I felt like a hypochondriac.... No, it's Sarcoidosis

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I've just been diagnosed with sarcoidosis and I have had/have a fair few of the symptoms, and although they're not as bad as what some of you have mentioned, I can relate to what some of you have gone through. I was told it could be lymphoma, Sarcoidosis or TB, which would explain my enlarged lymph nodes in my chest and neck. So In the last couple of weeks I've had a saliva gland scan, chest x-Ray, CT scan, neck biopsy and endoscopy. I have an echo coming up, breathing test and who knows what else.

But I was relieved it was Sarcoidosis and not lymphoma. And I'm now realising the extent of how it can affect the body.

Trying to look on the bright side, I now don't feel like a hypochondriac anymore. Because If I didnt feel sick or nauseous, I simply felt tired. Sometimes I experienced sharp chest pains and I'd also noticed my hair was thinning.....that's been happening over the last two years. Then last year I got a very dry mouth, heart palpitations, joint pain and then lost some weight...and now the itching! But It all makes sense. Anyone else feel the same?

I don't know what stage I'm at yet....still waiting, so does anyone know if it's to do with the symptoms or based on where you have sarcoidosis or large lymph nodes?

thanks!

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  • Posted

    Hi Suffering

    Yes all your symptoms are common to sarcoid. Not sure about the lymph nodes, I have no experience there.

    Yes, everyone thinks you are a hypochondriac because outwardly you appear to have fine health. Inwardly you have multiple issues. Even after your family and friends are advised of your new health statist some will still think you are a hypochondriac because there still is no outward indication of you illness and sarcoid is not a common illness that they have heard about and understand.

    Commonly sarcoid effect one or more organs. I say this because the doctors usually treat your lungs and forget to treat other organs such as liver spleen eyes skin heart etc. In my opinion it effects multiple organs so be on alert for that in your research stage.

    For the itching apply Urederm cream daily. It will not cure the cause of the itch but will stop it being from being itchy.

    Regards

    ​Tangles

    • Posted

      Hi Tangles

      I couldn't believe how many parts of the body it affects, and that there's no way to really pinpoint why it occurs. I was told it could It be anything.

      My friends & family have asked for more info on it as they've not heard of it. I mean, I hadn't either. It's such a shame something so common is not highlighted

      Thanks so much for your advice, especially on the cream. I'll give it a try - anything to soothe. I used to get it behind my knees occasionally, but now it seems to have moved to my sides!

      Thanks

      Suffering

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    Good morning

    I was diagnosed about a year ago. Started with extreme fatigue, then one day my husband said my face looked swollen. By the next day my pituitary glands had tripled in size and stayed that way for 6 weeks.  After a Pet scan and lung biopsy I was diagnosed with sarcoidosis. Following test revealed no harm to organs but I constantly feel short of breath.

    I feel for you. Everyone says I'm lucky that it cured itself but I still don't feel like myself.  AND I am lucky I know, but EVERYONE I talk to blow it off saying it isn't a bad desease as it cures itself.

    I do go in soon to my pulmonary Dr. and am going to discuss the shortness of breath.

    I am so glad to find this forum as they make me feel so grateful as to how lucky I have been and don't make me feel like a hypochondriac . Good luck to you and hang in there!

    • Posted

      Nancy hi

      asks your pulmonary doctor from a full lung function test from a pulmonary lab. It is obvious to me that you have lung function issues. Shortness of breath indicates issues.

      Sarcoid does not always cure itself! Also the condition can be debiliating.

      Be on the alter for other issues that the sarcoid may cause to other organs.

      Some of these issues but not all included

      spleen

      liver

      eyes

      skin

      heart

      regards

      ​Tangles

    • Posted

      Hello nancy61777

      Wow, poor you! Sounds scary. You must be happy that that's not happening anymore. Can't imagine what that would be like.

      I agree with you, it's such a relief to have found this forum. Even your closest family and friends won't really understand.

      I think you should definitely mention the shortness of breath.

      Suffering

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    Hi Sufferin

    Some notes that may help you at this stage...

    Sarcoidosis is a condition where tiny lumps (nodules), known as granulomas, develop at various sites within your body, due to inflammation. It most commonly affects the lungs. However, it can affect almost any part of the body. The exact cause is not known. In many people, sarcoidosis goes away without any treatment. However, in some people, it can become long-standing, and serious, requiring treatment.

    What is sarcoidosis?

    Sarcoidosis is a condition where tiny lumps (nodules), known as granulomas, develop at various sites within your body, due to inflammation. These granulomas are made up of cells involved in inflammation.

