Adult suvivors of Rhesus Haemolytic Disease
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I agree that there is very little information about this condition. I was born with it and apparantly spent 2 months in an incubator. I would like more information on possible life long problems as a consequence of having this disease in infancy.
I am 34 and have suffered all my life with low immunity, fatigue depression and anxiety and general ME like symptoms. I suspect there is a connection.
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douglas16177 Guest
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Just wondering how many here have Lyme Disease?
I am like a lot of people on this blog, many problems. At birth i had seven ET. My parent where told i would not live but I guess the big guy had other plans for me; I wish he would let me in on them some day. I have talked to many RH survivors and we all agree on one thing, We have many problems. From the trauma at birth to the physical damage from the toxin build up in the blood. We where only babies that where not developed and this happens, why would anybody think there would not be any damage. I was told i was lucky to live, i disagree, they should have let me die; like God intended.
vicki84913 douglas16177
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I believe that, even though there is no money in it for them, some people are spending their time & trying to learn from us. We were a real-life experiment for a couple decades. Technology has advanced to the point where test results could tell things about brain function. If only they will look beyond pharmacology for symptoms. I hope all of us put RH Hemolytic Disease on our medical records to increase awareness of possible links to current health issues. I was healthy (except for hearing loss & enamel problems with primary teeth) until age 29 when I got dystonia; I never mentioned HDNB on medical records. But now I realize that it is important. I may have spoken to you on another forum. If I am correct; I learned things from you. In my mind, you are serving a valuable purpose.
vicki84913 Guest
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I am fairly new to this discussion. So, I want to provide some details. If anyone here survived RH Hemolytic disease & also has dystonia, I am interested in their experience. Here is my story:
I was born in 1950, the 4th of 5 children born to an RH-mother and an RH+ father. I almost died at birth & had exchange transfusions. My naval collapsed, so I have several scars where the doctors were eventually successful in exchanging my blood. I have had hearing loss since birth. Also, I have had dental enamel issues with my primary teeth as a child. Other than that I was healthy as a child. Very active.
At age 29, in 1980, I was working as a grocery checker. The cash registers were set up like 10-key adding machines in those days so grocery checking was a repetitive movement with a fixed position of the head—now they use scanners, so it is less, or no longer a problem. Anyway, at age 29, I developed spasmodic torticollis (information is also found under the name Cervical dystonia). It is a movement disorder—a form of dystonia, believed to involve the basal ganglia part of the brain. I was told by my doctor that I would have the condition for the rest of my life.
After leaving that job, I was able to eventually gradually recover from the condition over the next 7 years. Then in 2011, I was working at a job where I did a lot of typing (with my head fixed in the same position as the grocery checker job) during the day & also had a project going on at home—nailing hardwood floor in my house, which also required the same fixed position of my head. So, lots & lots of time doing repetitive movements with my head fixed in the same position. The spasmodic torticollis came back in 2011—after a 25 year remission.
It has been another 7 years since then and I am experiencing the same path to recovery that I experienced from 1980-1987. I have come across articles linking RH hemolytic disease to kernicterus. I am not a medical professional. I have read that the blood-brain barrier is not fully developed in a newborn. RH hemolytic disease results in jaundice & very elevated levels of bilirubin in the newborn. The excess Bilirubin, which is a neurotoxin, deposits in body tissues and also crosses the blood-brain barrier & is deposited in the basal ganglia area of the brain.
They need to do exchange transfusions over a longer period of time than would be involved in a regular transfusion because the bilirubin is deposited in tissues & it is only able to be removed in a slower process. Autopsies have been done on RH babies who have died & this area of the brain has been shown to be stained yellow from the bilirubin deposits. I believe kernicterus is related to choreoathetoid cerebral palsy. I found this medscape article: https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/974349-overview. I had to sign in to medscape in order to view it. It says this: The 2 major complications of hemolytic disease of the newborn are bilirubin encephalopathy (kernicterus) and late anemia of infancy. It also says: A high bilirubin production rate is thought to result in rapid transfer of bilirubin to tissue, causing high tissue load, in which case any small further increase has great potential to enter the brain. Because the total serum bilirubin represents not only bilirubin production but also distribution and elimination, it is not an absolute indicator of risk of kernicterus.
