Anyone taking 15mg Mirtazapine with 10mg Escitilopram?

Hi Nikki,

Sorry your having a rough day of it.

I didn't sleep too well so went back to sleep after my morning Quetiapine.

It's difficult isn't it to know which medication could be causing the problem.

Remind me again what you started on and what your on now?

Hugs 🤗 

I'm sorry to hear you didn't sleep too well again but I'm glad you got a bit of sleep this morning.

I'm three weeks on 15mg Mirtazipine and 10mg escitalopram.  After 3 weeks trying just Mirtazipine at 30mg and couldn't handle it.

I've been on Mirtazipine since April though (I started 15mg then and it was fine but I was still on pregabalin). 

I feel like I'm starting to get some of the helpful side effects like appetite and a woozy feeling but it's not relaxing as I've still got resting body and racing thoughts! I keep getting that buzzy feeling up the back of my head that you get when you start or come off a medication.

I'm so exhausted I feel I could sleep but head won't let me no matter what I try.

Hugs back to you 🤗

Hi Nikki,

Sorry popped to my sons.

I still think you are getting pregabalin withdrawal symptoms maybe?

I know I was like that , with what I now know was Trazadone withdrawal.

It took a few weeks for it to settle and I can tell you it was a rough ride!

I still can't believe you have to wait so long before seeing and Dr or anyone!

It's good your appetite is starting to come back a little.

I really hope things have settled a little this afternoon for you.

Hugs 🤗 

Thanks Karen. Things got worse this afternoon. I've spoken to my dad to get through. This just isn't like me, it has to be chemical stuff. I know I get anxiety but this is something else!

How did you get through those weeks (or however long it was)? 

I'm glad you popped to your son's. That's lovely X

Hi Nikki,

I'm sorry it has got worse for you this afternoon, that's not good at all 😢

I had one week where I was so bad I couldn't stop shaking, nausea, racing thoughts, panic and my husband had to take a week off work to be with me.

Prior to that I had about two weeks of feeling my anxiety getting worse, no appetite, nausea etc then I had 3 major panic attacks .

It was at that point I was told I was in crisis.

I've suffered from anxiety and depression for over 25 years and had never felt so ill from it, and scared.

I remember saying to my dr " what if it isn't anxiety " at one point, I was so paranoid I had all kinds of thoughts going through my head.

It was at that point he started me on Quetiapine, as my adrenaline was running at maximum and needed slowing down.

I was also constantly running to the loo , thought it was a bug but it was being caused by the anxiety and high adrenaline.

I would seriously consider ringing either your crisis team or Drs surgery on Tuesday, as things definitely don't seem to be settling as they should, I know exactly how you are feeling and it's horrendous.

Sending massive hugs 🤗 

It is terrible.

I've been so scared today. 

Did the Quetiapine kick in quite quickly?

I phoned Crisis team and will again tomorrow as they have a nurse in. They said maybe my escitalopram needs to go up to 15mg. 

I'm so confused by it all X

Hi nikki

thats so awful for you today.  Its so uncomfortable to have these feelings of being scared. I have had it.   It was when i woke in the mornings mostly but could come on later in day.  

All i can do is reassure you it WILL pass, hard for you but it is true.  Try to stay focussed on something if you can, anything. Read, tv, walk.   All these things seem insurmountable when you feel as bad but they will help.

i hope you get the criss team tomorrow and get some results.   My dr gave me risperidone which he said would help, there are so many to choose from.

sending you many thoughs of feeling better soon.

sorry not been on much but grandchildren keeping me busy till tomorrow, hatd to keep a smile on sometimes.

Hi Nikki,

I'm glad you rang the crisis team, but sorry you are having such a rough time I know what it's like.

Yes the Quetiapine kicks in within at least 45 minutes as it's a tranquilliser it also builds up a therapeutic dose in the body over 3-4 weeks, it's a anti psychotic which they have apparently discovered helps with anxiety too.

My Dr as I say gave it to me as he said I was running on pure adrenaline.

There maybe other similar drugs too, I'm not sure.

Please ring the crisis team again tomorrow, you need professional support/help asap.

Here for you too, to lend an ear/support.

Hugs 🤗 

How are things today? 

