Acid reflux, gerd, help I have no idea??
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Back again I have gone from thinking I have uclers, to hernia to gerd I have no idea, for the past 3 months now, I have been having upper middle stomach pain, goes to chest . sometimes in neck, heart burn, bad indeigestion, feeling sick, feels like pain in my ribs, mostly after eating but sometimes when not eating, Feels like something is stuck in my chest area for a while then settles, pain n my breat all over chest area really, cant get comfty, so tired as not sleeping with it, had blood test, endoscopy, barium swallow water test all normal, recently been put on laporazole,been on then 2 weeks, not helping, can someone please help me, doctors have not said whet it is, they think it could be gerd but not said, I have also been constipated a lot and do have ibs, dotors are not helping any adive please.
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cheryl90571 ashwhisper
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Not sure I have much advice, but I sure can sympathize with all you are going through! I, too, am experiencing many strange symptoms!
Interestingly enough, mine STARTED following a colonoscopy and upper GI that they did when they found occult blood in my stool sample. Prior to these procedures I was FINE!
First of all, the preparation for the colonoscopy REALLY, REALLY irritated my stomach! I usually avoid citrus, so this time I used the cherry flavor, thinking it would be better. It wasn't better! Also, I am very careful to watch the amount of sodium I ingest because it makes me feel really bloated and increases my blood pressure. The prep REALLY was causing me LOTS of discomfort in my stomach but also in my whole upper GI tract.
Think "the cure is worse than the disease" old saying!
Anyway, I'm thinking that the prep for the procedure plus MAYBE some roughness by the doctor DURING the procedure MAY be causing the discomfort I am feeling NOW.
I get the heavy phlegm, the need to clear my throat OF that phlegm, burning, at times about halfway down inside my chest (esophagus?), a bloated feeling at times, pains in my stomach like I ate something BAD, two, sometimes three bowel movements a day which occur after eating, occasionally fast trips to the bathroom of diarrhea, pain in my gut which sometimes disappears after a bowel movement but not always.
Since I'm not confident of the doctor situation, I have not been back to see him. With the large number of people in his waiting room, I have this suspicion that the prep and subsequent procedures just MAY be providing him more patients which, in turn, may be providing him with more MONEY! My gut feelings are usually right, so I am trying to deal with my symptoms myself for now.
Hearing you tell of all your tests taken and them all coming back negative YET you still not feeling well further underlies my suspicion that it maybe is the PREP and PROCEDURES DONE that keep us feeling poorly and not just issues that are taking place in our bodies!
You didn't mention your age. I am 64 and recently had two total knee replacements (last June and October). I had been feeling really good UNTIL May when I had my colonoscopy and upper GI. Not lo g after that I had severe knee pain which took me back to my surgeon and then the two knee surgeries. This stomach thing started several weeks ago and felt a lot like a stomach virus and intestinal flu. My husband also had similar symptoms, so I thought MAYBE food poisoning or some food-related issue.
As you can see, I am all over the place with this!
I stopped drinking coffee yesterday, had oatmeal with yogurt and hot tea for breakfast, and had soup for lunch. I had a sandwich and a chocolate Frosty for dinner. I felt a bit better yesterday. I am going to have oatmeal and yogurt again today. I have heard both are very good for the GI tract.
I am going to stay away from coffee, tomato-based foods, soda, and any greasy food that may be causing issues.
When needed, I take antacids, and I am trying to drink more water.
I will let you know how it goes!
Wishing us BOTH some answers AND hoping we can figure this out very soon!
Stay in touch, OK?
ashwhisper cheryl90571
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cheryl90571 ashwhisper
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Paul brought up a good point about TRYING to stay calm, too! I know that when I am feeling bad I tend to get worried that I will soon feel worse. Then I DO feel worse! Trying to relax and getting my mind off my issues DOES help!
Take care! Looking forward to solving this with you!
thi20955 cheryl90571
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cheryl90571 thi20955
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Meanwhile, my oatmeal with fresh blueberries, staying away from coffee, no tomato anything, yogurt, plenty of water and hot tea have seemed to help these last two days.
I hope that you get some issues solved, too! Figuring everything out just EXHAUSTS me after having gone through TWO TOTAL KNEE REPLACEMENTS just a few months ago. Somehow you THINK you can finally catch a break, but that doesn't always happen.
thi20955 cheryl90571
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cheryl90571 thi20955
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My knees are doing good. I just had hoped to ENJOY them a bit before a new health issue reared its ugly head!
