After 17 months of (self-inflicted?) agony, just feel utterly hopeless

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This is my story, as brief as I can.  Sorry of it goes on.

I am a 46 year old gay man.

I have always had a somewhat anxious - though not depressed - nature, and developed some phobias over time, in particular of heights and driving or being a front-seat passenger on fast-roads.  Both phobias developed after unpleasant real-life experiences (an actual near-death fall from great height and a car accident).

I met the love of my life in 2002, but the (long-distance) relationship ended in 2010 as I was chatting to other guys online for company when we were apart.

I coped with the break-up at the time and encouraged him to meet others, but it hit-hard when I knew he was with someone else last year.

I took voluntary redundancy (jumped before I was pushed) in 2012 and it was a a weight-off my shoulders at the time and for upto a year after.

I went travelling and did an English-teaching course in Budapest in 2013.

Two years ago, my mum was diagnosed with dementia.  I coped with this at the time, too.

Then I had a major health scare 17 months ago: I thought I had contracted HIV.

Everything changed with that .... first I developed severe insomnia, then severe anxiety, then severe depression, then suicidal ideations.

My coping mechanism for the other negative life-events vanised with that.  (It turned-out I do not have HIV.)

I have been in a psychiatric hospital for prolonged periods twice, been to A&E due to suicidal ideations numerous times, and see a psychiatrist and CPN regularly.

I am on Mirtazapine, Quetiapine and Pregablin.  I am also on Zopliclone for sleep, but it has stopped working. 

In October this year, I went on two separate alcohol drinking binges which both times landed me in medical hospital wards.  I just wanted to blank-out the pain.

I have my own house (that's where the drinking binges took place) but now hate it.  I am back living with my parents for the time being.

My mum can't take-in my condition (due to her own), and my dad does not 'get' depression.  He is sympathetic, but tells me to "move on".

Two weekends ago, I landed at the nearest A&E again with panic and then suicial thoughts while I was there.  I was dismissed as not-quite an attention-seeker, but in all but name, by a member of the of mental health crisis team. Despondent, I went home and took a week's worth of my psychiatric meds (including Zopiclone) on the Friday evening.  I did so as I sobbed and shook.  I didn't want to kill myself, just didn't want to feel any more pain.  I came-round on the Saturday lunchtime.  My parents did not realise what I had done.

I am fixated by all kinds of 'what-ifs'.  These involve poentially harmful things like the sharp knives in the kitchen, neck-ties, going-out and possibly walking into moving traffic, etc, etc, as I don't feel in-control.  In reality, I have never intentionally physically (or mentally) harmed anyone in my life, so these thoughts and images are immensely troubling.

I don't want to die, but I can't have my OLD life back (partner, healthy parents, job, etc), and am terrified by the present and future.

I am scared and I don't know what to do (or what I will do).

Can anyone help?

Sorry for the ramble ....

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  • Posted

    Hiya......It sounds as though you've been through a traumatic series of life events.Life is soooo tough at times,let alone for people who suffer from our dreadful illness.Many times I have felt (and still do) utterly paralysed by terror of the present and of the future,I can really relate.What has worked for me (medication is certainly a help)in the past has been talking to a (good) therapist.It is a tough call finding a competent one as the wrong therapist can add to one's problems.I can only suggest this or perhaps CBT?Unless you've gone down that road.You must have felt awful when you took all your tablets on Friday.Please try getting the right support,you seem to be pretty clued up as to what's happening and it would most likely be a huge help if you could talk it through with someone you trust as well as taking meds.....Hope you do feel better,sending love & good thoughts.Sally
  • Posted

    Hi, I'm really sorry to hear what you've been through, it sounds terrifying.  Please remember that it's this horrible illness making you feel like you do.  When you feel truly desperate please remember the Samaritans, just knowing they are there can be a comfort.  You need to be reassessed as your medications are clearly not doing their job.  Can you afford to see a psychiatrist privately just to get seen a bit quicker?

    There are other things you can do to help yourself but I think you need professional help first.  Please phone your doctor in the morning.  It doesn't appear that you have had a good experience with the medical professionals but you really must go back and speak to someone.

