Invasive interaction or wait it out?

I'm so sorry. 

I have type 1 as well as am hesitant on surgery although I am leaning more and more that way as time goes on and my shoulder doesn't. I had cortisone injections which did nothing for me and had a distension done which didn't help either. Like you pt isn't helping much either. I understand your hesitation, but talk to you Doctor. If your blood sugars are in good control you can do more than just pt. 

Thanks so much. Glad to hear it got back to 100%. Ok you've given me some hope. I stopped PT as well and actually started Zumba back up last week, pushing my arm just a little. Then I'm incapacitated and suffering for two days, but what can you do. I've read that many women get fz with menopause but I'm only 44 and about 10 years away from that. As long as I can continue to type I should be able to make it through without getting disabled. im definitely asking for meds this time to help during the more painful days since it sounds like this will be a long period until I cure. So strange that all the scar tissue and adhesions can just resolve to 100% normal when it sounds like most people need surgery to remove it but yours got better on its own. I wonder if they waited if theirs would too?

Yes, frozen shoulder WILL eventually heal without intervention. The problem is it can take many years for some of us. When it finally heals you should regain full ROM, but it won't happen overnight. Also, your shoulder may do a lot of popping and cracking, but it's more annoying than anything else. Really, the only reason I have hope for my right shoulder is because I've been through it with my left. I have spoken to my MD about intervention with both episodes of this thing, and he tells me to "go for it", until I get to the specialist who strongly discourages it. Better to let nature take its course with this condition, until they learn more about it, I believe. Good luck to both of you.

I am also a Diabetic on insulin and I have not heard good things from other Diabetics that have had the surgery. The 6-8 month recovery time and the need to re-do the MUA and surgery..... several times  on  Diabetics. (Dense scar Diabetic tissue I am told.) Not very interested in putting my body through that either.  I am about 8 months or so in my FS and have had cortizone shots, not sure if it helped, maybe a little, but sure has made my blood sugar hard to control. 

I can understand what you are going through. My Ortho said all the Diabetics he has tried to treat, it usually does take about three years, was told that too. I also dropped out of PT, was making it worse (my new Ortho just confirmed, no PT in painful stage). Diabetics are a bit different as this is a Diabetic complication for us, but I have talked to other non-Diabetics on this forum who also listened to their bodies and stopped anything painful as causing worse pain. Basically, this is a nasty medical condition for all of us. Hope you feel better soon.

Hi midonda, It would seem from the statistics that there is litle evidence that any treatment speeds up the time one is exposed to a FS. There are many factors which skew the evidence. The first is that many patients dagnosed with FS dont have that conditon. Also some FS sufferers have the pain for just over a year and ohers for four years. The sufferers of the year duration could be treated with mobilization and exercises or surgery or manipulation or injections at say nine months and be fine. The four year patients would have to wait until say early in the fouth year to get the same results. Unfortunately I suspect they are not ditinguishable from each other Much is made of removing the inflammation from FS but perrhaps it needs to complete an inflamatory cycle in order to heal and

removing it with injections prolongs the condition. I see some sufferers say some doctors are unaware  of the direness of FS. It must be remembered that nutrition exercise and the diagnosis of soft tissue injuries is not high on the syllabus in medical schools. Not only that many medical people do what they did in training for the rest of their careers, as do many other professionals. Personally I have found that I can isolate gliding and rolling movements in the ball and socket joint and thus know when to be more aggresive with treatment.