12 years later - dizziness, light-headedness. Compensation/decompensation, PPPD ??!

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Very long post here! Might be interesting to those who have similar issues. Boring to everyone else! Any suggestions welcome.

Back in 2008, when I was 20 (I'm 32 now), I had a sudden attack of spinning vertigo at 2AM. I was a typical university student and we were all drunk and high at the time, so I assumed it was that, and went to sleep it off. The next day, the dizziness was still there: spinning and severe unsteadiness. My eyes felt pressured, as though something was trying to push them out of my skull... and they looked strange, "glassy," vacant and staring.

After a few GP visits, I got an initial diagnosis of labyrinthitis. I did an eye test to be sure: results = normal. Also a comprehensive hearing test: results = normal. When the dizziness didn't clear up after three months, I was referred to a heart specialist, made to do various tests and put on a 24-hour heart monitor: results = normal.

The symptoms continued, coming and going every month or two, seemingly at random: light-headedness and a feeling of being about to fall, coupled with severe pressure all through my head and eyes. It was made worse by being in busy places, like restaurants and supermarkets. Looking at a screen set it off, also reading a book.

Later that year, another attack of spinning vertigo. Ears were blocked for a month, with mild tinnitus. Referred to a neurologist. MRI scan: results = normal. Then referred to an ENT, had diagnostic hearing tests and basic vestibular tests: results = normal. Tentative suggestion that I had "atypical migraine." Then given a 7-day heart monitor: results = normal. Finally I was sent to a psychiatrist who, after a few sessions, concluded that I have no obvious psychiatric issues, and probably the dizziness was because I got drunk/high at university too much, and it “fried my neurotransmitters."

Through this 18-month period I felt like a pin-ball, flying back and forth between doctors! I was prescribed medications: Stemetil, Betahistine, Amitriptyline, Fluoxetine, Lyrica, a migraine medication (which I forget) and others. By the end I was on a cocktail of five different pills a day. And my symptoms seemed to be worsening: instead of waves of dizziness every month or two, the light-headedness, head pressure and confusion were now daily and permanent. I couldn't do uni work, nor could I socialise with friends. I moved back to live with my parents, and became socially isolated and quite depressed.

Finally I decided that the doctors weren't helping, so I stopped seeing them; and that the medications were possibly making the thing worse, do I came off them. Being a lot more mature and proactive at age 22 than at age 20, I started thinking outside the box – doing things like acupuncture, trying new sorts of exercise, changing my diet, cutting out caffeine etc.

And, very slowly, over a few years, it worked. The dizziness started to dissolve away, then by age 25/6 I stopped noticing it completely. I was able to start living my life again. I had a good seven years: I finished uni, went into full-time employment, got a relationship, got a new social life etc. I reintroduced caffeine and (for a while) alcohol, and it was fine. Maybe once a year I'd have a little unexpected flutter of light-headedness, for maybe two minutes, and I'd think "oh yes, I remember that!" But it would disappear again, and I'd carry on as normal. I naively assumed, whatever exactly the dizziness had been, it was now pretty much gone forever.

Then last year (2019) it unexpectedly came back in full. Initially it was severe headaches at work, then a feeling of disorientation when I was commuting on the train, then finally waves of severe unsteadiness and light-headedness, to the point where I had to sit down in case I passed out or fell over. No spinning vertigo this time, but otherwise the symptoms were the same as 10 years ago; I spent a few months unable to be on a train, or inside a shop or restaurant, unable to look at a screen for more than 20 minutes etc.

Took a month off work. Did lots of things like clear my diet up again, came off caffeine again, started exercising properly again; also bought migraine glasses to help me look at a computer screen. Then returned to the doctor's office! This time, I was determined to get an answer. Another ENT, who referred me to a vestibular-audiologist. They did two hours of comprehensive vestibular testing, and – miraculously – found something:

“Today's results indicate a peripheral vestibular asymmetry with lower function in the left ear. There were some abnormalities with ocular motor testing that could indicate CNS involvement.”

Primarily I failed the VEMP test, with 0% functioning in (part of) the left ear. They explained that probably at age 20 I had a bout of vestibular neuritis or labyrinthitis, and it permanently damaged the left ear. Over time, I “compensated” for this loss. It took so long to compensate because of all the medications I'd been put on, and all the anxiety and stress of that time – the condition had been “poorly managed.” Anyway, it compensated and cleared up for seven years. But the brain can also “decompensate,” which was what had happened to me. Possibly it was the stress of the job (though I don't remember being that stressed); possibly because, at work, the ceiling lights had been starting to flicker, and I'd been standing underneath them for seven hours a day. Also at that time I was having chiropractic adjustments on my upper back and neck (I have a rotated upper spine, so live with chronic pain and discomfort in the neck) – and I wonder whether the adjustments changed my alignment and that confused my balance system. Or possibly a mix of all three.

The audiologist started me on VRT exercises, which I've been doing daily for seven months now. The dizziness seems to be slowly resolving: now it's a light-headedness that comes and goes through the day. Usually I wake up feeling groggy for a couple of hours, then around 11AM I start getting moderate (occasionally severe) light-headedness, which lasts until about 1PM, then I'm OK for the rest of the day. The symptoms are mostly in the background. I'm able to work a busy full-time job, just about! But I can't commute any more, nor can I look at a screen for the first few hours of the day, because it confuses my eyes and I become imbalanced.

The audiologist referred me back to the ENT department for a second opinion from a specialist in vestibular migraine. He doesn't think there's a migraine element. His tentative diagnosis is PPPD (Persistent Postural Perceptual Dizziness), or “secondary autonomic imbalance following vestibular neuritis.”

