know what I'm talking about my quals are BSc biology and Phd medical science and sero neg Sjogrens

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      Hi there, sorry but I never saw I had reply. Oh my, I can't imagine being you worth sjorgrens as in a male. I'll bet you've been told some loony responses. I'm still no further ahead with rhumys or treatment just declining health etc etc. Thanks for yr reply and best of luck and everything worth yr journey of sjorgrens smile

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    hi Candy, my symptons are nothing compared to yours but rheumatlogist told me that burning tongue was not related to SS (I tested positive in blood test). The ENT prescibed a multi vit B complex (B6, B12 etc) as apparently lack of vit B gives a burning mouth (I also have GERD and Barretts ..so not sure what is causin my burning tongue and throat and ear problems) . I took the hydroxychoroquine for 5 months and stopped it coz got fed of taking 6/7 tablets 3x daily(at that stage I had just been diagnosed with Barretts , SS,  Pityriasis Roscea and osteoporosis )  diagnosed . My symptons are starting to return after 6 months absence but dont think it i will resume with the plaquenil.
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    I am also sitting with my hands in my hair with this! The doctors: its Fibro, youre depressed, try exercising. 

    I used to be a trainer, I cried if I had to skip a day of training, I couldnt even sit still long enough to watch a movie, now a walk to the shop or going to the mall is pure torture, nevermind exercising. 

    Blood tests positive for Sjogrens, low score, saliva jaw scan shows that its flowing a bit slow, and I have every type of ache and pain and fatigue and list goes on, neuropathy, gerd, tonsil stones etc. Also found lesions on a brain scan. Tested negative for MS. And the Rheumo says take it easy lets check it again next year?!? So dont worry about the stinging pains in my head, probably nothing, like the lesions and the rest, its all probably nothing and Fibro and depression. I mean come on, I have never been depressed, but it is undertandable that I am now, I cant train, enjoy a night out, everything is just going down hill and I am only 32. 

    Seeing a specialist physician tomorrow, hopefully he can find something or shed some light on this issue. 

    Woooza, thank you for the vent session. Hope you find and answer soon and good luck. 

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      Neuropathy both peripheral and central are common in SS indeed it can mimic MS in some. White lesions in the brain are also not ususual but sadly 99.99% of medics are completely out of date and don't actually know a damn thing about SS - they just think it's dry eyes dry mouth and vagina! If you Google neuropathy and Sjigrens on Google scholar you will find the evidence to shut your doctor up. Also look for Robert Fox the Canadian Sjogrens seminar this year where SS neuropathy was the #1 topic. Buring tongue is linked to SS - it can be caused by neuropathy or by Candida infectios again common in SS due to lack of saliva
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      Thanks dryguy, I will definitely go and check it out. So fedup with doctors!
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      Good luck I hope you very something/someone that makes sense. That stops exercise one reallt ticks me off to. I always worked out my whole life. As it is i don't even cook for myself anymore for many reasons Inc bad exhaustion and floppy Ness of limbs. Good luck

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    I know this is an old post but only just read it. I was so put off by my rheumatologist's offhand attitude, I joined the BSSA here in the UK. I rang them and asked for names of consultants in my area of NW England that they knew specialied in SS. I want to see her privately and then was able to transfer to her NHS list. It was worth it. I have confidence in her even if the dire straits of the NHS means my annual check is six months behind. BUT I am able, should I wish, to go as see her privately again. Don't know if this helps you, but possibly it might

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    First, Candy, I'm sorry you're having such a hard time getting yourself taken seriously.  If your opthamologist tested you and it came back positive, show the report to your general dr.  I'm guessing, though, he/she read the report. 

    I can totally understand how frustrated you are.  I'm still, after 10 yrs or more, dealing with problems.  I mean, I do have a cornea specialist that confirmed me as having Sjogrens and I've had many of the symptoms you've stated.  Can you get another general doctor and start fresh?  That's what I had to do.  My opthamologist said he'd rather I see this one dr he knew and I said, well I live close to one of the top hospitals in the country and they just opened Kelloggs Eye Center and all they do there is research, eye care from a to z.  So, he finally said okay...like it's a choice on his part lol.  Oh, that hydrox you're on is one I  was on when dx'd with sarcoidosis and it was to help with inflammation.  

    Don't give up!  The doctors are just now coming to grips with this disease.  It's been around for years but seemingly they didn't teach that part of the anatomy biggrin  I guess being a member of this site gives us more insight on what we are suffering from therefore, we think the drs should automatically know about it.  Some do but most don't...at least from my experience.  Keep trying to see a new general dr and show them the report from your opth...and perhaps after they contact that dr, they will give you a referral.  Referrals stink!!  

    Anyway, I wish you well and hope you get what you're looking for very soon!

    Thankful,

    Frustrated

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    I do have SS - confirmed. I had mouth ulcers for 18 months and found that tomatoes caused it. Too much acidity. I now know that I cannot take anything hot as in heat, spicy or even too dry (e.g.bread crusts). Sometimes even small crumbs from nuts or rice granules don'tgo down and I can cough so hard that my arms and ribs hurt. The only quick fix is my ventolin inhaler which relaxes the throat muscles. I have Hylo bottles in the kitche, lounge, handbag and in the car. That's because I have a bad habit of waiting too long before applying them so as to relieve the symptoms. That's how I am trining myself to cope. One ray of hope is that SS was a major discussion at a big Rheumatology conference in the UK just recenty. Hopefully it will become more recognised. 

    Try to be pro-active and pat yourself on the back for each achievement, no matter how small. You are not alone.

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