    Please be kind to yourself.  Take good care, I'm thinking of you x

  • Posted

    Hi Gnnir, i am sorry that you have been through some traumatic events in your life. Have you had any Counselling or CBT to help you through. Your parents are not the best people to talk to as they are to emotionally involved. I have had Counselling and talking therapies during my life and found it to be very helpful. I have suffered traumatic events including the suicide of my husband and a nephew and i can tell you that thou you cannot forget the bad things that have happened to us, we can learn to accept and cope with them. You do need help to get to this point thou. Medication can play a part but i do think you need to talk about how you feel in the right enviroment. Counselling is non judgemental and confidential so you have no need to worry on that score. Please seek help by first visiting your GP. Please keep talking here to as people can try and support you.

    Best wishes

    Elizabeth.

  • Posted

    Hi gnnir,

    Depression is a terribile condition and leaves you. feeling an emotional and physical wreck.

    Coming back from a bad bout of depression  is tough and takes alot of time.

    You have faced alot of challenges recently and any one of the issues you raised can leave you feeling down.

    You have a good grasp of what your problems are. Now you need to Focus on solutions and theres always a solution even if you cant see them now.

    Try not to Focus on your mistakes too much.We have all made those and some of mine have been cringe worthy !

    Take things day by day for now..even hour by hour if you need too.

    If you can get through one hour you can get through two and so on.

    Insomnia is not helping you either next time you cant sleep and your minds racing call the Samaritans they will listen to you without judgement or type in mindfulness to youtube.

    They have relaxation exercises that helped me in the grip of an anxiety attack.

    Take care of yourself and keep us informed on how your getting on

    Jo

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    Hi, I also find the mental health system lacking and do find them almost dismissive with the focus of their attention and resources on complex mental health conditions because of this.

    You did take a dangerous amount of pills and luckily you came around and whilst it wasn't your intention to kill yourself you did something that could have caused it or serious complications so you need to see your GP as an urgent appointment and tell him/her what happened, what you did and what you are still thinking and the "red flag" should go up and you get an urgent referral to mental health team.

    im frustrated by the system and I ask why I should contact a charity for tea and sympathy rather than the service I have paid into all my life to be treated for an illness. The lack of empathy from A&E who you thought could help you but made you feel quite the opposite is a negligent thing for them to have done and resulted in what you did next.

    You were seeking attention but in the right way and they dismissed your need for attention which is simply not good enough. 

    Did you feel in control when you took the pills or was the urge just too much to stop yourself, either way you need the right support and help and that doesn't come from a charity although ive heard SANE are good but I'd say again I don't pay my NI contributions to them so Id go to the people I pay to look after me when I'm ill and for when others are ill.

    Once you are over this crisis time and on a more even standing then that would be the right time to do some long term talking therapy, you could start earlier but the effectiveness will be limited as when the depression is severe its very difficult to take things in and concentrate or work on the issues.

    The mental health team need to put in place a care plan to help you and if that means admission then that's what is needed initially.

    Can I ask how you felt when in psychiatric care and how it helped you? 

    In the meantime go back to your GP you need more help and you deserve it.

     

    • Posted

      Thanks Aspinan.

      There are two psychiatric hospitals here in Belfast.  I was in one of them from mid-December 2013 to mid-March this year, and was put on a combination of meds and had 12 courses of ECT.  I felt much better just before and after my release, but relapsed a few weeks later.  I think reality simply dawned on me.

      I was admitted to the other psychiatric hospital in late-May for five weeks after breaking-down during an out-patient's appointment with a psychiatrist.  She saw how emotional I was and simply said there was a bed available and did I feel like I needed it. I didn't really feel any better when I left compared to when I went in, but don't recall any suicidal ideation again until August.  They have been common-place ever since.

      Bringing things up-to-date ...  On Friday 12 December, I took a panic attack and went to A&E.  It is walking distance from home.

      They ran some medical tests, and then I took another panic attack in the treatment area.  It was there that I suddenly felt strong and urgent feelings of cutting my wrists.