So far oatmeal is pretty good in my stomach. I added blueberries today, and still things were good. From what I can tell so far, COFFEE seems to be what REALLY sets off my stomach issues. This never used to be the case. Maybe it was the combination of some Mexican food I had on Sunday. I LOVE Mexican food! Never had any trouble with it. As we age, more and more foods seem to cause issues. I had hoped not to have that problem for a long while.
I hope you figure out foods that help you and learn which are trouble makers. It sure takes time to regulate everything!
I've never tried Nexium. I DO get relief from Pepcid. Bi-Carb is hard for me to get down. I think Alka-Seltzer is the same thing. Those two and Scotch all taste like sea water to me. Pass on all three!
Let me know if you find any other tips or good foods for the stomach. I'll keep experimenting!
paul38620 ashwhisper
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So sorry you are suffering. All that you describe, save for neck-pain, has been and is at times all that I experience with gastritis. That your various tests have not shown anything obviously nasty is good, though of course this does not end the awful difficulties you are experiencing.
To become naturally stressed and anxious through the pain and discomfort of these types of illnesses also adds its force to make the illness worse, so that a vicious circle ensues. So firstly do all that you can to cultivate calmness.
Over two years I have wrestled with my trouble, developing and learning through trial and error what harms and helps, and there has been improvement. But it is still a work in progress with variations of discomfort and setbacks, and will likely to be an issue life-long now. But who knows?
The measures I adhere to are below, and maybe you will gain some improvemennt as well if you try them. You can also read the ways and tips of other sufferers and Barretts' suggestions at the Down With Acid site. But time, patience and calmness are needed, for there aren't really any quick fixes for these troubles, except when they are due to things which can be put right by antibiotics, surgery, etc. I wish you well.
Several small/medium meals per day (I have seven medium, one every two hours or so), rather than fewer bigger ones, so you don't overfill your stomach. Eat relaxed, chew well. Be sat upright for and after meals, not bent or reclining, so you don't squash your stomach and press its contents upwards.
Fried foods, high-fat foods/meats, dairy, high-salt foods, spicy-hot foods, tomatoes, carbonated drinks, caffeine, alcohol and chocolate can all impact on stomach and reflux troubles for some people, so personal experimentation is key. Minty foods relax the lower oesophageal muscle which can let acid up easier, so they are bad. I use a fruity toothpaste, and strawberry gaviscon tablest for the now only occasional acid burn.
Wholewheat bread, cereals, bananas, hardboiled eggs are a few of the foods that suit me, but there are pulses, rice, various beans (not kidney beans apparently) and many other things to try. Chicken is one of the best meats due to its lower fat content, though even that can hit me and is not eaten lately.
Stress, excercise and bending activity that pressure and squeeze the stomach are also to be avoided. Be as calm and stress-free as you can.
Having your last meal a few hours before bed can prevent or lessen reflux at night, but I found that waiting to be too empty caused hunger discomfort and kept me awake. Because of this I lie-down about an hour and a half to two hours after last meal, and this is much better. I lie raised a bit on three pillows, on my right side, which is best for me, though the left side is usually recommended. Other people raise the bed-head itself about 6 to 8 inches.
Another thing that helps me greatly is to not burp after ten minutes after eating, as this can bring acid up and cause heartburn.
ashwhisper paul38620
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paul38620 ashwhisper
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The what-to-eat matter is a trial and error thing, but aiming for bland foods first, avoiding the common troublemakers, and then going from there over time is what I did, with simple wholewheat sandwhiches, hard-boiled eggs (3 a day), chicken pieces, bananas (3 a day) and wholewheat cereals as my main things, then adding or trying others one at a time. Even now my diet is mainly of these foods, but with certain fruits, honey, rice cakes, etc as well, for when you gain any improvement and lessening of pain/discomfort, you instinctively cling tightly to the foods that don't upset you. Having said that, overdoing one of my food trials set me back so that I lost six pounds of weight I'd gained. The dietician said I could try Fortisip nutrition drinks, so they are a tasty help to me too at the moment. It can be a slow process, Ash, a journey with one step at a time.
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thi20955 ashwhisper
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As a single Mum too I understand your stress level. My question is ater you do endoscopy then you do barrium test or vice versa? Thanks . The new specialist suggest me to do it if they found nothing on my PH test. I left him to go back to my old one.
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