11weeks tkr post op knee still not bending

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Hi I’m 11 weeks post op after 2nd tkr. At this stage with my first tkr I had a 120 bend but this time round the range hasn’t moved from 30 in the last 4 weeks.  Plus the swelling is still quite bad, my knee feels lumpy and stuck.   I saw my consultant 2 weeks ago and he just said keep doing the exercises.  However despite trying, most of them I still can’t do.  Physiotherapist (nhs) only gives me a print out of exercises and tells me to come back in 3 weeks.  I keep icing and elevating after exercise but there has been no change for weeks.  I’m thinking of paying to see a private physiotherapist to see if they can help.  As well as my exercises I go for 4 ten minutes walks a day( it’s all I can manage).  If anyone has any advice or words of wisdom I’d appreciate it,  thanks folks 😊

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    I am in the US and am 17 weeks post TKR.  Since I have been on this site I am always amazed how each TKR is so different and how differently the US and UK doctors handle things.  My surgeron said if I wasn’t at 0/120 by week 12 I would have a MUA.   So at 12 weeks because I was stuck at -5/100 he did a MUA.  For me the MUA, the MUA was what I needed to get the bend in my knee.  I am now at 0/125 and with a rope and pulling I can get to 0/130.  

    It has to be frustrating to be this far at and to only be at 30 degree bend since I was freaking when I was at 100 at 11 weeks.   

    Have you talked with the surgeron?  Maybe paying for a private physiotherapist will help....sorry I am not more help.  

     

    • Posted

      Hi MAT2018. Thanks for your response.  I don't see my surgeon again until August and can't get an earlier appointment as he is fully booked.   What does a MUA do?  Or how is it performed?  It sounds like a May need one.  Is it a long recovery?  I dread having to go through this all over again.   I'm glad that it has worked for you, and this gives me hope.   Il definitely see a private physio.  Thanks again, 😀

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      The MUA is where they put you back under and manipulate your knee to break up scar tissue.   Some of us just form scar tissue faster than others or in your case one knee faster  than the other (that happened to friend of mine here also, one knee needed the MUA and the other didn’t) 

      My leg was sore for couple of days where they held on to it to push through the scar tissue but other than that no problems.  The nice thing was I saw and felt right away the difference in how well I could walk and deal with stairs.  

      For two weeks after the MUA he wanted me not to do any unnecessary walking or anything that would cause the knee to swell and to do my ROM exercises (knee slides, etc) every hour or so while awake.  But after that I was able to do everything, walk, drive...for me it got me to the level of activity should of been at...it wasn’t a start over if you know what I mean.  

       

  • Posted

    It sounds like your swelling may be preventing you from being able to bend your leg more. Maybe your body is telling you not to walk so much...40mins per day seems a lot at 4 wks. Try resting, elevating & icing only for a few days then see if the swelling has gone down. I am 7 wks and my physio has said that my swelling is preventing me being able to bend my knee more. I use a compression ice kit (from Amazon) ...Lumark...

    Cost £40 but it does seem to reduce the swelling. Just do those exercises that you can manage. Good luck!

  • Posted

    Try some of these...

    https://patient.info/forums/discuss/tkr-rom-work-at-home-620053

    To straighten the leg, #3 is a KILLER!!!!

    Just note that your situation is the most common.  From so many posts on here, it looks like #2 is "most of the time" very different from #1.  Even for people with simultaneous bilaterals, the two knee recoveries are rarely the same.  The problem for people who had a great #1, is the expectation that #2 will be easy too.  After reading over 4,000 posts on here, that doesn't sound like the way it usually turns out.

    Suggestion:  Forget #1...forget expectations and comparisons.  Deal with #2 completely independently and do what you have to do to finish a successful recovery.

  • Posted

    You are walking a lot, maybe try less?

    Seeing a physio privately sounds like a good idea. Makes sure you get one with a lot of experience with TKR

    I used two supports for any walking over ten minutes even at 12 weeks!

    I could only walk a tiny weeny bit in the house, literally a few minutes, with no stick or crutch at 8 weeks. I used one around the house for what seemed like ages.