This Wikipedia link (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernicterus) says: Kernicterus is a bilirubin-induced brain dysfunction.
So, like I said, I was the 4th of 5 children. My older sister (#3) had to wear braces on her legs for about 1 year while she was learning to walk. Child #1 & #2 were OK. #5 also had exchange transfusions, but we had moved to LA county recently & she had access to better medical care.
In my case, I believe that my movement disorder/dystonia, is linked to the bilirubin deposits at birth in the basal ganglia part of my brain. I have spent a total of 14 years of my life recovering from spasmodic torticollis/dystonia. Currently, I am still struggling with it since it recurred in 2011, but am well on my way to recovering for the second time. I know one thing for sure—I cannot take on any projects that involve sustained, repetitive movements with my head in that position.
2BonnieBlue vicki84913
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Hello Vicki,
I'm relatively new to this group also. I have similar issues as you speak of, although maybe not exactly the same. I'm 58 years old and didn't know anything about Rh Disease until my Mother told me 8 years ago. I had just come home from the hospital where a muscle biopsy determined I had a muscle disease.
Sharon39454 Guest
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Hi, I was the 2nd child of a Negative mother and was born extremely sick with anemia and given a blood transfusion at 5 days, I have read that the antibodies continue to damage the red blood cells for months after birth. This is an article I can across about in vitro transfusions, but it comments on damage done due to anemia - I have just had another cholesterol test and my Doctor has berated me for not taking Statins due to having 1.9 HDL and 6.3 LDL. My good cholesterol is always low. I will show her this article when next I visit
[b]https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/about/news-events-and-notices/news/news-2016/10/fetal-anaemia-transfusions-study-offers-heart-clues[b].html
I too was plagued with low energy and other problems throughout my life, maybe one day they will put it all together.
Sharon
linda35035 Guest
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Hi, I am new to this conversation as well and I was born in 1960. My mother was Rh negative and I am the middle child. I have has muscle issue my adult life that no one could ever figure out and still can't. I have other promblems also fatigue has always been one. Can this be diagnosed on me now to see if this is the answer to many problems I have! I also am very vitamin difficient.please help
2BonnieBlue linda35035
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Hello Linda,
I'm new to this group also. You and I have a few things in common. I, like you, was born in 1960 to an Rh Negative Mother. I was diagnosed with a muscle disease 8 years ago. My Vitamin D level is now much improved, but at the time of my diagnoses of the muscle disease, my Vitamin D level was a 9. You asked the question, "Can this be diagnosed?" And I'm writing you today to tell you that yes, it is very possible that it can be diagnosed. Write me back please, and I'll share with you how.
We're all in this together. Cheering you on from afar
Berty14567 Guest
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I’m a rh survivor.
Was severely anaemic when born
Had iron.
Late talker. Early to sit up.
Mum is rh and dad abpos.
I’m b+.
Struggled with school fitting in etc.
Rolling on to now.
45yo On adhd meds.
Sensory processing disorder.
Obsessive compulsive
Rejection sensitive dysphoria
Discalculia
Synesthesia
Emotional hyperarousal.
Eidetic memory.
Severe anxiety periodically.
I’m life I’ve had bouts of satisfaction and success.
Coupled shortly after with internalised failure issues.
Seem to keep on reinventing myself.
Hope to speak on here soon.
Bestwishes
douglas16177 Guest
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I personally think a lot of trauma we experienced at birth is being cared around in our bodies. I started to do tai chi 27 years ago and after starting I started to have nightmares. You might find this hard to believe but I remember them coming for me and taking me to the room they did the ET. I remembered the room, the sounds, the smells and even the nurse that came to got me. Like we haven’t gone though enough.
Nice to chat
Doug
2BonnieBlue douglas16177
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Hello Douglas,
I'm interested in Tai Chi. I'd love to hear more about your experience with it. Also, ... When you write of your thinking you would have been better off dying ....and your "Detachment from reality" Can you elaborate on what you mean?
In closing Douglas, Don't you think the fact that we survived against such odds, means we obviously have a calling on our lives and are here to fulfill a greater purpose?