Hope you will manage to see someone from crisis team and get some sort of answer to your queries about the medications.

its so hard going through all this, and then the anxiety kicks in, i do understand how uncomfortable it can be.

look forward to hearing from you when you are ready

Hi Nikki,

How are things today?

I hope you ring the crisis team again today and hopefully get some help.

Here for you .

Hugs 🤗 

Hi Karen

Thank you.

I'm doing a bit better today. Well, tough start but I phoned the nurse at the crisis team and he helped me to put things in perspective regarding medication. 

I think my recovery will start more when I've met with my support worker at depression and anxiety service this week and had my appt with psych next week. 

All seems a long way off but I have to just get through as best I can. 

How are you doing? X

Hi Nikki,

I'm glad you got some kind of answers from the crisis team.

It always seems such a long wait for everything doesn't it?

At least your getting a support worker too, hopefully that will help too.

I just have my GP and the mental health nurse specialist at the surgery.

I am going to ask him on Friday about additional support too.

Didn't sleep too well again, have managed to go to the supermarket with hubby and we did a bit of work in the garden.

Sat in the garden at the moment trying to read a book but can't concentrate very well.

It was a year ago today to the day not the date, as it was August bank holiday Monday that I was told my mum was dying, from that day until she passed away on the Thursday we spent every day and night at the hospital with her, the staff were brilliant fortunately and even made us breakfast and let us use their showers!

I hope your day settles a little for you, when do you see the support worker?

Sending massive hugs 🤗 

Thank you Karen.

I'm seeing her on Thursday. I've given up on GP for now as he's away and the others don't seem to want to get involved. It's so hard isn't it to get the support!

I'm very sorry you're dealing with the one year anniversary of losing your Mum. It must be a very difficult time for you. It'd be good if you could get some extra support. Big hugs for you.

🤗

Thats great you have some answers today.  Will help you get through the coming days.

the support systems in place do work if you get a good nurse.

i am really down today.  Family have just left for London and i couldnt push myself to go to station.  I am tired but also low.

hopefully better tomorrow, still same level meds, needing a boost but psychsecretary didnt ring me back.

hope you are feeling a bit better, visit to supermarket and garden sounds great stuff.

sorry about you feeling anniversary dates, we all do that when we lose our mums but i have found it gets a bit easier each year that passes.  I just dont want this depression to affect my relationship with my grandchildren as i just cant do as much as others.

we have teeming rain, enjoy the warmth where you are

Hi Ann,

Sorry you didn't feel up to going to the station, I'm sure your family understood though.

It must of really taken it out of you trying to keep control for your family.

I know how that feels, I want my grandchildren to see me as the happy nan I was.

It's disgusting you never got a phone call back, we all need support! Not to just be left struggling!

I hope you manage to get some rest this afternoon.

Hugs 🤗 

Thank you Nikki ??

At least it's only a few days until you see someone, though I know those days can feel like weeks!!

I really hope she gives you the help you need.

Hope you manage to rest a little this afternoon.

Hugs 🤗 

Hi Ann

I'm sorry I've not written sooner today. I've come to my dad's house with my son. Been hoping to get here all weekend. I'm coping but feel so fragile at the moment. 

You've had such a busy and demanding weekend. I'm not surprised you're feeling low Ann. You need some support from the professional people who can help you. It is absolutely terrible the secretary hasn't called you back! 

Thank you for your supportive messages.

X

Hi Karen

Thanks. I hope the appt is the start of some proper help for me. I know it'll be an assessment first time and then I hope the following week when I see the psychiatrist I can get somewhere with medication. I think I need something to help manage the racing thoughts etc. Like the Quetiapine or something.

I've over done it today. Went to my Dad's which was lovely but didn't eat til just now and I'm all over the place. My adrenaline is going and I'm exhausted but have that buzzy feeling in my body. I've taken a couple of diazepam today as was told to just use it.

I'm trying not to think too far down the line about it all.

Just hope I sleep tonight as when I overdo it, it doesn't help.

I hope you've got through today ok. X

Hi Nikki,

Fingers crossed 🤞 you are going to get the right help and support and maybe a review of your medication too.

Oh that's horrible when you feel like that , damn adrenaline!!

I hope you manage to sleep tonight.

