Acid getting worse

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I expect this is just repeating what others have asked but here goes; I have been on Lanzo and Ranit for some time now and until recently its reduced the acid in my stomach but now the acid is getting worse and its causing me to wake up during the night.

Even though as suggested I have raised our bed head. I even brought the special pillow but it was no good as I sleep on my side with my arm under my head so I sent it back.

I have been diagnosed with a Hiatus Hernia but I would prefer not to have an operation as by what I have read a lot of them do not work.

Not that I have a choice because I am sure our medical practice is loathe to suggest I have an Op because of the cost.

Whether its because of the medicines I am on I dont know but I now seem to have a problem with one of my kidneys asI am producing a high level of creatinine and I have been told to reduce the amount of exercise I do to alleviate this. Given Ilike to cycle swim or run thats another real pain.

So can I ask whether anyone ashad the same experience and if they have is there anything I can take not necessarilly medicine that I could take to reduce the acid.

I did start to take cider apple vinegar but stopped as I readthat it was not advisable with my kidney problem.

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    If acid is your problem, PPIs would help.

    If it's reflux that's the problem, lifestyle modification may work. (PPIs just make the reflux less dangerous. )

    If lifestyle modification isn't working, surgery is the option. I don't know where you read that a lot of them don't work. A study published in Surgical Endoscopy in 2014 reviewed the durability of Laparoscopic Fundoplication over 20 years and concluded, "Long-term results from the early experience with LF are excellent with 94 % of patients reporting only occasional or fewer reflux symptoms at 20-year follow-up."

    You'll find this linked to from the "Nissen fundoplication section of the fundoplication chapter in the reflux section of the free book / webiste, www DownWithAcid org uk

    There have been studies that show LNF may well be cheaper than lifetime PPI. It's certainly available on NHS (where I had mine done) .

    "Alternatives" like ACV won't reduce reflux.

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      Thanks Barretts as I said I think an operation is not an option as our health authority have recently been reprimanded and like most authorities it seem that they have limited funding but your stats concerning successful LF ops will inspire to press for an op if I dont get any improvement by using the PPIs.
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    HI have you tried taking gaiscon before you lie down at night also don't drink or eat anything for at least two hours before going to bed and eat a healthy diet

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      Thanks Gillian I am actually avoiding eating or drinking anything 4 hours before I go to bed but stillgeeting acid during the night.

      Last night I even slept in a single bed raised by 6" but I had the worse night ever and actually thought of going up to our A & E but realised they could not do anything to help me so  they didnt need ne to add to their work load.

      mick20498 thanks for reply that was however deleted.

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    In my early fifties I was initially & correctly diagnosed with a Hiatus Hernia being the cause of significant reflux, and put on various antacid drugs which quickly proved to be of no benefit. It was at that point that I sought a surgical solution as the only alternative for what was for me a very distressing illness. Over the next 5 years I pursued that Nissen Fundoplication with visits to one consultant after another (part of a full total of 66 medical appointments) but each dismissed my symptoms as 'unproven' making me feel like a complete fraud. My own GP practice, too, were hopeless and increasingly rather insulting. The problem, as I soon came to realise, is that subsequent 'opinions' are often nothing of the sort, rather they are simply protracted, empty exercises whereby one colleague seeks at all costs not to contradict the opinion of another colleague - a thoroughly dishonourable process which doctors themselves refer to as 'professional etiquette'. Yet in the circumstance I found myself I had no option other than to make a real nuisance of myself and 'plug away'. Eventally, 2 years ago, I managed to get an appointment at St Thomas' in London - known to be the UK's leading authority in gastroenterological matters - and whilst it certainly wasn't all plain sailing I did eventually receive testing & diagnosis which confirmed those very first findings, and in April last year underwent surgery. For me the outcome was a total success but as you rightly point out not all results are the same. So whilst I wouldn't, then, recommend a specific way forward for you (how could i?), I would certainly suggest that you ignore any opinion your own doctor has for surgery on the basis of cost - you are entitled to such treatment, and beyond that it is none of your GP's business - and at the very least insist on being given the opportunity to discuss your FULL options with a relevant senior physician. Incidently, St Thomas' isn't in my immediate NHS area but that was not a barrier to getting me there.

    Good luck. 

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      Phillip

      I should of added that it was at St Thomas I had the 24hr monitor fitted and I didnt realise that they were a leading authority on this.

      Yet again last night was hell so I went to the surgery this morning and fortunately a locum was on. I say fortunately because he unlike my normal doctors  took my blood pressure,checked my chest and heart has asked me to get a PH test kit from the pharmacy.

      I will certainly as you at to pursue getting it operated on if the Domeperidone he has added to my prescription doesnt. Ted

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    Hi i was just reading this, and this is my story also, went to my doctor and i am now waiting to see a specialist, but he also give me new tablets, and ive got such relief.

    Esomeprazole, i dont know if you have used them, but they are much stronger than the medication i had.

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      Thanks Ann I am trying not to but I think I will be going back to see  my doctor next week as it seegetting worse on a daily basis.
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    i know its not as solution but will prevent danmage hopefully help you feel better. you could take gaviscon at bed time i do this after a good drink as my body takes a few days to get back to normal otherwise i wake up like you do and suffer with sore chest when i breathe in mornings.
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      Thanks Richard. at the moment I am ensuring I dont eat or drink 3 - 4 hours before going to bed and about 30 minutes before going to bed I take a Ranatidine tablet and a Domperidine tablet. Even after that I have to take a swig of Gaviscon during the night.This is really proving to be a pain whats perhaps more worrying is this leading to somethig worse !
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