Just thinking .... And wondering ....
Berty14567 douglas16177
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THanks for the speedy response.
I’m baby no3
Brother is baby one almost four years older than me.
Mum lost second one with complications heart brain etc.
Mum had rogan after me.
I had Anemia for a month after birth,
Was early to sit up late to talk speech therapy helped at age 3
My teeth are strong had no fillings till 20s strong bones.
Strong senses. But fail in attention . Additude online mag is a good scource of info.
Boots of low motivation meltdowns from anxiety.
Over years I’ve noticed cognitive impairment increased.
My kids tho have some of the other conditions listed by other people, daughter had shortened tendons leading to toe curling, corrected by surgery and a turned eye, glasses sorted this.
Both intelligent kids.
Winding forward to now.
I’m as strong as an ox and generous to all.
But feel I cannot trust, am over cautious.
Cbt and psychology is helping with this.
If I’m interested in something I embrace it and it becomes my life.
Or novelty can wear off and that’s it I do something else.
Failed relationships. I can write a book.
My current partner and mother to our kids is a star. But I know I’m a pain and difficult to live with.
Rarely sleep well.
Life can be a hassle.
And life can be awesome.
It’s finding the balance that becomes consistant that is tricky.
Striving for happier moments.
And focusing on what’s important.
More sunny days and hibernating in the winter.
I’m happy to discuss my life events. Anyone is welcome to contact me.
I’m here to help as much as I can.
I’m looking to raising money for charity at mo.
Love solving problems and baking cakes.
Best wishes to all.
It’s the sharing of life’s issues that seem to be commonplace amongst us that is interesting.
B+
Berty14567 douglas16177
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I remember everything!
From being fed and being pushed in s pram at 8 months old.
Dates worked out with mums help and photos.
The meds help sift off the extra memory flows to let me concentrate now.
I feel more of a survivor than a victim.
Superhuman at times and crushing lows at others.
B+
douglas16177 Guest
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Tai Chi
I started tai chi in 1991 after many years of ill health. In a very short period of time I noticed a general increase in my health and I knew this was a tool I could use to help me fight. So I started my own little war on ill health. I cannot say enough on what tai chi has done for me. Is it the end all to my problems, no but at least I can fight. When I do Tai Chi all my problems go away, I am strong, the fog lifts and my body is no longer a burden but something that I can enjoy and be at peace with. Sometimes I think I was given a gift because the joy I get out of life sometimes. I have concurred an illness that should have killed me a long time ago. People have looked at me with such judgment but I can honestly say that not too many could have risen above the odds and lived as long as I have. Yes I have crawled into a hole and hide from the world, do you blame me?
I guess all of us have learnt our own way to deal with this illness and it is an illness that we are born into. Day one is only the beginning of a very long arduous journey.
Thanks Bonnie
Doug
2BonnieBlue douglas16177
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Douglas,
You speak of feelings and experiences I have felt but have never put to words or paper. I thank you for your courage and willingness to share.
I've struggled with my health and my energy all my life while my Rh negative Mother has enormous energy and good health but an admitted weakness in being around anyone with health issues. The fact that I was 50 years old before she ever told me of the Rh Incompatibility issue at my birth and her saying it was something she and my Father never wanted me to know about, says ..... Well,... I'm not sure what it says. The reason she told me when she did was I had just come home from the hospital where they had diagnosed me with a muscle disease. She was very uncomfortable and couldn't wait to leave and she's remained distant ever since. I certainly do not hold it against her but there's obviously been unbeknownst to me, a "stigma"
I'm grateful for your sharing your thoughts as it helps me in identifying my own history and how this has been at the root of it.
I'm going to start a new discussion thread by posting a youtube video I watched today. You may have seen it already. I look forward to your comments on it.
I'm off now to see if I can figure out how to start a new discussion thread....
PS. Have you ever thought of making your own youtube video about your experiences with Tai Chi? I'd be very interested in it and I'd like to continue to hear more from you about it. I'd like to try it, if my muscles are strong enough.
Don't forget Douglas .... We're all in this together. Cheering you on from afar
"Never give up. Have hope and faith till the day you die"
douglas16177 2BonnieBlue
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