About to be diagnosed
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Hi all, new here.
My 65 yo brother is about to be officially diagnosed with pc. He had been getting up in the night to pee for quite a while and his psa was tested at 4.5. However his next test went up to 6 and a DRE today was hard on both sides. So it seems we know what it is already. Would this be why he has been booked for an MRI and not a biopsy, because they are expected it to have spread? So worried, feel sick for him.
Thanks for reading.
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john47646 Coconut1
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Coconut1 john47646
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barney34567 Coconut1
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1. The MRI is most likely not a full body scan but a scan of the prostate alone to see if there is any suspicious areas which may be cancer. They may also not be cancer;
2. My MRI did not include an endorectal coil and if you can find a facility where such a coil is not used and the radiologist is highly skilled in reading prostate scans, then go for it. Very skilled radiologists can obtain pictures without a coil which are as good as using a coil and a coil is very, very uncomfortable:
3. A MRI makes a lot of sense ahead of a biopsy for one fundamental reason: if anything is supsicous on the MRI then the biopsy can be a "MR guided ultrasound biopsy " where the needles are guided by the MRI to target the tumors perfectly, rather than the standard biopsy where a dozen or so needles are fired to determine if there is cancer in the organ;
4. Don't forget in some cases the biopsy is performed under general anaesthesia; and
5. Until a biopsy confirms or denies the presence of PCa, we are guessing. After all, getting up at night to pee could be symptomatic of an infection. And a PSA rising 50%, in how long a period? Isn't definitive.
in short I wouldn't stress if I were you. There is nothing to gain by doing that. At this point I would look forward to the MRI and be sure to book only a MR guided biopsy. There is a lot in the literature that supports the claim that such a biopsy is the better type.
good luck to your brother.
Coconut1 barney34567
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stewarta barney34567
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Rest easy ... it may not be needed. But never rely on PSA for reasons you don't need to think about now.
john47646 Coconut1
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barney34567 john47646
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That said, it is my understanding that the pca3 urine test is a very good alternative when a follow up biopsy is scheduled.
But there is no consensus that a pca 3 test is better than an initial biopsy for one simple reason: the result may be a low pca3 reading while the cancer is aggressive.
viet78904 Coconut1
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To summarize if one needs a MRI:
1. A DCE MRI with & without contrast, and
2. 3T Machine (search the web if one does not know the diff between 1.5T & 3T).
Coconut1 viet78904
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barney34567 viet78904
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also remember that some people who have implants cannot undergo a 3T given the very strong magnetic field it produces.
viet78904 barney34567
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viet78904 barney34567
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You must let the technician know what condition you have before the MRI.
barney34567 viet78904
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But that is where the urologist comes in.
in most cases a highly experienced urologist would recommend a scan to be reported on by Dr so and so and would tell you the facility where that radiologist works.
barney34567 viet78904
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