Sarcoidosis - not enough care and attention given to sufferers

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Hi, I've only just joined this forum but as a long term sufferer of Chronic Sarcoidosis I thought maybe I could say a few things on the matter. First of all I was shocked to read that one of the forum members had been told by his specialist that night sweats are not a symptom of sacoidosis. Nonsense! night sweats and indeed profuse sweating during the day are symptoms of Sarcoidosis. The lack of support for people suffering from sarcoidosis is dreadful but the truth is that not enough is known about the disease and especially amongst UK doctors. American doctors are more on the ball but then they have the money for research etc in the US. I spend my entire time fighting and arguing with health people, trying to get appropriate treatment for my various symptoms. Luckily I have an excellent respiratory specialist but that is all he is a respiratory specialist so when it comes to all the other problems I have due to sarcoidosis such as skin, eyes and nerves I have to fight to get tests and treatment as either no one believes me or they think it is up to my respiratory specialist to deal with it. He in turn kicks it back to my GP (rightly so) and at the end of the day nothing gets done as no one will take responsibility for the symptoms! It's a ridiculous situation but it boils down to money as all these MRIs and tests are very expensive and neither party wants to foot the bill. The over powering fatigue is dreadful and I can literally fall asleep in mid conversation. Also the depression that comes from constantly feeling unwell and the frustration of fighting for proper care also takes it's toll. The sweating I spoke about earlier, can not only hit at night either as I find that expending a little energy just hoovering a carpet can cause sweat to literally drop off me. At the moment I have severe pain and severe pins and needles in both arms and hands and it has taken me 6 months to finally talk my GP into allowing me to see a neurologist. I will see her tomorrow but my respiratory specialist told me not to hold out too much hope of being believed! So you see even the doctors who understand Sarcoidosis know the taboo within the health sector so what chance do we have? I was originally on high doses of steroids but unfortunately they caused me to have a psychotic break so I had to be taken off them so I am now on an inhaler and mucosal thinner to try to combat the extremely thick, sticky sputum I cough up.In one sense I suppose I am luck as I am already in a wheelchair due to nerve damaged feet (hospital screw up!) but I had to change to an electric wheelchair because with being so breathless and having nerve problems in both arms I couldn't propel myself around in my manual one. I say I'm lucky to be in a wheelchair only because without it I wouldn't be able to get around at all because of the sarcoidosis. I sometimes wonder if UK doctors have a bad attitude towards sarcoid sufferers because they think everyone only has the acute sarcoidosis and it would probably resolve itself or even come and go undetected in it's own time. I really don't know but what I do know is that they need to become better informed about this disease and be more caring when treating their patients. It's not a deadly disease but it certainly takes its toll on the sufferer and the symptoms need correct and fast treatment before they become a real problem. Keep your chin up fellow sufferers and don't be scared to be pushy with your GP. He has a comittment to treat his patients whether he thinks its serious or not. You have a right to demand to see a specialist or to get a second opinion but do remember that not everything is linked to your sarcoidosis so if you develop a new problem make sure you get it checked out properly and don't be fobbed off with your GP saying it's just a symptom of your sarcoid because it could be a different health issue altogether.

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    It's very interesting the latest flurry of activity on here!  My sarcoid attacks my knees and at worse all my joints. I'd never really thought about diet affecting it but perhaps that and my herbal medicine will keep things at bay?!
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    Hi Everyone and welcome to the new members,

    A word of caution about taking extra Vitamin D or calcium. I have osteoporosis after many years off and on steroids, but then again I'm a 58 year old woman who might expect to have a degree of bone wastage. Several years ago at a rheumotology clinic  I was seen by a nurse practioner rather than the rheumatologist who freaked out when she saw my blood test results, as they showed practically no Vitamin D. She rushed off to get the consultant who explained that people with Sarcoidosis make Vitamin D extra-really which means it doesn't show up in blood tests. I then met a Sarcoidoisis sufferer who had nearly died after being prescribed extra Vit D as too much can cause kidney and liver failure. I think the test is if you feel OK, you don't need extra D. Calcium is also an issue as again Sarkies can have more than the tests show. The Royal Brompton registrar advised against taking it when I asked

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      Yes this can be an issue. When I first went to my GP he told me to take 1000mg per day of vit D. Which I Then was not mentioned again so I stopped    Also was told too much calcium in my body hence cut out prawns etc. although the herbalist has put me on a calcium tablet but I did make him aware
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      So is there no test that would show genuine Vit D levels?
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      Yes there are blood tests for Vitamin D levels but a word of caution as my Father has just had massive doses of Vitamin D for depression and they made him feel dreadful!
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    Sorry, the wretched auto correction had changed extra- renally to extra- really. A vital difference!
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    Yes there tests for Vitamin D but it comes in several forms, as do all vitamins. The standard NHS blood tests do not pick the form of vitamin D produced extra-renally by people with sarcoidosis, hence the nurse's panic when she saw my results. She asked me if I felt ill, which I didn't which amazed her because if my D had been that low I would have been very ill. But hypervitaminosis - too high a level of a vitamin - can kill which is why those with sarcoidosis need to be very careful. Di
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    Hi All & welcome to the group Gustav & Boomatunn,

    Unfortunately I don't appear to be  any closer to receiving treatment for the condition. I have been told time & time again by resp consultant that he believes I am suffering from sarcoids but all the results from the numerous biopsies etc have come back inconclusive & he doesn't want to start me on steroids until 100%sure & needs to rule out other conditions( not sure what). The plan now is to have another ct to check lungs & do a biopsy of my lungs under GA. The tests are becoming more & more invasive & I feel like my condition is getting worse day by day. I'm very fed up by it all. I haven't seen my GP as just thought they probably couldn't do anything as under investigation by in hospital.  Consultant has apologised that the diagnosis period is taking so long.

