A big thank you and more advice please.
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I joined this forum because of one friend who was full of doom and gloom when I told her about my pmr diagnosis in April this year - from being perturbed at the time I am now grateful . Joining you is the best thing I could have done and thank you to you all for the invaluable advice and for sharing your experiences. I would be grateful for advice on the relationship, if any, between the onset of fatigue and reduction in predistone dose. Starting on 15mg I am down to 9mg with no flare ups but I am just beginning to feel short lived bouts of fatigue . I am due to go down to 8mg and have an appointment with my doctor on Friday. Do you know if I go ahead with reduction will fatigue increase or will it even out if I stay on 9mg for a little longer. Or is it just best to try lower dose and see what happens? This is a baffling and tedious journey but "I am here to tell the tale" which is always my own way of reminding myself that I have an enormous amount for which to be grateful.
Thank you all again and my heartfelt wishes for recovery for those of you who are having a bad time.
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BettyE Frit
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I remember taking a sheet of A4 to my GP with things like fatigue, mild panic, niggling aches, depression,Prednisolone, muscle weakness, sleeplessness and probably most of the other symptoms that crop up on here regularly. I said to him that if this was a flow chart where would I begin and which direction would I take. He said he really couldn't answer. Your baffling tedious journey just about fits the bill.
I've been "cured" for over four years now and my recovery was full of surprises and no recognisable pattern.
I was fortunate with my GP who did not dictate and trusted me to manage my own dose as long as long I kept careful records. Once below 10 there were many ups and downs and I know that has been a common experience. I remember having to stay on 5 for three months and my energy levels fluctuated all the time.
Right near the end I had a hip replacement and one of the lovely surprises was finding that my 1 mg. of pred. saw me through. I had dreaded a set back. There just is no foretelling. As so many on here are always saying.... listen to yourself. Best of luck.
sandy65909 Frit
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Gratitude saves us and humbles us to accept the fact that PMR has a mind of it's own, symptoms and side effects constantly change and progress is not linear. We can be thankful for the experience and advise of others on the forum to make life as comfortable as possible. Flexibility is one of the many lessons of our unwanted condition. We look forward to remission when ever it shows up.
Best advice is to be gentle and indulgent with yourself, give up putting others first and slow down. Adjustment is a bear and takes patience. Prednisone has taken mine away so I must consciously work on retrieving what I actually never had to begin with!
Stay plugged into friends who share this experience.
celia14153 sandy65909
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Love retrieving what you never had in the first place - and you are so right that this is not a linear process. That realisation takes away the hex. Trial and error but maintaining minimal pain so that you give your body a chance. It's not a race, there's no 'right' way, with small adjustments so that our poor bodies don't go into shock. Onwards and upwards my fellow patient warriors..😀😘
Kassiebeetle Frit
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Hello Frit, I have been on Pred for over 4 years now. Fatigue has always been an issue with me but others not so much. One of the contributing factors seems to be our level of activity. Have you been pushing yourself lately? Doing some extra things because you have felt OK? Today I got up and felt like I could conquer the world. I did washing then spent a considerable amount of time on the phone trying to sort out an issue I had with one of the public hospital administration areas being accused of giving them incorrect information when in fact I was trying to give the correct info but they kept talking over me. NOT LISTENING!!!! I am telling you this because after lunch this sudden onset of tiredness hit me like a ton of bricks. I sat down in my lovely recliner and promptly went to sleep for 2 hours. I fall asleep in the chair very frequently now and this is one of the hardest things I have had to come to terms with. I was a very active person. Worked as a Nurse used to do double shifts no worries. PMR hit and my life changed completely. PMR appears to affect others differently as well as similarly. No rhyme or reason I guess we need to be aware that it may throw us a curve ball from time to time. I think it is always a good thing to discuss with our GP's any changes just to make sure that some other issue not related to PMR may be happening. You could reduce the Pred and see what happens. You can always increase it if things go belly up. You take care and keep us posted and yes this is a life saving forum for many of us. I was off line for a long time due to internet service issues when I moved from Brisbane to the country. Now I am back on line and am so grateful for the support that I get. Cheers
celia14153 Kassiebeetle
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EileenH Frit
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To have got from 15 to 9 mg since April is pretty good going so if you feel you need to slow down a bit you shouldn't worry about it. The others have said it all really - we are all different.
What it could be though is that you are feeling better and doing more just at a point where the initiall energy-boost some people get from moderate dose pred is wearing off.
Some people only absorb about half of the pred they take - and if your adrenal glands had accepted a chance for a holiday in those 4 or 5 months they may not be topping up your dose of pred now it is below 10mg and possibly less than what is called the physiological dose - the amount of natural corticosteroid the body produces anyway and which is essential for feeling and functioning well. If that is the case then, yes, you may well feel more fatigued when you reduce again. But no-one can know until you try.
From here don't ever try to reduce more than 1mg at a time, you may find 1/2mg easier and more comfortable. Every time you change the dose your body has to adjust. So changing too much or too often will have a greater effect on you. Then there is the Dead Slow approach - spreading the change in dose over a month, not going from every day old dose to every day new dose all at once.
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/reducing-pred-dead-slow-and-nearly-stop-method-531439
I'm so sorry you had a doom-and-gloom merchant around in the early days - had she actually had PMR herself? Is that why you called yourself Frit?
Frit EileenH
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Thank you Eileen for your informative and very helpful advice - I now understand much more what is happening to my body and this topsy, turvy journey. My lovely GP has me on 1mg reduction at 4 week intervals and on my 4th day of 8mg at present. Sleep still only about 5 hours and does not seem to be affected by whatever time I go to bed! I was one of the lucky ones with cancer some 17 years ago - one of my coping techniques was to call my tumour Mr B ......rd and to do battle with him - PMR is the new enemy! Frit , would you believe was my nickname at school - I am now grateful to my "doom and gloom" friend as her reaction prompted me to join this forum. Trust your own journey is on an even keel right now .
Anhaga Frit
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Your reduction is similar to what I did two years ago. The fatigue didn't hit me until 7 mg but the pattern is the same. At this point go very slowly because your adrenal glands need to start pulling their weight again, and that can take a while. Taking more pred won't help, just delay the inevitable. Only increase pred if have to deal with pain. It will get better. Patience is the key, and remember you still have a significant disease.
Michdonn Frit
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Frit, I get a little fatigue from time to time, I think we all do. But I use the DSNS method of reduction. And will stay on a level till I feel good, I will not reduce if I have any PMR pain. EileenH has posted the link to DSNS, I would advise using DSNS. Good luck on your journey, think positive and try to smile. Smiling 🙂