advice needed esa wrag help

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Hello This is my first post so please bare with me.

I was awarded Esa approx 6 months ago after a fight appeal and tribunal, i was also awarded Pip after a face to face assesment which was horrific for me i cried and shaked my way through it. I suffer with extreme anxiety and depression it has not been given a proper name but i think its more a social phobia and possibly PTSD but im know doctor. Anyway i am in the wrag group and i have recently had a letter from job centre asking me to attend interview i wrote to them with a copy of my tribunal letter where it states i have difficulty going out and dealing with people and strangers it causes me extreme anxiety. Well the lady from local jc called me and was a little rude in my opinion telling me i have to attend as the letter only says i have difficulty going out and not that i cant go out, i proceeded to have a panic attack while trying to talk toher on the phone she eventually said she would leave me until feb but i must make the effort to get better as i have to attend.

my question is can i ask to go in to support group and being awarded pip would that count as additional evidence to help change my group also i have hypothyroidism which i have never used in my claim would that help. I hope that makes sence and thankyou in advance xx

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    It is not just a question of asking the DWP to put you in the Support Group. You have prove that you meet one or more of the Support Group descriptors.

    Support group descriptors

    Qualifying for the support group of employment and support allowance (ESA)is not about scoring points.  Instead, if the decision maker accepts that any of the following descriptors apply to you, then you will be placed in the support group.

    1.  Mobilising unaided by another person with or without a walking stick, manual wheelchair or other aid if such aid can reasonably be used.

    Cannot either

     (i)  mobilise more than 50 metres on level ground without stopping in order to avoid significant discomfort or exhaustion 

    or

    (ii)  repeatedly mobilise 50 metres within a reasonable timescale because of significant discomfort or exhaustion.

     2.  Transferring from one seated position to another.

    Cannot move between one seated position and another seated position located next to one another without receiving physical assistance from another person.

    3.  Reaching.

    Cannot raise either arm as if to put something in the top pocket of a coat or jacket.

    4. Picking up and moving or transferring by the use of the upper body and arms (excluding standing, sitting, bending or kneeling and all other activities specified in this Schedule).

    Cannot pick up and move a 0.5 litre carton full of liquid. 

    5. Manual dexterity.

    Cannot either:

    (a) press a button, such as a telephone keypad or;

    (b) turn the pages of a book

    with either hand.

    6. Making self understood through speaking, writing, typing, or other means normally used.

    Cannot convey a simple message, such as the presence of a hazard.

    7. Understanding communication by— 

    (a) verbal means (such as hearing or lip reading) alone,

    (b) non-verbal means (such as reading 16 point print or Braille) alone, or

    (c) a combination of (a) and (b), 

    using any aid that is normally, or could reasonably be, used, unaided by another person.

    Cannot understand a simple message due to sensory impairment, such as the location of a fire escape.

    8. Absence or loss of control whilst conscious leading to extensive evacuation of the bowel and/or bladder, other than enuresis (bed-wetting), despite the wearing or use of any aids or adaptations which are normally, or could reasonably be, worn or used.

    At least once a week experiences 

    (i) loss of control leading to extensive evacuation of the bowel and/or voiding of the bladder; or

    (ii) substantial leakage of the contents of a collecting device;

    sufficient to require cleaning and a change in clothing.

    9.  Learning tasks.

    (a) Cannot learn how to complete a simple task, such as setting an alarm clock, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.

    10. Awareness of everyday hazards (such as boiling water or sharp objects).

    (a) Reduced awareness of everyday hazards leads to a significant risk of:  

    (i) injury to self or others; or

    (ii) damage to property or possessions,

    such that they require supervision for the majority of the time to maintain safety.

    11. Initiating and completing personal action (which means planning, organisation, problem solving, prioritising or switching tasks).

    Cannot, due to impaired mental function, reliably initiate or complete at least 2 sequential personal actions.  

    12. Coping with change.

    (a) Cannot cope with any change, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder, to the extent that day to day life cannot be managed.  

    13. Coping with social engagement due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.

    Engagement in social contact is always precluded due to difficulty relating to others or significant distress experienced by the individual. 

    14. Appropriateness of behaviour with other people, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.

    Has, on a daily basis, uncontrollable episodes of aggressive or disinhibited behaviour that would be unreasonable in any workplace. 

    15.  Conveying food or drink to the mouth.

    (a) Cannot convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without receiving physical assistance from someone else;

    (b) Cannot convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without repeatedly stopping, experiencing breathlessness or severe discomfort;

    (c) Cannot convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without receiving regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s physical presence; or

    (d) Owing to a severe disorder of mood or behaviour, fails to 

    convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without receiving —

    (i) physical assistance from someone else; or

    (ii) regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s presence.

    16.  Chewing or swallowing food or drink.

    (a) Cannot chew or swallow food or drink; 

    (b) Cannot chew or swallow food or drink without repeatedly stopping, experiencing breathlessness or severe discomfort;

    (c) Cannot chew or swallow food or drink without repeatedly receiving regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s presence; or

    (d) Owing to a severe disorder of mood or behaviour, fails to—

    (i) chew or swallow food or drink; or

    (ii) chew or swallow food or drink without regular prompting given by another person in the physical presence of the claimant.

    • Posted

      Get medical,social services and/or pyschiatric reports that support your argument and send them in to the DWP.

      Saying that you do is a whole world away from proving that you do.

      I claimed under those two and more besides. My evidence came from the GP, Social Services assessment and the CMHT backed up with copies of the hospital orders (sectioned) and police reports (I attacked a complete stranger in Boots simply because his voice triggered fight or flight).

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      Thank you... i have medical back up from my gp as for psychiatric back up i have an appointment due in a few weeks i am scared that after fighting for what i have now, i could risk loosing it all as ive heard when reassesing they can take it all off me
    • Posted

      In theory Beverley your ESA could be stopped if the claim is looked at again.

      However, there would have to be compelling evidence for the decision maker to take such drastic action and on the face of it your case doesn't appear to be one of those as you have strong evidence.

      Unfortuately you do have to ask the DWP to be put in the Support Group there is no other way of doing it. I understand your concerns and you are in a difficult situation as you can’t even attend a CAB for extra support due to your condition.

      You have to be strong and take the leap of faith

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