      I told one of the A&E doctors and he sent for the 'crisis team'.  It's complicated because the hospital and its 'crisis team' are not my trust's when it comes to mental health.

      Anyway, I was taken to the observation ward and a member of the 'crisis team' came, took me to a quiet area and that's when she made the "attention-seeking" remark and said I had no history of actually planning or attempting suicide, but I was an intelligent adult and if I chose to take my own life that would be my decision.  She said I was to be discharged.  She just came across as very blase / dismissive / heartless.

      I remember being very calm while this was going-on, and that disturbed me.  I told her that, but it made no difference.

      Before leaving the hospital, I had dinner in the observation ward and that's when I first put a knife (not a sharp one) to my wrist.  I don't think anyone saw me do so.  I felt sad and desperate.

      I then left the hospital and recalled that I was due to collect my weekly script for Mirtazapine / Quetiapine / Pregablin / Zopiclone from the chemist.  I did so, and remember the pharmacist talking to me but it was a blur.

      I took the meds from him and headed home.  I remember looking at the Christmas decorations in peoples' houses and it all felt very poignant.

      I bumped into my father just before reaching the house, went in and told he and my mother that I was very tired and going to bed.  I went to the bedroom and began taking the seven Zopliclone tablets and some of the others.

      I lay-down on the bed and the sweat was lashing-out of me.  I was weeping and I think I also prayed (something I have been doing a lot of: I am a believer, though not overly-religious).

      I don't remember anything else until lunchtime on Saturday when I woke-up on the settee in the living room.  I felt very tired and groggy, but I think I fell asleep again.

      I had these sudden, strong suicidal urges again at a computer class on Tuesday 16 December.

      I told my GP all of this when I saw him on Thursday 18 December and also my psychiatrist on Monday 22 December.  At my previous consulation with the psychiatrist at the end of November, I told him that I did not think I would see Christmas.

      Last week, the psychiatrist said he could contact 'Home Treatment' (there are so many branches in mental health!) and talk about hospital but it would be a backward steps as I need to confront my fears and get private CBT (I am on a long NHS waiting list for same).

      Both he and the GP said I should go to A&E if I felt in imminent danger of harming myself or others.  I think both are convinced that severe anxiety is driving these fears rather then severe depression.

      I collected my weekly script of meds on Christmas Eve and did not repeat the over-dosing.

      I think I was determined to make it through Christmas for the sake of my family.  Now, New Year is the target / monkey-on-my-back.

      I DO have severe depression, as well as severe anxiety, and the trouble is that it is all situational: trauman from the HIV scare, a broken heart, loneliness, worry about my parents, job prospects, phobias, etc, etc.

      These things may have caused a chemical imbalance in my brain, but they are concrete things and I don't see any way of breaking the cycle of despair.

      I told my dad about an hour ago that I was seriously worried that I will attempt to take my own life.  He took it quite calmly and simply replied that he would do anything for me.

      I really do not know what to do, because I know that I DO need to face the issues that are bothering me.  I just don't feel able to, even though I am actually in pretty-much the same position as I was two years ago: single, no job, ageing parents (and mum had just been diagnsed with dementia), etc, etc, and yet I felt quite content with life.  The HIV scare changed everything.  It almost feels like PTSD.

      Like I said, I just don't know what to do.

       

  • Posted

    No you don't ramble dear man, and oh I feel your poain.  I too have taken an overdose, but still here, but so low.  I feel for you so much.

    I can't help, but I want you to know I understand how you are feeling, and that life is so difficult.  Depression takes everything away from us.  OIh I am sorry if I am no help, I want to be.  I want to take away everyone's pain,I want so much to help. 

    We want our old life back, just like you do.  If only we had to power to turn back time, but we have to accept today, and it is so very hard.  I know you are scared, and I wish, so much, I could help, I really do.  I am in despair for you.  I want you to get your old life back, I want things to work out for you.  I am in tears for you, and for all of us. 

