Anti-inflammatory diet
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Has anyone here tried to supplement the Pred with diet? I'm OK taking meds, but I'd rather not, if there is an option. So I went to a naturopath, who put me on a rather restrictive diet--the aim is to take as little Pred as possible. So, I can't have sugars, dairy, legumes and lentils, nuts and seeds, grains or flours of any kind as well as no nightshade vegetables (tomatoes, peppers, potatoes). So I can have other veggies, meats, eggs and 2 servings of fruits. Right now I'm on 9-10 mg (alternating days) of Prednisone. At the best of times, I have to work at maintaining my weight--so this will make it much harder. He told me to try it for 2 weeks, and then see how things are.
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EileenH rhea28447
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You already know my opinion but I'll repeat it here for the benefit of anyone else looking in:
There is no alternative to pred for reliable management of PMR. You may be able to reduce the amount of pred by diet but you have to bear in mind this is something that is going to be a problem for years - not months. Can you really face such a restrictive diet for that long? The few people on the forums who have tried it weren't able to last more than a few months.
I have tried no alcohol, no nightshades, gluten-free (I was gluten-free when PMR struck as I have an allergy to wheat starch) and I used very little dairy for a long time. None of it made the slightest difference - just made my diet rather boring and eating out very difficult.
We recommend here that when on pred you try low carb - and it really does help with the weight gain problem though there you do have to be strict. Even root veg and fruit can take you above the amount of carbs that keeps YOUR weight controlled. Everyone is different.
Now you are below 10mg you do need to be sure you are trying to reduce SLOWLY. No reduction should be more than 10% of the current dose but even that is too much for many people.
There will be practitioners who will happily take your money and tell you they CAN improve adrenal function through diet. It's bunkum. Adrenal dysfunction may cause some things - but it really isn't the basic cause of PMR although in some patients they have found poor adrenal function. This hardly surprising as PMR is predominantly a disorder of the elderly and adrenal function declines with age.
There are several causes of poor adrenal function - diet doesn't help any of them.
sandy65909 EileenH
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EileenH sandy65909
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sandy65909 EileenH
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Thanks. How many carbs is the limit? I thought I read 25 mg. That's not enough for me since I'm always hungry and eat lots of small meals during the day and if I get up during the night. What are fillers that don't add too many carbs?
EileenH sandy65909
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Meat,poultry, eggs, cheese, cream - you make your meals of non-carb foods, that keeps you satiated and you don't crave food. Carbs create food cravings and hunger: your blood sugar level rises, your body secretes insulin and the BS level falls, too far and you crave carbs to bring the BS level back. And so the cycle goes on. And you are always hungry.
25g carbs is the limit for some people to avoid weight gain. If you don't have a weight problem you can eat more
lodgerUK_NE sandy65909
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lodgerUK_NE rhea28447
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The only dietician I listened to was the one who was the Lead dietician in the local hospital. Sensible.
How much is the naturopath charging you? My advice was free of charge..............
donna25417 rhea28447
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rhea28447 donna25417
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Thanks for your reply, Donna. One of my difficulties is I lose weight very easily. So I'm afraid that this diet will really cause me to lose weight--and I have no extra to lose! I'm glad this worked for you. To be honest, I don't think this diet will do much for my PMR--I never eat much sugar, I've been off dairy for a long time anyway, I very seldom eat processed foods, but I figured I should give it a try.
EileenH rhea28447
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Yes - re Donna's comment: I should have said that the low carb eliminates the substances most likely to encourage inflammation - sugar and simple carbs are very pro-inflammatory. So taking them out alone should make a big difference and help with the weight problem at the same time.
But it doesn't alter the fact that diet makes no difference to adrenal function...
Anhaga rhea28447
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I think reducing grains and sugars makes sense. Eliminating nourishing foods like nuts and pulses not so good. Some places claim to feel better not eating too many nightshade foods but probably not necessary to eliminate them. You've been put on a drastic elimination diet which is hard. Years ago a naturopath tried to help me figure out causes of a skin problems and to make it easier I eliminated one type of food at a time, which for the record were dairy, wheat and nightshades. And I did seem to benefit marginally from eliminating nightshades. But as has been said diet may help with some things but nearly certainly not with pred.
That being said I believe that finding the best foods for one's own body may well help to maintain health as pred does its healing.
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ViktoriaH rhea28447
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How far into the two weeks are you? What's the verdict so far? I don't think pred can be 'supplemented' by diet when it's used as 'supplant'.. you need the pred you need. Diet working alongside the pred to achieve a sense of doing something positive and beneficial for yourself is a good choice - low carb works for me, I've lost weight and there's a good variety of foods, keep hydrated, and have a splurge every now and then, it isn't meant to be penance (that's the pred! for living far too full a life previously ...)
celia14153 rhea28447
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I checked this out and did some research. Taking Pred over a long period of time can make us vulnerable to diabetes and the formation of kidney stones. I stress 'can'. So I'm watching all sugars and foods high in oxalates like spinach, blueberries, chocolate, grains etc. Having them but not overdoing it. Apparently oxalates also inhibit the absorption of calcium, so if you're on AdCal you're advised not to take the tablets within two hours of eating foods high in oxalates. Nutrionists try to reduce inflammation by eliminating certain food stuffs, and you can test this through trial and error. I have certainly found avoiding processed food helpful - so much stuff added to give flavour, and it has helped to keep weight down and other parts of the digestive system! But some of the advice - celery juice every day, fruit and vegetable juices ditto - not so good. Like Almond milk though 😀
EileenH celia14153
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"Taking Pred over a long period of time can make us vulnerable to diabetes "
Not quite, in that time on pred isn't the problem. Pred changes the way our bodies process carbs and makes the liver release random spikes of glucose which, in turn, triggers the release of insulin which brings the blood sugar down quickly without there being further release of glucose from food - so we crave food to bring the BS back up. That is what makes some people hungry all the time when on pred. But it isn't because we are on pred longterm that the apparent diabetes appears, it can happen immediately and is an especial problem for people who are already diabetic. And some people it never happens to.
You are absolutely right about the avoiding sugars and simple carbs. Lots of us on the forums do it and most of us have avoided weight gain and in some cases lost a lot of weight. I've been on pred for 8 years, gained weight, some from untreated PMR and inactivity and some due to Medrol, have lost it all again and have never had a raised Hba1c, the medium term monitor of blood sugar levels.
I'm not giving up chocolate though!!!
lodgerUK_NE EileenH
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We have a very good article on 'Diabetes however, I have given up trying to post the links.
Although we had an arrangement, it seems not to have percolated down today. Been sent for moderation twice....................
So.................
EileenH lodgerUK_NE
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lodgerUK_NE EileenH
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