    Sarcoidosis most commonly affects the lungs and lymph glands in the chest area (pulmonary sarcoidosis). However, it can affect almost any part of your body, including your eyes, skin, heart, liver, kidneys, salivary glands, muscles, nose, sinuses, brain and nerves. If lots of granulomas form in a part (or organ) of your body, this can start to affect how that part of your body works and functions. So, it is the presence of the granulomas formed in response to inflammation that causes the symptoms of sarcoidosis in the various parts of your body.

    What causes sarcoidosis?

    The exact cause of sarcoidosis is not known. However, it does seem to run in some families so it is likely that some people have a genetic tendency (susceptibility) to develop sarcoidosis. It has been suggested that something such as an infection or another 'agent' found in the environment may trigger sarcoidosis in someone who is genetically susceptible to it. So far, no definite infection or agent acting as this trigger has been identified.

    Who gets sarcoidosis?

    Sarcoidosis is rare. Every year in the UK, around 3,000 people are diagnosed with sarcoidosis for the first time. It is most commonly first diagnosed between the ages of 20 to 40. However, sarcoidosis can affect younger or older people. Sarcoidosis seems to be more common in Scandinavian people as well as African-Americans and African-Caribbeans.

    Which parts of the body are affected in sarcoidosis?

    Sarcoidosis can affect almost any part of your body. It can also affect more than one part of your body at the same time:

    ·         The lungs and the lymph glands in the chest area are most commonly involved in sarcoidosis. They are affected in about 9 in 10 people with sarcoidosis.

    ·         The skin is affected in about 1 in 4 people with sarcoidosis.

    ·         The lymph glands elsewhere in the body are affected in about 1 in 6 people with sarcoidosis.

    ·         The eyes are affected in about 1 in 8 people with sarcoidosis.

    ·         The nerves and nervous system are affected in about 1 in 20 people with sarcoidosis.

    ·         The heart is affected in about 1 in 50 people with sarcoidosis.

    ·         Sarcoidosis can also affect other parts of the body, including bones, joints, muscles, the liver, the spleen, the kidneys, and the gut.

    How does sarcoidosis develop and progress?

    You may not know that you have sarcoidosis. It may be diagnosed when you have a chest X-ray for another reason. Up to half of people with sarcoidosis do not know that they have it. They have no symptoms.

    The symptoms may come on quite quickly, over a couple of weeks or so. Some doctors call this acute sarcoidosis. Generally, acute sarcoidosis has a good outlook and tends to go away of its own accord without treatment. Löfgren's syndrome is a type of acute sarcoidosis. It is a combination of erythema nodosum (see below) with swollen or enlarged lymph glands seen on your chest X-ray, uveitis (inflammation in your eye) and joint pains.

    In other people with sarcoidosis, symptoms come on more slowly over a few months or so. Some doctors call this chronic sarcoidosis. Symptoms can get worse over time and often treatment is needed.

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    What are the symptoms of sarcoidosis?

    The symptoms can vary from person to person. This is because sarcoidosis can affect so many different parts of the body. Just one part of your body may be affected by sarcoidosis. Or, more than one part of your body may be affected. Some of the various parts of your body that can be affected and their associated symptoms include the following:

    ·         Lungs - you may notice shortness of breath (particularly on exertion), cough, wheezing, chest pain or (rarely) you may cough up blood (haemoptysis).

    ·         Skin - erythema nodosum is a condition that causes red rounded lumps (nodules), most commonly on your shins. This may develop at the start of sarcoidosis and is the most common skin rash in sarcoidosis. (See separate leaflet called Erythema Nodosum for further details.) Other skin problems that may occur include a purplish, raised rash on your nose, cheeks, chin and ears. This rash is called lupus pernio. Some people with sarcoidosis may develop small nodules just under the surface of their skin.

    ·         Lymph glands - these may be swollen (see separate leaflet called Swollen Lymph Glands). You may notice lumps under the arms, in your neck, or in your groins. Doctors may also notice swollen glands in your chest area when they look at your chest X-ray.

    ·         Eyes - sarcoidosis can cause a type of inflammation within your eyes called uveitis. In this condition the eyes become red and painful. It can also affect vision. (See separate leaflet called Uveitis (Iritis).) You should see a doctor straightaway if you have sarcoidosis and notice any eye symptoms. Your doctor may suggest an examination of your eyes when you are first diagnosed with sarcoidosis to look for any eye problems.

    ·         Heart - sarcoidosis can affect your heartbeat by making it slower or irregular. Damage to your lungs, caused by sarcoidosis, may also cause changes in the right side of your heart and it can become enlarged. This is known as cor pulmonale and can lead toheart failure if left untreated. Your heart can also become generally enlarged in sarcoidosis, known as cardiomyopathy. This means that your heart cannot beat as strongly or effectively and you can become breathless. Cardiomyopathy can also lead to heart failure.