    What to do?  I wish I knew

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    The pain is just not easing and the morbid thoughts are simply not lifting.

    I have this feeling that my suicide is inevitable, but I have already said this to 'health professionals' and I just don't think my feelings are credible.  After all, people generally cope with break-ups, redundancy, ageing parents (and bereavements).

    I know I told my psychiatrist that I did not think I would see Christmas, and here I am on 29 December, but each day is getting harder.

    I get my repeat prescription (weekly meds) on New Year's Eve, and I have also ordered extra sleeping pills and Valium privately.

    I just don't know what I am going to do.

    • Posted

      Hey Sweetie..Please hang in there.The life events you've listed are the triggers for us...I have come so close to suicide via breakups...Bereavements are HUGE....I dread the next one,these are the things that have consequences for many of us.But please,please hang in there,you are worth so much.As Gillian said:we all need each other on here x x x
  • Posted

    Sounds like you had so much trauma. I like you and many others have gone thru traumas of my own. A divorce,loss of job.

    I am not sure I want my old life back. Don't get me wrong the are parts I miss. But I am life's biggest worrier. Always worried for others too.

    I think you need to change your life and reintroduce the best parts of your old life.

    I just found a group called Maytree 

    Sanctuary for the Suicidal in london who maybe able to help people in need

    • Posted

      Hi Jimmy:what a great find....Just took a brief look at Maytree and they sound fantastic.Thank you for posting this.
  • Posted

    While I have thought about my ex-partner on-and-off since he told me he had met someone else (special), I have become increasingly obsessive about this over the past few weeks: reading old e-mails between us, including the one from him that sealed our break-up pointed-out (quite accurately) the things I had done wrong, and seeing him and his new partner on Facebook.  I cannot get him out of my head and it is stopping me from fuinctioning and sleeping.

    I messed-up the relationship, but thought I was coping after we split-up: I continued to go to work and socialise, try to date, and slept normally, etc.  I also encouraged him to try to meet other guys because I didn't want him to be lonely.  He didn't even try to do this for nearly three years.

    I now think that I did not really want him to meet someone else because I continued to / continue to carry a torch for him and just know that he was in love with me and would have done anything for me.

    He has also gone from strength to strength in his job, whereas I am jobless and, I fear, unemployable because I am an emotional wreck.

    Yet, there is nothing I can do about this: I cannot get him back.

    This is feeding my anxiety and suicidal feelings more than anything else.

    • Posted

      Hi Gnnir, 

      It sounds like your really struggling. Its hard when people move on and  next to a bereavement its the most highly stressed situation. You got to find away ( and may be wtih help counselling ) to break the chains. What ever you do dont rush yourself as the pressure will only make it worse.

      If you have a plan of what you need to do you half way there, but like i say it can take time

       

    • Posted

      Depression took a lot away from me.  I lost a house because I lost a job because of depression and could not pay the mortgage, I lost a relationship, and then another because of depression.  I took an overdose.  I was in a psychiatric hospital.  Yes, like you, depression has taken away a lot from us. 

      Of course it hurts a lot to see your ex partner with someone else.  I lived with regret and guilt for about 30 years because depression made me leave a marriage.  I could not explain at the time what I felt, but now know it was depression.  I have struggled hard to accept I will always be alone now.  Have been alone for 30 years now.  Tried other relationships but depression ruined them all. 

      Like you, find it difficult to move on, but move on we must.  We can spend the rest of our lives regretting what has happened in the past, but we cannot change it.  Don't let this ruin the rest of your life.  I have struggled for over 30 years, and been as klow as can be.  I struggle, I battle,because life is worth living, if only we could see it. 

      You will come through this, I know, because I have done it.  I am not a strong person.  Do yoiu think you can keep going.  One day at a time.  I belonged to Depression Alliance for many years and their motto is "One Small Step At A Time."  You have great support here.  People who truly care about you.  Take strength from us.  We have felt in that deep dark hole too.  Can you lean on us, and keep posting here, and find the strength to go on?

      I worry so much about people here, and I care so much about you.  Please for my sake keep fighting. 

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