8year olds lack of attention at school -different child at home

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like many people we're reaching out for help and guidence. A little back ground , our son is a happy , caring,funny,clever child that loves playing games,friends,loves school, loves to play sports and takes note of the coach. He has a varied diet , plenty of veg,fish,fruit,carbs but not alot of added suger.

Over the last couple of years we've beeb in talks with his school as to his trouble concentrating in class , he has trouble sitting still , fidgits,makes noises at the wong time , likes to act the fool , dos'nt seem to be afraid of anything even being told off -his actions on the playground seem to be a little over board aswell.He's doing very well at his book work but then will for no reason start going off in a different direction instead of staying on track.He was refured to our GP for pre assesment for adhd but this has'nt gone any furher.At home he can be alittle willful but does what he is asked and only to happy to help , but he likes to know the in and out of everything , hes always asking questions.. I know this is all over the place but we are having trouble dealing with this as just so confused as the boy at home isnot the boy the teachers talk about.

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    check out Aspergers syndrome . kids that go of track when clever are normaly bored

    aspergers kids get bored easy  , kids that want to know the ins and outs of every thing also another sign Aspergers

    the fidgeting and other things you mentioned are also symptoms . 

    it could be a sign of other things to ,

    but check out A/S see if any of it fits . took till my son was 6 till be diognosed it was a nitemare .

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    when his behaviours are different in one setting compared to another it is simply because he has been presented with an aspect of life that he is finding challenging (i.e, that he does not feel like he has the skills to respond to). So his behaviours increasing in the school setting is suggesting to me (as a behaviour specialist) that there are aspects of the school day / envionrment that he is struggling wiht.  This could be school work (i.e, he may have difficulties with certain task requirements such as handwritting, reading etcetera), the lenght of the day (i.e., the length of the school day with increased demands may have him tiring quicker in comparison to his same ages peers), the people he is being asked to spend time wiht (e.g, social skills might be lacking) etcetera.  These are just some examples out of an endless pit of possiblities. The key is that his unwanted behavours are simply are form of communication - they are not be judged as wrong rather understood!  Your son's behaviours are simply communicating to us that life is challenging for him.  We need ot ask "what is challening for him" - "what aspects  of life do we need to support him to develop the skills so he feels more equipped to respond to that aspect of life"

    Warm regards

    Tanya Curtis

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    another thought croses my mind...but I'm sure you have already checked....is his sight ok and does he hear ok too?

    MANY years ago one of my lovely sons became "DIFFICULT IN CLASS" and we had \NO troub les with him at home. ON checking he was found to be almost completely deaf in one ear, partially deaf in the other, and was short sightred too; at home he was managing as he had a big sister who translated and directed everything he wanted or needed so he wasn't in any way threatened by his circumstances, but at school when he was" naughty" he was made to sit at the back of the class .....not the best place for a deaf child with a sight problem!!!!! This may seems daft but itw worth checking and I do hope you get some support in your community too, not just online,push the gp for that assessment ...HARD!! you deserve answers!!!! good luck x

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      I was thinking along these lines, too. He interacts in ways that makes me think he's not on the autistic spectrum and/or Asperger's. His impulsivity and getting derailed mid-assignment looks like ADHD, but let's not be hasty.  (and plenty of people who have ADHD happen to be very bright, creative and funny)

      See if there's a physical reason for not keeping up with the class. If he's not hearing or seeing well, he'll fatigue easily and start acting as you described. It's possible that he has dyslexia or even dysgraphia which makes nearly all school tasks difficult at this age, even if he's bright and learning it all well.

      An ADHD diagnosis does not mean you NEED to medicate your child (or as an adult).  Some people do need medication, just as you medicate for other medical conditions. But, first there should be classroom modifications and strategies that are tried with the school and the teacher on your son's side. There are non-stimulant medications, too, but even IF he has ADHD, I'd wait before trying anything and see how he responds to some environmental changes. (meaning an aide or the teacher redirects him, his seat is near what's being shown, he has a fidgit toy like a strip of sandpaper under his desk or a heavy rubber band across his chair legs so he can let off some of the pent-up energy without distractions to himself or others, etc.)

      Good Luck!

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    sounds like my grandson who began doing the same thing at the age of 9. after many months of research he was put on 81 mg of concerta. complete turn around. he can now focus and is doing incredibly well. he is now 14 and only takes it when he is in school.
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    Hi Please can I say as a mum of 5 He sounds like a very normal kid to me who comes from a loving home . They are so quick nowadays to try and label children and also the drug companies are making a fortune out of  it  . Despite years of expensive research there is still no valid laboratory test which proves that ADHD exists  and the checklist of so called symptoms are just typical ways all kids behave especially boys. You must read "The ADHD Fraud " by Fred Baughman MD .      In America half the schoolchildren are on one drug or another Many kids have actually died from  the side effects of stimulant drugs which  contain amphetamines  yet drug companies promote them as safe Diagnosing kids with behavioural problems under the guise of mental health is big business for pharmaceuticals and honestly no child is safe  from the prying eyes of psychiatrists and psychologists.  My advice is guard your child and do not let him become yet another victim.    He sounds like a real little charactor who will do well in life if hes allowed to grow up naturally  . !

     

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    i take on board that there will kids on medication that do not need to be but as a 58 year old woman I can vouch (without a valid labrotary test) that I suffer from ADHD and have done/will do all my life.  I was diagnosed two years ago and am now taking concerta. The difference in my concentration is remarkable! 
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    Have a blood test called a Karyotype. To rule out any chromosome disorder. If it not due to a chromosome disorder, you can rule out that out.

    He could have xyy syndrome. I met a 19 xyy man and he said he reacts differently between school. and at home. He said he never knew why until his doctor checked his blood. He said he was fearless in certain situations, ignoring dangerous areas.

    Good luck

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