Am getting recurrent shingles and no idea what the cause is - fed up!

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Hi there, I'm a 27 year old female and am on my 4th shingles outbreak in just over 13 months. I am feeling quite low about this and frankly very fed up. I am looking for some advice on how to understand what my potential triggers are, coping strategies, ways in which to prevent further outbreaks and anything else you think could possibly help me, thank you. I'll now give you the history.

I had my first bout of shingles just over a year ago. It appeared on the upper half of my left buttock and tracked horizontally outwards to the distal side of my buttock. At first I thought it was a midgey bite but when the rash began to spread I knew something was wrong. I looked it up online (as you do) and was presented with three possibilites; impetigo, genital herpes or shingles.

I went to the GP who diagnosed shingles. Presentation was inconsistent with impetigo and genital herpes, especially as it was unilateral, localised, tracking a nerve and I have never had herpes 'down there'. It was after the 72 hour period to be able to effectively take antivirals, so I had to wait it out.

Approximately 3-4 months later I had another outbrek. Exacly the same presentation and symptoms. I think this was triggered by sunlight as I'd been sunbathing in my friends (secluded) garden with a thong on - oops. Went to GP who said that shingles categorically can not appear in the same place twice, and that this was likely a herpes infection of the skin. I was confused and asked, 'so like cold sores, or genital herpes?' He said neither, and that although it is rare, it is possible to get herpes infections of the skin. He prescribed me antivirals and gave me a swab to use if I ever had another outbreak.

6 months later and along came another episode in the same spot. I saw yet another GP who diagnosed shingles again. I asked him about the reoccurring in the same place conundrum, and he said that it can happen as it's the nerve that it's stored in and follows the same path, that it can spread but will usually follow the same path; much like cold sores. He gave me antivirals.

Now, almost 4 months later here I am again. Exact same spot again, albeit slight to the right. First cluster appeared more proximal to my buttock crack (sorry, for want of a better word/phrase). As it has been the bank holiday I phoned 111 and was prescribed antivirals again. This time however, they do not seem to be working as well. I have been on them for a little over 48 hours and usually they will have slowed down and will be calming. Throughout today a second cluster has appeared, following the nerve as before. Also, this outbreak is much more itchy than previous ones.

I wasn't particularly worried about this until the 111 GP sounded concerned and asked if this was being investigated. The answer to that is no. I have done some reading and seen that a poor immune system can be to blame, but I have a pretty average immune system. I'm not on chemo and I had my annual STD test last year just before all this started which included a test for HIV and all came back negative. I do have B12 Deficiency but am having 3 monthly injections for it so not sure if that's anything to do with it?

Over these episodes I am beginning to form a picture of when I'm about to have an outbreak and am quick to act on it now. The hardest and not always most identifiable sign is tiredness about a week before. As I said I'm B12 deficient and am a university student so can become fatigued quickly, so usually assume that this is why I'm tired. Then the day before an outbreak I have a very tender left labia (feelsa like someone has kicked me in the crotch) and a swollen gland in my left groin. Tender where your bottom meets your top of the back of the leg and a really tender spot on my buttock precisely underneath where the rash appears - no generalised tenderness, just right over that exact spot. Then the itching creeps in and then the rash. Afterwards is when I realise that must be why I was so tired. Usually the rash is not painful at all and only slightly itchy. This time it has been very very itchy indeed. Still no pain but ruddy itchy!

I have not managed to use the swab from the previous GP as I have always managed to get antivirals in time and I don't realy fancy deliberately popping a blister to get a swab - I imagine that would hurt like no-one's business!!!

Today one of my friends basically said I was too young to have shingles, have had suspiciously too many outbreaks and basically made me feel like a leper and it was somehow my fault. Does anyone have any advice, hints and tips or words of comfort for me? I am well and truly fed up and feel so down cry

Thank you xxxx

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    I have the exact same symtoms as you...since 2010 i have seen 4 neurologists 1 rhumeatologist..and a sports medicine specialist not one could properly diagnose me! I am now waiting too see an infectious disease specialist...a dermatologist and a nerosurgeon...i have had shingles on my left buttock 5 times since December 2017 alone it is now September 2018...with still no answers...i had to advise my GP after all these years and seeing so many specialists that I now have phn and tn...he has yet too agree yet all my symtoms point to this painfull condition...my quality of life has deminished to the point where i now have too apply for disability! I am devistated as I am an efficient hard working administrator who has recently started my own business as i cant work for any one else do too my condition...and have been hit so hard with this virus recently that i cant even run my own business...i am hoping for some relief to this painfull condition soon...i share your frustration and pain...to the rest of you that have posted on this forum thankyou for your ideas on pain management i will be trying the lysine b12 and vitamin c...as my gp does not know what too do for me anymore...we have exhausted the gabapentin and all related drugs that left me feeling brain dead...i have tried thc drops combined with thc cream the cream does help somewhat when applied to left lower back and buttock...butt (pardon the pun) i still await answers and relief...sad as you wrote this in 2017 i can only hope you have found some relief in your painful journey and will share anything i find helpful for you during mine... i am with you take care...
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      Miche,

      Are you in the States or UK? If you are in the States, get the Shingrex vaccination as it is helping individuals with recurrent Shingles. I have recurrent Shingles in my right ear every 3 weeks for the past 22 years. It is now escalating in intensity and now spread to my right scalp. I also have difficulty swallowing each time I have Shingles..

      My hematologist's case manager helped me find a pharmacy that had the Shingrex in stock. I just got the Shingrex a week ago! Individuals on this forum are having relief from recurrent Shingles and Post Herpetic Neuralgia PHN finally with this new vaccine.

      I have some hope finally for all of us suffering out there.

      You are eligible for Shingrex if you are in the States as you have had Shingles.

      Best Regards

      Merry Juliana

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    Dear Itchy

    I Can relate to you because i am going through the situation and in February it will be a year. ITS the fourth outbreak now! Since march i was ok and thought it was gone! I Took my anti virals on time which is 72 hours! I Have taken zovirak now 4 times! i just started another set! ITS 800 mg THEY say after taking 800 mg you can take a lower dosage of 400! i just started a 800 mg because is what i have on hand till i go back to my doctor! i have heard people in this forum who have been on anti viral for years! THIS is tiresome and i want this to stop! It is in iur nervous system and it can go dormat but when! I AM also taking vitamin D AND vitamin B12 they say it helps the immune system! But STRESS is a major factor here and yiu say your a university student! I HAVE a daughter your afe and finishing her masters and i know the stress you can have with studies! I Have been stressed out as well! THAT can trigger it too! DONT eat nuts! MY Is on my head! Like a head band! ITS worse because of the hair!

    Had my hair cut short! THIS is too much to handle! PLEASE let me know hiw yiur dealing with this! I WILL pray for you too! THE itching gets so so at times

    MYRNA

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