Wegeners-Nervous system attacked-feet swollen feet, dead fingers

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I have been diagnosed with WG and am on the usual medication.

WG attacked my nervous system. My feet are swollen and movement is painful. At night the swellings subsides but the moment I get up and move around the swelling flares up.

My hands have also been affected. The fingers are dead, no feeling and no muscle movement possible - cannot use the left hand at all. The right hand I can still use but the skin feels numb.

I have searched articles and discussion forums but nobody seems to have had this problem.

Would appreciate feedback

Hannes

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    Hi Hannes

    Sorry to see you have WG and although its good to find someone with same sysmptoms its sad you have been caught out with it. When my WG started I had swollen feet, ankles, knees, hand knuckles, most fingers could not move or bend, wrists and elbows were painfull with movement but particularly when lifting oneself out of an armchair. As you have said the swelling in legs and feet went down overnight and were swollen as soon as I got out of bed. While in hospital last year I was on daily dose 80mg prednisolone steroids and swelling went down approx 4 days later, still had to have right knee drained due to fluid build up. Like you I could not grip things and lacked the upper body strength to even pick up a kettle. Steroids got rid of it the first time but same problem started again Jan this year gradually getting worse until admitted to hospital on 15 May 12 and was treated with 1000mg steroid infusion each day for three days, which got rid of most of it. I just have the occassion ache in the hands and knees. I was discharged from hospital on 23 May 12 as they started me on a 4 week course of 866mg of Rituximab used primarily in arthritis but works well against WG and kills all the B2 cells causing the problem but leaves you with no immune system for 6 months so important to take antibiotics and keep away from people with colds and wash your hands each time you handle things that other people have used. When discharged from hospital paperwork stated that the cause of all the joint problems and swelling was Sinovitis. Despite treatment I think the joint problem will return again. Rituximab was given to try and halt the many flare ups I have had with WG as Chemo and Microphenolate Mofetil have not been able to control it enough. Since the high dose steroid and Rituximab infusions my breathing has improved, unfortunately, I have been told that I will have to have either three stents or one shaped like a catapult inserted into the airway and am currently waiting for a date for that.I hope the above goes some way to helping you with yours. Let me know how you get on. All the best,Dave

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    Hannes

    Forgot to mention, the second time I had the joints problem pain would start in hands and wake me up approx 0400hrs getting worse as morning progressed and would start to ease off from approx 1330hrs. swelling and pain would change on a daily basis and some days were better that others which left you feeling problem was getting better then it would come back. It took almost 5 months for someone to tell me it was Sinovitis despite seeing hospital consultants on several occassions and raising problem. Had force issue as had to take someone with me to see a hospital consultant as was unable to take shoes and socks off and barely walk, I was annoyed that nothing was done sooner but due to WG docs will do nothing without consulting others and the net for advice even though they are specialists in WG hence the long wait for treatment. All the best Dave

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    Hi Dave

    Thanks for a very insightful input. I would dearly like to take up a few issues in more detail with you which may not be of interest to this forum. Will appreciate it if you can confirm your email address to me at xxx.

    Thanks

    Hannes

    Emis Moderator comment: I have removed the email address as we do not publish these. There will be a Private Messaging service going live soon so users can communicate outside of the forums if required. In the meantime I will email Dave with your address.

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    Hi Hannes,

    Just read your account whihc I believe was posted over a year ago.  I have only just been diagnosed with WG just over two weeks ago but have been suffering intermittent pain and swellings in joints for over two years.   Twelve months ago went on to develop severe sciatica, rhinitis, sinusitus, loss of hearing in both ears resulting in grommet insertion which has helped.  Approx 5 weeks ago I experienced a lot of numbness and some tingling in my foot which seems to be similar to your experience - its really very uncomfortable but not the chronic pain I had with the badly swollen joints.  I am just wondering how you are feeling now, and am really hoping to hear that you may have had a lot of improvement.

    Would appreciate hearing from you or anyone else experiencing similar symptoms.  Any advice would be appreciated.

    Ann 51793

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      Hi ann51793

      Its now just over 2 years from the onset of WG. I must say that I have progressed to the point where I can get around normally. I do not have swollen feet but still have sore feet (the soles in particular). If I have to walk a lot I use pain medication but I try to limit this as far as possible. Its winter now here in South Africa and at night I use a warm water bottle to keep my feet warm otherwise they are ice cold and I cannot sleep. Both feet are still numb and sensitive to touch.

      My hands are also better. The muscle action in the fingers are back to almost normal but the left hands fingers are stil numb and sensitive - can only type on the keyboard with my pinkie (the only finger not affected)

      I am on 5 mg prednisone and 150 mg azathioprine.

      I really hope your condition improves - it sounds as though you have already been through hell. I would suggest that you contact Lynne Jacques - she has been my mentor from the beginning - she will be a great help to you.

      Hannes

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      Hi Hannes

      Thanks so much for your reply and am so glad you have seen some improvemeent. 

      I had my second chemo infusion yesterday so feeling a little groggy today but luckily no sickness.  The grogginess is due mainly to  sleep deprivation caused from the high dose steroids I am taking at the moment.

      I think I will try a warm water bottle on my one foot tonight to see if it will help me sleep- it does feel very cold, numb and exceedingly sensitive, although we are in the midst of our summer

      Also I am wondering how I can get in tough with Lynne Jacques, the person you have suggested to me.  I am very new to this site and am not sure where I may find her. 

      Thanks so much for your help.

      Ann

       

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      HI Ann

      If the Moderator will allow it I can give you her email address or he can give you my email address otherwise just post a message that you would like share with her on this forum - she is a regular reader but she might be on holiday in Greece.

      Good luck

       

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      Hi Hannes,

      Just wanted to let you know I have managed to get in touch with Lynne Jacques.  I found her tel. no. on  another vasculitis site and  managed to speak to her on the telephone.  She was indeed very reassuring.  Thanks again for your tips and wish you good luck in the future.

       

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    Good to read you have improved. It certainly takes a long time to see change with this condition. I have had a tingling/numb/cold and very sensitive left foot particularly the toes on and off for for a while which seems to be reducing. I have found that taking Ibruprofen 400mg pain relief tablets during a 24/48hr period gets rid of the pain and inflamation caused by Sinovitis. I also found that wearing a sock on my bad foot while in bed helped to stop the the irritation caused by bedding helped. The sock must NOT be tight fitting but should fit comfortably. Ibruprofen helps reduce inflamation but only for a short period, week or so. Some time ago I mentioned possibly having a Stent inserted into the airway, this was finally done July 2012 whereby an 80mm long tube was inserted. Unfortunately, it just made things worse and it had to be removed in March last year as it had broken and moved, the rest I will leave out. Due to Chemo treatment in 2011, I had a second Cystoscopy two weeks ago and was given all clear. I had my last Rituximab and 100mg steriod infusion last week and my consultant is happy with progress, none the less I still have another two years of hospital monitoring to go.

    All the best

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    Hi, I've diagnosed WG 4 years ago, history of ENT issues. In the last 6 months I've had several episodes of my feet swelling badly, it's freaked me out a bit bit walking and ibuprofen seem to work as well as predis.
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    My ankles and wrist and elbows and fingers have done this before hurt but i have read it can cause joint pain but my dr acts like its not from wengers which i think it is. Last about 3 days and got better
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      It freaks me out cause just out of blues crazy stuff just happens take pics always
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    Really interested in this thread, reassuring so many of us have similar issue which I swear is WG related, although my consultant says it's not.

    Tips on ibuprofen helped me a lot so thanks.

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