    My physiotherapist urged me to stick with using support for as long as I felt I needed it, and I didn't see the point in causing myself needless pain. Instead I focused on improving range of motion and decreasing swelling more than dispensing with support.

    My quads were very weak and took a while to activate so I took things slowly.

    Reducing the swelling is important. Are you having a lot of pain?

    I wanted to reduce pain medications more than walk independently in the early months, so I worked on the principle that if i had pain on walking my knee needed support. It's only partial support anyway, as some weight bearing goes on, just less than your full body weight.

    Now I am 14 months post op and all is super...but it's hard for a good six months, so get all the help you can.

    You may like to go to my profile by clicking on the image next to my name. I kept a journal of my own knee replacement journey, and I have been told by several people they found it helpful to read, or skim through. There is an abridged version which is shorter as well! It has a lot of useful suggestions and information.

  • Posted

    Sorry Kerrie,

    At 6 months post TKR I'm only at 83 bend and not good with extension but with too much pain have difficulty in pushing for more. Consultant says thinks I have a trapped nerve so MRI/ pain injections possibly. Not the outcome I hoped for and from being active pre bone on bone arthritis am reduced to an invalid status needing two crutches most of the time. My personal opinion is don't overdo it or beat yourself up about it. I tried to do too much and maybe the cause of the problem.Once your knee swelling has subsided it will be hopefully easier.

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      Look above in the post and click on the link I posted.  See if those help.
  • Posted

    Hi Kerrie,

    At 4 weeks you really are doing too much walking! Maybe you could with the other knee, but you have found, as have a lot of us, that each operation is different. Your healing is different, you cannot go on how it was the 1st time around! It's a different leg!

    Just ease off, ice & elevate, then reintroduce the walks, not so far, not for so long, maybe start with 10 mins a day or less. See how the knee reacts to that & see where you go from there. If ok build up slowly to 4 x 10 min walks a day but probably in a month or so, it all depends how the knee responds.

    Do your physio exercises as best you can, quality over quantity, but you  will not be able to perform them too well whilst you are really swollen, so concentrate on getting that down 1st. Make sure you do the exercises to straighten your leg as without a straight leg you will limp!!

    Better to do your exercises than walking distances.

    Although you only get an exercise sheet from physio, they will be tailored to you & your operated. You may not think the physio is doing much but as you walk/limp into the room they are assessing you, your gait & how you are using that knee.

    From memory of my 1st physio session, we had a sit down session where she went through the history of the knee, how the op went & what level of pain/swelling I had. What I expected to be able to achieve, She then looked at both knees & I had to walk & stand, then she got me onto the bed & asked me to do certain exercises to see how I did them. I was told to increase certain exercises & that was it. The next session she took away some of the original hospital set & gave me more slightly harder exercises. More exercises & higher intensity were given at later sessions. So don't worry too much your physiotherapist will be doing more for you. If you've had 1, you should have another 5 sessions to go on the NHS. (Although it does seem to be different in other health areas.)

    The knee is in charge, listen to it.

    A private physiotherapist is a really good idea, choose one who has experience of post TKR patients.

    Patience is the key here, so don't worry, sit back & read a good book, watch daytime tv or listen to music or whatever else will help you pass the time. Pushing the knee will not make it heal quicker, the opposite!

    Read Chico's posts & take heed.

    Marilyn 

    XX

    • Posted

      Hi Marylin I’m 11 weeks post op not 4.  My leg extensions is perfect it’s the bending that isn’t.  It was the nhs physio who told me to walk a minimum of 4 ten minutes walks a day as well as exercises.  I have only had 3 physio appointments in 11 weeks a different therapist each time with conflicting advice.  So I’ve just booked in with a private physio who is experienced in TKR.  As advised by the fab people like yourself on this forum.  My local health authority has had so many cuts the physics are overwhelmed.  

      Thanks for your advice xx

  • Posted

    Hi folks thanks for all the advice and support.  I’ve booked a private physio for this Thursday who is experienced in TKR so fingers crossed.  This is a great forum for knee stuff,  many thanks again and keep smiling 

    Kindest regards 

    Kerrie xx

    • Posted

      Glad you are seeing someone experienced now Kerrie. Let us know how you get on.

      Marilyn 

      XX

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