experimental drug for polycythemia

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I had a meet last week with my consultant. Without going into to much detail , she offered me the opportunity to take part in a trial for a drug called roxilitnib. Apparently this drug is life changing ie puts an end to a great many symptoms that jak2 suffera are afflicted with. The trial involves being tested to check if I am a candidate for this drug. This would entail a bone marrow test and a few blood samples as well as more frequent hospital visits. If I was deemed suitable I would be taking the drug then subjected to close monitoring including yearly bone marrow tests. At the end of the trial that could be up to five yrs of taking this drug, I could then be told whether or not I will be kept on this drug.

The problem I have with the last sentence is this, if I am being asked to put up with that amount of inconvenience I would expect to be given this drug permanently. Also I would be expected to have full relief of all symptoms only to revert to type after a length of time. The reason I comment on the latter is, one of the nurses involved in this trial told me (has known me since she was a student nurse at least 25yrs) that the vast majority of those on the trial where taken off the drug when their trial ended.

The reason I mention this is, some of you may want to breach the subject with your consultant in order to hopefully on your part take part in this trial. As far as I know, these trials are restricted to jak2 suffers. As for me I don't fancy being a lab rat for a drug that I have a strong feeling will be privatised. Otherwise if I suitable for 12th or 5 yrs why not permanently. Hope this helps. I also have the paperwork that was given to me involving this trial. So if there are any questions I will try to answer.

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    Thanks for this, I have not heard of this drug before.

    I suppose as it is a drug trial there could be a number of the possibly outcomes which might render it unsuitable for you or for anyone. There may be a reduction in some of the unpleasant side effects of PRV, whilst at the same time adding some which tho' not unpleasant to you might be derogatory to your better health. We would probably have to trust that if it was not continued that the reasons were for our better health and not for, say, financial reasons.

    I probably wouldn't offer myself to the trial because of the bone marrow samples.

    I believe I have had 3 taken in the past and the last was taken without any general anaesthetic! It was extremely uncomfortable and the thought of going thru' even one more of those would put me off.

    Nigel

     

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      roxilitnib was approved in USA . Trials have been in UK I don't no how long. I'don't rather wait until it is approved and if I gonna get it it will get it, without the misery of going thru what is asked of me only to have it taken away again. I was suspicious that it won't be a nhs drug because I could be on it for up to 5 yr. If I can be taking it for that length of time then I would most likely be suitable . So why stop it again. That only 1 of the roles I have with it all.
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    Hi clem. If  you have Polycythemia Rubra VEra, that means you weren't positive for the jak2 gene mutation. If you were tested and found positive for jak2 gene mutation, then you have polycythemia Vera. Is that right? I was positive, and diagnosed with Polycythemia Vera. Is that what you have? Anyway, if you do the experimental drug trial, and it works well for you, then it helps you to know if you want to continue on it when it becomes available on the market. I'm sure you have your reasons for wanting to participate in the trial. I wish you the best.

    harrishill

     

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      People who have the jak2 gene are being asked to take part in this trial. As the nurse who is involved in this trial told me, the vast majority are receiving for up to 5 yr then being refused it. That's my point, how can you be suitable for yr's then not be. That's why I'might suspicious that it isn't a nhs drug. It's a lot of test to expect me to go through only to be told I won't be if it. I have the jak2 gene , there debate for a while as to what was making me sick so I get confused at times. Sorry for confusion.
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    Ruxolitinib has been approved in the US. It is sold in some other countries as well, although I'm not sure which, under the trade names Jakavi and Jakafi by Novartis and Incyte Pharmas. It is a JAK inhibitor. It was first approved as a treatment for myelofibrosis. Most probably the reason they would do a bone marrow test is to see what stage the PV is at: the progressed stage could involve secondary myelofibrosis. I have read that it has positively helped many patients in the US. It is also possible that they want to test ruxolitinib at earlier stages of PV. Another possibility is that they want to study how long the effects last after the last dose, whether they are reversible or not, in short, yes, you will be a guinea pig. I am not aware of how strict the guidelines in the UK are, but sooner or later Ruxolitinib will be on the market unless it gives some very different/undesired results in the UK trial population. Doctors generally don't put you on Ruxolitinib unless other drugs don't help because it is still in the earlier phases and long term effects are not known. However, the drug would possibly be very expensive early on, which will again limit the number of users. I know it is very expensive in India. But it sure is the new wonder drug for PV/myelofibrosis for many if not all in the US.
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      Thank you very informative. I have enough street giving a little blood sample without what their asking of me. Not doing either way. Though if it is approved and they want to try me using it , then I will give it a go then. But not now seeing how I have a needle phobia. Ta for your post
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    Much of what you say Clem I would concur with.  I was taking Hydroxycarbamide for many years and became intolerant of it.  Had some painful issues with it and the haematologist took me off the hydroxycsrbamide, and onto Ruxolitinib which I still take daily.  I was on maximum recommended dosage of Hydroxycarbamide which seemed to cause many of my problems.  I was part of the research trial though was not on the trial drug but the placebo which could only be Hydroxycarbamide.  This was termed 'best available treatment' for nothing else was available to treat PV.  The consultant had to obtain hospital authorisation for me to receive the new drug.  It was explained to me that I would need to take it forever as the improvement it gave would be reversed if it was stopped.  The spleen could become enlarged with all that entailed.  The UK trial is monitored by 2 large London Hospitas with the assistance of local hospitals elsewhere in the country.  Your experience initially is similar to mine .  I had no problem with Bone marrow testing for i received a painkilling injection first.  I have made enquiries about US programme and it is very favourable.  I am at the hospital tomorrow for the latest check-up.  The haematology team have been splendid throughout.
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      Unfortunately my phobia of needles prevents me from taking bone marrow tests so I won't be taking part in trials. It's hard enough for me to give a blood sample or have blood off. Hope things go well for you 2moro. All da best
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    Clem,

    I assume you are referring to the needle bone marrow biopsy, where a needle is inserted into the bone (maybe the hip bone?) and a quantity of marrow is drawn off for testing.

    I have had this done three times and the first two I was given an anesthetic which meant I had no memory of what was going. I was told that it supressed memory so I was able to cooperate at the moment, but retained no memory of it. The last time I was just given a local anesthetic, which unfortunately didn't mask the strong effect I felt all down my leg!

    I would suggest you try asking your consultant that if you have to undergo a bone marrow sample that they give you the former anesthetic as I truly felt nothing adverse. I am also fearful of needles.

    Nigel

     

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      Apart from me having a very gd memory of the vast majority of it . I wasn't aware I was getting a javelin stabbed into my hip otherwise I wouldn't have volunteered myself for it in 1st place. It took me more than 10 yrs to get to the stage I am at now concerning needles. I cringe at the thought. I have been blown up shot at run into burning building , but that little pin pick is to tall an order.
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    Clem,

    Believe me I sympathise as I too fear needles. Once when I had a long stay in hospital I was given the chance to take a weekend at home if I would do my own injections. Of course I couldn't and so I had to stay in.

    Have you spoken with your consultant about your fear? You are not the only one and I'm sure they have dealt with others. If they can't persuade you to endure  just the first needle (which will mask any subsequent). Maybe they can offer other anesthetics such as by gas or tablet. I would have thought the effort to overcome this brief hurdle will save you a lifetime of discomfort.

    Good luck

    Nigel

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      Oh yeah , nurses get a bloody good laugh out of it. Everyone who knows me is well aware of it. Tried councilling and hypnotherapy. Nothing works, it's part of my make up.

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