    ·         Nervous system - your nervous system may be affected in a number of ways in sarcoidosis. For example, the nerves of your face, or your head, or your arms and legs may become affected. This may lead to problems with swallowing, drooping of your face or eyesight or hearing problems. Or you may notice numbness and pins and needles in your face, arms or legs. Sarcoidosis can also cause a type of meningitis. It can (rarely) lead to convulsions (fits) or stroke.

    ·         Kidneys - sarcoidosis may affect your kidneys, causing kidney stones because of high levels of calcium in your blood.

    ·         Liver and spleen - these organs may become enlarged in sarcoidosis. This can (rarely) cause problems with your blood clotting or can lead to anaemia.

    ·         Bones, joints and muscles - you may experience joint pains if you have sarcoidosis. Cysts can (rarely) develop in your bones. Inflammation of your muscles is also possible.

    General symptoms may also develop which include high temperature (fever), loss of appetite and weight loss. Fatigue can be a big problem for people with sarcoidosis. Some people may also become quite depressed.

    How is sarcoidosis diagnosed?

    Initial tests by your doctor

    Your doctor may ask you a number of questions if they suspect that you have sarcoidosis. This is to look for any symptoms that you may have and to see which parts of your body sarcoidosis could be affecting. Depending on your symptoms, your doctor may also suggest that they examine you. For example, they may suggest that they listen to your chest, carry out an examination of your lymph glands, examine your skin, etc.

    Your doctor may then suggest some tests. Some of these tests may depend on which part of your body is affected. Tests may include:

    ·         Blood tests - your doctor may suggest some blood tests to look for signs of inflammation. They may check the level of calcium in your blood, as this can be raised in sarcoidosis. They may also check your kidney and liver function and check for a lack of iron in the body (anaemia). Some doctors also suggest a blood test to check the levels of an enzyme (a protein) in your blood, known as angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE). The levels of this enzyme are raised in some people with sarcoidosis. However, its usefulness in helping to diagnose sarcoidosis is thought to be limited.

    ·         Chest X-ray - if your doctor suspects that your lungs may be affected by sarcoidosis, they will usually arrange a chest X-ray.

    ·         Spirometry - your doctor may suggest a special test of your lungs, called spirometry. A spirometer is a device which measures the amount of air that you can blow out. (See separate leaflet called Spirometry for further details.)

    ·         Electrocardiogram (ECG) - your doctor may arrange an ECG. This records the electrical activity of your heart and shows if there are any problems with this due to sarcoidosis that has affected your heart.

    ·         Dipstick test of your urine - a special testing strip is dipped into your urine sampleto look for any signs of blood vessel or kidney problems due to sarcoidosis.

    Referral to a specialist

    If your doctor suspects sarcoidosis, after some initial tests (above), they will usually refer you to a specialist to confirm the diagnosis. The specialist will also provide advice about how best to treat you. The specialist may suggest some other tests to help confirm the diagnosis and to see which parts of your body sarcoidosis is affecting. For example:

    ·         A biopsy - to make a definite diagnosis of sarcoidosis, in most cases, a small sample of tissue (a biopsy) needs to be taken from one of the areas of inflammation (granulomas). If your lungs are a problem, a bronchoscopy is usually done. A small telescope is passed via your nose, down your windpipe (trachea) and into your lungs. A sample of tissue is taken from your lungs and sent to the laboratory. The inflammation of sarcoidosis has a typical appearance when it is examined under a microscope. A biopsy may also be taken from other areas if sarcoidosis is suspected there. For example, your skin, lymph glands, etc. Note: not everyone with sarcoidosis needs a biopsy. For example, if you have the typical symptoms of Löfgren's syndrome, you may not need a biopsy to confirm the diagnosis.

    ·         CT or MRI scans - if your lungs are thought to be affected, a specialist may suggest aCT scan to allow a more detailed look at your lungs. An MRI scan of your heart or your brain may be suggested if sarcoidosis is thought to be affecting your heart or your nervous system.

    ·         Echocardiogram - you may be referred for an ultrasound scan of your heart (an echocardiogram). This can show if your heart is enlarged or affected by sarcoidosis. (See separate leaflet called Echocardiogram.) Other investigations to look at your heart may also be suggested.

    ·         More detailed lung function tests - other tests to look at how your lungs are working may be suggested. Lung function tests may also be used to look to see if your sarcoidosis is worsening or if it is responding to treatment.

    ·         Tests to look for eye involvement - you may be referred for a detailed examination of your eyes by an eye specialist, even if you do not have any specific eye symptoms. This is because sarcoidosis involving the eyes can seriously affect your vision if it is not treated quickly. The examination will usually involve the specialist using a special microscope (a slit lamp) to examine your eyes.

