Age of diagnosis
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Hi, can anyone share with me what age they were when diagnosed with PMR? I am 52, specialist said I am too young for PMR and diagnosed me with PsA. My eye and jaw ache on a regular basis. Thanks.
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dee53012 annette25895
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Doctors have been known to be wrong MANY times! Sometimes we need to educate our doctors
Lindylulu annette25895
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I was diagnosed with GCA at the age of 56 and PMR 6 months later, although I had been quite ill for ay least 6 months before I saw a specialist, as my GP was convinced it was a viral infection even though my ESR was 80. All the best, lindy
linda38899 annette25895
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hello,
I am 55 and at 53 I was diagnosed with GCA- the doctor was not sure initially if it was GCA or Takayasu's arteritis. This form of vasculitis affects the larger arteries in the body, including the aorta. It typically occurs in young women. Signs and symptoms include a feeling of numbness or cold in the limbs, loss of pulse, high blood pressure, headaches, and visual changes. I was too old and too young. After the temporal artery biopsi, GCA became the diagnosis. When I went to my Opthalmologist and told him my diagnosis he said I did not, I was too young, and sorta argued with me, questioning how I came up with that diagnosis. He was astonished and said he had just recently been on a webinar about this disease and the take away for the doctors is that you dont have to look at young women for this because it only occurs after 70-. I know that your questions was about being diagnosed with PMR but PMR and GCA are closely related and often times if you have one you have the other.
I am not surprised, and I would definitely look at getting a second opinion. I went to 4 different doctors and it took 4 months before I was diagnosed and ended up in the hopsital for a week-
Hope this helps and keep us posted on your well being.
EileenH linda38899
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"he ... said he had just recently been on a webinar about this disease and the take away for the doctors is that you dont have to look at young women for this because it only occurs after 70"
You have just touched on something I had a minor paddy about earlier this week!
That is NOT what the guidelines say and we have fought a hard battle to get the age reduced from the 55 it was to 50 - so HOW on earth do the doctors get a take-away of 70 years of age? That is the AVERAGE age at diagnosis - since many are well OVER 70, that means there must be a lot UNDER 70.
I assume you are in the USA? No wonder that so many people struggle to be heard. I really didn't realise it was that bad...
lodgerUK_NE annette25895
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i) Evaluate for inclusion criteria
Core (essential):
. Age >50 years, duration >2 weeks
. Bilateral shoulder or pelvic girdle aching, or both
. Morning stiffness duration of >45 min
. Evidence of an acute-phase response (e.g. raised
ESR, CRP)
Extract from the BSR Guidelines on the Diagnosis and Treatment of Polymyalgia Rheumatica, issued this year by the British Society of Rheumatologists. You can find the whole of the guidelines on pmr gca uk north east website, the NHS website and the BSR website.
Suggest you download and take them to the specialist you saw and ask them to read up on PMR.
Patient Representatives on the guideline committee worked very hard to prove the case for people below the age of 65, never mind 60.
Statistics are done on bell curve, the average being the top of the curve, people fall down on either side, four or five people I know of with PMR are in their late 20's to below fifty. When everything else has been tested and showed zilch, then a dose of pred for one week - sharp tells them you have PMR regardless of age - if there is rapid improvement in a very short time - its PMR.
linda38899 annette25895
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EileenH linda38899
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linda38899 EileenH
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That is so ridiculous , but ok
Something to share with all of this community is that everyone I speak to and myself included share a common habit, we ignored certain symptoms because lilke me I thought " I am getting old" or it is the "change" or 'I am working too many hours", and when I looked back and connectd the dots, wow-this type of sharing is so valuable to help each other to recognize the problems and symptoms and get help.
EileenH linda38899
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Not so ridiculous - it saves you from an awful lot of very unpleasant trolling and spam. You wouldn't belive what could turn up without it. The moderator can't be around 24/7 - so the computer is a bit sensitive!
Yup - but also doctors think the same: that is what was said to me "What do you expect at your age". A whole 52! They haven't caught up with the fact that our generation is rather fitter than our mothers were and we also have far higher standards of what we expect to be able to do. They did accept it - and some of the reason for the increasing incidence of PMR is becausewe don't think that it is "normal aging" and object to the disability. It's particularly apparent when PMR appears with the sudden overnight onset - which some doctors still think is the usual manifestation. But there is also the creeping version - equally valid as an illness.
dee53012 linda38899
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It does not help that many doctors do not respect women and write up saying we are hypocondriacs, giving permission to the next doc to not listen as well. That has been my expercience anyway.
linda38899 EileenH
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The message I share with my patients is that you have to be your own advocate, If you do not get a good answer or respect from your md change.
Anhaga annette25895
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I was diagnosed at age 67, had been acutely suffering for over a year, so 65 at onset. However after all the reading I've done, and looking back over the years before this acute phase I definitely had something going on for many years. I'd always put it down to osteoarthritis, diagnosed at age 40, but interestingly since pred I have NONE of the pains I'd thought were osteoarthritis. There are osteo symptoms from time to time, but they are not like the generalized aches I'd had before. A classic symptom is "morning stiffness" which when I read that I thought was odd, how, I wondered, could this be a diagnostic symptom, because I was always stiff when I first got up. And, since pred, even at a low dose, this is no longer an issue for me. So, who knows? Was it PMR or another as yet undiagnosed inflammatory disease which also responded magically to pred?
EileenH Anhaga
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That's interesting Anhaga - I can remember getting up in the morning to go to the bathroom and I almost bounced off the walls getting there when I was in my early 40s. It was a lot worse once I got recognisable pMR symptoms but it was there long before. I thought it was normal.
What I did have at about 27 (pre-children) was what would nowadays be diagnosed as ME/CFS, which started typically with a viral infection and the extreme fatigue and weakness lasted for just over 6 months then slowly improved - but it was years before it really disappeared. I know a couple of others with almost identical stories.
Anhaga EileenH
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I always perceived myself as very healthy. Other than succumbing to colds when the children, little germ factories, were small and brought the colds home with them, I never got sick, and when the house was full of teens and adults and I was working (again in an environment with young children) years would go by and I'd never catch anything. Years would go by between doctor's visits, except to get a referral for physio.... Little did I know what was brewing.
Charlieschoc annette25895
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I also suffer from jaw pain and temple pain and have been checked twice now for gca.
I would ask for a second opinion if your not happy.
My diagnosis was on a second opinion visit xx