2nd Kidney Stone Within 4 Years

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I was in hospital for 4 days with 2nd Kidney stone within 4 years apart. 

Does this mean I have Kidney disease ? The Doctors decided not to operate I dont know why. They said they want to wait until it comes out by itself. I get an Ultrasound scan done. But I now worry I may be getting Poly cystic Kidney Disease.

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    Hi, It must only be a small stone if they are letting it pass by itself. I think you can only get kidney damage if it's been left there along time. Did you have a ct scan to confirm the stone? If so they would of picked everything up and told you.

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    Polycystic kidney disease is when you form clusters of cysts on the kidneys. It's completely unrelated to kidney stones. And kidney stones are also not kidney disease, but they can damage your kidneys in certain cases. Some people make kidney stones due to a genetic history, some people don't drink enough water, some eat unhealthy diets or diets full of too many stone forming ingredients. Some of us will only have them one time, while others can form them one after another. I have had two procedures and one E.R. visit and as of today, I have my ninth stone that will either pass or be addressed by another procedure. I think it's going to be at least an annual problem for me.

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      Besides drinking more water , How can I keep my kidneys Healthy ? what Food is good and what is bad for kidney ? I drink alcohol once a Blue Moon. Should avoid this altogether ?
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      Seriously increasing your water intake should help you pass a stone of that size (fairly small as stones go). Try to get medications to help pass it and make it less painful. If the doctors think you can do it on your own, walking/activity and water are the best things to flush it out.

      I read somewhere that drinking beer helps prevent stones for some reason, but I dislike beer, so it's not an option for me. If you drink tea, make sure it's green tea because black tea unfortunately creates stones. I've heard cutting back on salt and animal protein can help. And like Assassin mentioned, Spinach and Rhubarb, despite being healthful foods, are terrible for people that make calcium oxylate kidney stones. I'm fairly certain my first stone was directly related to my frequent consumption of spinach salads and unsweetened iced tea (and not drinking enough water while living in a hot climate). I have completely cut spinach out of my diet and recently gave up black tea once and for all. Hopefully that will slow my stone development. I'm still working on increasing water consumption, which has been the hardest part for me.

      There is some benefit in adding lemon juice to water, but it requires quite a bit to be effective. Something like half a cup of lemon juice a day in water. Though some people take a citrus acid supplement. Magnesium and vitamin b6 prevent calcium oxylate stone formation, but the supplements give many people diarrhea, which leads to dehydration and more stone formation. I haven't been able to take them without that side effect.

      Those are all the immediate suggestions that come to mind.

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    It does not mean you have kidney disease. A kidney stone is a result of sediment in your kidneys forming clumps that have to pass through the urinary tract. It's completely normal that your doctors want you to try and pass it by yourself first. 2.5mm is fairly small for a stone, although not necessarily less painful(not trying to make light of your pain). The first rule of any profession is "Do no harm". This is especially true for doctors. The human body, overall, is very good at correcting itself. You were obviously in a very bad state to spend 4 days in the hospital. If I were you , I would keep notes about what's happening over the next few days, so you can give the doctors the best idea of how to proceed. I hope you have pain medication and anti-nausea medicine in the meantime. Kidney stones can be extremely painful, but they don't mean that you have other kidney problems. Unfortunately, lots of water is the best remedy for flushing out existing stones and preventing future ones. Spinach and rhubarb seem to be the worst foods, so best to avoid them. That is assuming you have a calcium oxalate stone like %80 of all kidney stones. If you pass the stone on your own, you need to save it and give it to your doctor. The type of stone may influence any dietary needs. Hope you get relief soon!

     

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    I suffer from and continually make kidney stones. I was told to  follow a low sodium, low oxalate diet and drink a minimum of 2 litres of water. I had never heard of oxalates before let alone know how to follow a diet. The doctors told me to google it for more information, not in the least helpful. Have you been told what kind of stones you make? Have you had a 24hour uine test?

    I found a support group on Facebook - Kidney Stone Diet and Prevention which has helped me a great deal. It has helped me to understand more about ways to prevent forming stones. It's run by Jill Harris who is a specialist nurse in kidney stone prevention. The group is very nice, kind and supportive, they post recipes which helps with ideas of what you can eat.

     

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    I think whether they operate or not depends on how big the stone is.

    If it is too big to pass it on your own they should operate.

    I had kidney stones removed via keyhole surgery at beginning of December.

    I have had Urinary Tract Infection since then and GP thinks my kidney stones are returning.

    Luckily I have a follow up appointment with the consultant in Bristol on Friday (weather permitting!) so hopefully I will find out then if they have come back.

    Sarah

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