    What is the treatment for sarcoidosis?

    More than three quarters of people with sarcoidosis do not need any treatment because their symptoms are not severe. However, sometimes simple painkillers such as paracetamol or non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), such as ibuprofen, may help to ease symptoms. For example, they may help to ease pain from the rounded lumps (nodules) of erythema nodosum, or joint pains.

    If treatment is needed for sarcoidosis, the aim of treatment is to reduce the inflammation and therefore the symptoms that it causes.

    Steroid medication

    The main treatment for sarcoidosis is usually with steroid tablets. The steroids help to reduce inflammation. Prednisolone is usually used and generally needs to be taken daily at first. Treatment with steroid tablets is often needed for at least 6 to 24 months. Over this time, the dose of the steroid may be gradually reduced. You are more likely to need treatment with steroid tablets if sarcoidosis is affecting your nervous system, heart or eyes, or if you have high calcium levels in your blood, or severe breathing/lung symptoms. Steroid drops or ointments are sometimes used for sarcoidosis affecting the eyes.

    Sometimes, steroid tablets may not be effective or may cause side-effects. Side-effects can include:

    ·         An increased risk of infection.

    ·         Thinning of the skin.

    ·         'Thinning' of the bones (osteoporosis).

    ·         Difficulty sleeping and mood changes.

    ·         Easy bruising.

    ·         Weight gain.

    ·         High blood pressure.

    ·         An increased risk of developing diabetes.

    See separate leaflet called Steroid Tablets for more details.

    Other treatments with medicines

    If steroid tablets are causing side-effects, or are ineffective, there are some other medicines that can be used as alternatives. These are broadly known as cytotoxic or immunosuppressive medicines.

    Cytotoxic medicines work by killing some cells thought to be harmful to the body. Immunosuppressive medicines damp down the body's own immune system. In some illnesses, the immune system can work against the body.

    The cytotoxic or immunosuppressive medicines used for treating sarcoidosis include medicines such as hydroxychloroquine, methotrexate, azathioprine and cyclophosphamide. Infliximab, thalidomide and tetracyclines have also been used in the treatment of sarcoidosis.

    Some of these medicines may be used alone (if steroids are not working), or they may be used in combination with steroids to reduce the dose of steroid needed. Each of the medicines has different possible side-effects. Some side-effects can be serious. Serious side-effects are rare but include damage to the liver and blood-producing cells. Therefore, it is usual to have regular tests - usually blood tests - whilst you take some of these medicines. The aim is that the tests look for possible side-effects before they become serious. You should ask your specialist to discuss in detail the side-effects of any medication that you are prescribed.

    Surgery and non-medicinal treatment

    Very rarely, sarcoidosis can cause severe scarring to the lungs. One of the options for treatment if this occurs is lung transplantation. Heart transplantation has also been used in rare cases where sarcoidosis severely affects the heart. Occasionally, people with sarcoidosis that is affecting the heart may need a pacemaker to help control the rhythm of the heart.

    Will I need any follow-up or monitoring?

    Generally, if you have sarcoidosis, you will be seen regularly by a specialist in an outpatient clinic. The specialist that you see will depend on which area of the body the sarcoidosis affects. For example, it is likely that you will see a lung (respiratory) specialist if the sarcoidosis affects your lungs and an eye (ophthalmology) specialist if it affects your eyes. You may need to see more than one specialist.

    At each follow-up appointment the specialist may ask you questions about any symptoms that you have; they may arrange a chest X-ray and some lung function tests. They may arrange examination of your eyes. They may also suggest other tests depending on your symptoms and which part of your body is affected.

    If sarcoidosis affects your lungs then you should have an influenza immunisation each year.

    What is the outlook (prognosis) for sarcoidosis?

    As many as 2 in 3 people with sarcoidosis do not need any specific treatment. Their sarcoidosis will get better of its own accord over the following two to five years. In about 1 in 3 people with sarcoidosis, it becomes persistent (chronic) and may require treatment. Someone with sarcoidosis can (rarely) be severely affected and may die. This is usually due to severe involvement of the lungs, leading to respiratory failure.

    The outlook tends to be not so good if sarcoidosis affects areas of your body outside your lungs, particularly if it affects your heart or your nerves. People who develop sarcoidosis quickly, over a few weeks, tend to have a better outlook. So do those who develop erythema nodosum, or those who just have swollen lymph glands seen on their chest X-ray and no real breathing or chest symptoms.

     Regards

    Tangles

    • Posted

      Thanks tangles

      Yes, there's a lot to this disease isn't there. Still haven't been seen for the echo docs want me to have or the special breathing lung function tests, but feeling okay.

      SufferIn

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