    I understand his hesitation but Feels like there will never be light at the end of the tunnel sad 

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      Thanks for the welcome. It took 9 months for me to get a diagnosis following a mediastinoscopy. Are you saying that you've had bronchoscopies and still no diagnosis?
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      Yes I've had two, biopsies of the granulomas & chest lymph nodes, usual blood tests& lung function tests, CT at the start& couple of chest X-rays. He certainly is being thorough. Now want to go in surgically for lung biopsy.

      its been 8 months since did first xray 

      Just been a bit of a long journey as also had 3 unnecessary operations a couple of yrs ago bilateral carpel tunnel due to joint pain & gall bladder removal but still have the same pains which I've been told might actually be sarcoid pain.

       

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      That's a lot to go through. Two of my lymph nodes were removed during the mediastinoscopy. I wish you well and will read your updates on here. Take care.
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      Hi Cassy

      It took a year and numerous X-ray  Ct  biopsies before they actually said 'presumed sarcoid '

      It appears so hard a disease to pin pint so it seems it's a process of imitation

      Hopefully you will get a decision soon

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      Thanks Linda &  Gustav.

      This week has been quite a struggle. Like many of us have said its nice to get advice & support from this group xx 

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      The week has been a struggle for me too. I wish I'd found this group sooner. We need to be there for each other. xx
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    Hi

    Does anyone  suffer with tingly hands that tend to travel beyond the wrist. I had this a couple if weeks ago for a few days. Now it's back again. At first I thought it was pins n needles  but it is a funny sensation.  It feels like there is a sparkler  running all over my hands 

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      The only times I've had anything like that its just been 1 hand/wrist and the doctor reckoned I must have bashed my hand or arm off something and hit the nerve. Which is indeed the kind of thing I'm easily capable of doing without realising at the time.

      But never had it in both hands at the same time

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      I have had this and found it's more prevalent at night. Feels like the nerve endings are jangling.
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      Hi Morag  yes I see what you are saying. But that tingly is usually only for a while once hit as such   This is a horrid sensation
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      Hi Gustav

      Mine is all day  I expect to see all twinkly lights under my skin is the best way to explain it

      Ironically I've not used Computer all weekend so can't even blame it on that

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      Hi Linda,

      I have this as well. I've had it for quite a few years. It's in both hands affecting my fingers & sometimes travels up my arms. Like you say it's horrid feeling. My fingers also get very stiff & have weakness in both hands/arms. It is also worse at night. I ended up having bilateral carpel tunnel ops as they thought that was the cause but the symptoms returned straight after the operations.

      Does anyone else have these symptoms?

       

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      Hi Cassy, sorry to hear you have this awful thing too, but glad to hear I am not the only one, which seems to point as a Sarcoid related issue then.

      It drives me crazy.

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      Linda, Cassy, Gustav,

      I get that a lot too, but I can also get that in my head, for head (hairline) and face at times. It comes and goes, sometimes my mind goes totally blank too (when it's in my head). Sarcoid can be neurological too and I think I have some form of it but my consulants thought that just to keep an eye on it as it doesn't seem seroius enough to have an MRI scan.. It is most horrible feeling, not sore but just so uncomfortable..

      PS, still no sign of June, I really hope she is OK..

      Love to all,

      MM

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      Hi MM

      Sorry to hear you have it also

      So it does seem to be Sarcoid related 

      I actually contacted my consultants secretary who has called me and going to get back to me

      June.  Yes very worrying. She did disappear for a lite while before so hopefully all is ok and will be back soon

      Take care x

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      It does seem like it as you say Linda. I strongly believe it is neurological.. maybe some kind of nodules in the brain or nervous system..  It is like tingling annoying itch inside..

      Hopefully she is back with us soon smile

      Love and health

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      I agree MM. I also occasionally get it on the side of my head & down my legs so surely must bea neurological issue. 

      Will be interesting to see what your consultants thoughts are Linda.

      it is worrying about June. Hopefully she has just been a bit busy recently. I sent her a pm about a week ago to see if ok but haven't heard anything back 😟

      C xx

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      Yep, me too Cassy, forgot to say that down my legs too, usually upper but not always the same

      Keep us posted please Linda x

      MM

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      I have it occasionally in my feet but nowhere near as intense as In my hands

      One thing after another....

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      Once I hear I will let you know

      And don't think it could be medication as we are all on different things

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      Sorry Cassy I didn't get your PM but thank you, MM and Linda, so much for caring. I had a lot of hospital trips and my Sarcoid was causing me a lot of trouble. I felt so ill and couldn't seem to get on top of it but thankfully I am feeling better now. It must have been those kind thoughts you were sending biggrin

      hugs, June

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