Does this sound to people like PPPD? The compensation/decompensation framework made more sense to me. I'm not sure if PPPD is just another way of describing the same thing, or whether it's a separate diagnosis. The “visually induced dizziness” part is exactly right for me – I have a textbook case of that. I'm not sure about “postural” or “gait” issues – unless my spinal rotation was a consequence of the initial vestibular disorder, as a way of balancing me.

Anyway, soldiering on. Another appointment with the ENT later this year, for more tests and perhaps a conclusive diagnosis. Currently trying magnesium supplements and powdered ginger tea. Feeling fairly positive, given everything! At least I'm on the right track... we hope!!

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks for reading such a long post.

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    hi

    Thats very interesting. Thanks for sharing . I have very similar issue, for years i get un explained vertigo, weakness and lightheadedness!

    Cut story short i gave up to find a diagnosis and started to believe that it is stress and depression and nothing physical . Done many tests apart from vestibular balance testing. I was going cancel but after reading your story i will go as it may be worth going maybe i find an issue .. As am 36 yrs old and had stopped socialising , dreaming and working . Hope you get better soon from this misery .

    thanks

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      Just my opinion, but I would definitely go for the balance testing, if you can. You never know... they may find something, and it will clear the mystery up!

      Thanks for your reply. We all seem to have similar stories on here!

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    Thanks for your message and sharing your story Dave . Mine is so similar and I actually had Surgery 3 years ago, A Radical Transmastoid Labyrinthectomy.

    Ansoloute nightmare, and I now suffer every single day. I am at least 100 times worse balance wise and bi-lateral left deaf.

    I knew the hearing was to be sacrificed as it was largely affected anyway, but cant help but think this was an horrendous misdiagnosis. In hindsight, I believe I may have an allergy to the 'mycin' family of antibiotics which are potentially otto toxic.

    I wont bore you too much as it gets me very down. My and my families life seem to be changed forever.

    I wish you, and everyone else all the very best.

    Jason

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      Hi Jason

      OMG I am so sorry for you. I researched that same operation and asked my doctors please do it and I will sacrifice the hearing and they all basically refused said I was not serious enough for the risk. After reading your letter I am so sad for you.

      This situation we are all in is so traumatic and life as we all know it is never the same.

      I cannot even drink alcohol anymore even socially. I get really affected by it. Sounds minor but I did enjoy a drink now and then 😦

      Best regards

      Helen

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      Helen, its a living nightmare that nobody else except people like you and me can see.

      I really do believe something can help us.

      If I thought any differently I wouldnt be here.

      The surgeon pre op advised me that he had never seen the op fail, and he was retiring a month after my op.

      I just dint want to come across as defeatist, even though i often just want to give up.

      Stay strong x

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    Hello David

    I also had a very similar situation. About 5 years ago severe ear infection that went untreated unbearable pain. All of a sudden terrible vertigo even went to hospital. After a few days vertigo went away but was left with unsteadiness, dizziness brain fog and no hearing in left ear. Over time I got my hearing back 100% but other symptoms remained for the last 7 years.

    Went to over 20 doctors (top ENT's in NYC) plus Neurologists. Had MRA' MRI's vestibular testing and vesitbular rehab 4 times. Over and over same results. Last diagnosis was vestibular neuritis and the dr has me on betahistine 2x a day not sure if it is helping and is probably harming me in some way. Oh my insurance does not cover it as it is Canadian.

    All in all a mess. Plus mentally it is very trying. My job is sales I travel quite a bit and work in NYC 5x week when not traveling. Walking in the city is so hard for me. Cannot turn my head and walk I stumble. Traveling on vacation I have to hold my husbands arm to walk and move my head. Everyone says at least you are not dying but my quality of life is tough. The brain fog is hard stress triggers it alot. I thought resting a bit with this virus would help but it is the same.

    I am resigned to the situation but really wish someone out there had some answers.

    Regards

    Helen

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    hi

    Symptoms are more or less same for me too. I am 48 now.. Due to this Illness unable to continue my career . It all started 3 yrs back with tinnitus in ear later on to imbalance while walking and severe when in malls, shops and crowded streets. Too much debilitated . Ent and psychologists consulted and taken all high dose chemical tablets prescribed and tested MRI and blood. Increasing ear sound and no changes in symptoms.

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    This is an old post now, but felt the need to reply..

    My story is very similar to yours David. except mine started way back in 1999. I believe i have a migraine component which impaired my recovery, but started a low dose of amitriptyline a decade or so ago, and it turned the volume of dizziness down to a more manageable level, and i got (most of) my life back. unfortunately every few years it seems to take a dive then it usually gets back to its normal levels but I'm going through a particularly long blip at the moment.

    Anyway, to answer your question, from what ive read, yes "peripheral vestibular dysfunction with failure to compensate" is the same thing as pppd. Its just it never used to have a name. By definition Pppd is usually preceded by a vestibular injury, and is a long way of saying "some people dont get better without the need for extra help" (ie it "persists" even when a lot of the objective/functional markers are no longer evident), and "panic/anxiety symptoms can slow down or stop the compensation process" . Which most vestibular people knew anyway - treatment is the same: treat any panic/anxiety then undertake a course of vrt, but now they suggest throwing in an ssri to speed things along.

    The old caloric eng machines are far less specific than vemps so that might be why it was missed before in your case.

    I will say from my experience i do get periods of obvious decompensation when i get colds/flu or really overdo it, but they are fairly shortlived (and i just ignore them these days). When i get a massive flaire up it seems more intense than that, and lasts for weeks (and gives me non-motion provoked symptoms, along with motion provoked ones), which is why it seems like there is also something episodic going on in the background in my case. The fact these set backs happen far less frequently than they once did may be the result of the ami hence the thoughts of a migraine component.

    anyway, hopefully your symtoms have dropped baseline levels by now, but thought I'd chime in with my two pennith.

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