I just take each day hour by hour I can't look any further forward at the moment, of I do I get freaked out for some reason?!

Today hasn't been too bad, my eldest son popped round with my other two grandchildren.

He suffers from anxiety too, so do my dad, brother and eldest grandchild.

He said I seemed calmer to him, other people seem to notice things that I don't .

I might seem calmer but it's still a battle trying to keep everything under control. And then I have the sleep issue too!!

Hopefully one day soon we will all see the light at the end of the tunnel .

Hugs 🤗 

I'm the same, Karen, with looking forward. Just can't. Freaks me out too. I think it's what anxiety does. Depression is the same. Just too much to think beyond the moment. Ive found it really hard to do things like think about getting school uniform sorted as even that freaks me out just thinking that far ahead about something so ordinary!

I'm pleased you've seen your son and grandchildren today. It's funny isn't it when you appear calmer yet inside you feel like you're fighting some battle just to focus on a conversation and I find myself wishing for the day I can just enjoy such times. 

It's very encouraging though that your son could see you were calmer. 

I don't know how you're coping with your lack of sleep. I struggle enough not being able to switch off in the day but my other health issues are part of that desperation for sleep in the day.

I really hope you get a better night tonight. 

We all do need that light at the end of the tunnel don't we. ??

Hi Nikki,

Didn't have a very good nights sleep again gggrr😡

I don't know how I'm coping either Nikki, other than some days I can nap in the afternoon.

It must be awful for you with your other illnesses too!

Oh definitely brings on the depression too if I look any further than today or this hour!

I get freaked if I think of stuff I need to do!

I think part of my problem is that I was running around so much when my mum was here, working, going to visit her in hospital. Which one was over 25 miles away. Then constantly battling with carers  etc when she was home for a few months .

Caring for her and at that time I was also in a cast as I'd broken my foot!

I think I was in over drive through all of it.

It's amazing how other people can see changes for the better but I can't !

Probably because I can still feel the internal battle?!

Hope today is a little better for you and for Ann.

Hugs 🤗 

Yes it sounds like you had a lot on your plate and it's all caught up with you Karen. That's a heck of a lot to deal with. I can relate as my past year has been full on with difficult events.

I'm sorry you had a bad night 🙁

My night was dreadful. Woke up at 4am and struggled to sleep so took another Zopiclone. Got a little more sleep. But feel dreadful today and have to take my dog to the vets again as she's gone down hill again.

I'm exhausted and anxious and my body feels like it's buzzing with adrenaline.

You must be exhausted Karen X

Sorry you had a rough night too Nikki, it's exhausting isn't it?!

Oh no your poor dog! I hope you get on ok at the vets!

I'm sorry you've had stuff to deal with over the past few years too, I'm sure it all takes its toll on us eventually!

Just quickly hoovered up and had a quick tidy up.

Going to have a cuppa and try to get some rest.

Hugs 🤗 

Thanks Karen.

Yes hopefully she'll be ok. Ongoing problem it seems. 

That's good you've managed a couple of things. I hope you get some rest.

I'm trying a bit of rest before heading out. 

I hope Ann's doing ok. I know she's in a tough place. Hugs to you both 🤗

Hi ladies,

still not in a good place.

you two are moving on i can see.  Getting out to vets is more than i can do, so well done.

hoovering is something i just cant face doing, nor any housework so that's an achievement.

i have to go ffor blood tests today for my clotting problem, i have to take pills daily.  Anxiety raises,every time i go for,the test, its not hard its just me cant cope with anything where anticipation is there.

i dont know if it has been the mirtaz or the diaz but it is not easing up on the nausea yet either.   I just want to get off this stuff but needed a buccastem today on waking.  Strange but i can eat by 6pm most days, sometimes not much.

I have given up on secretary phoning me back after a week.  I guess they think i will ring crisis team if i am in need.  They will just say take more diazepam again.  

So you see, i am still stumbling on hoping your meds kick in and you both feel better soon.  I will then ask my psych at october appt about change.   October just seems a long way away.  Crisis team i feel i dont need at present.

sending you lots of good wishes from a very cool, cloudy day here.

keep pushing, youll get there 

HI Ann,

So sorry your still suffering so badly.

It's ridiculous you have to wait until October to see anyone, I just don't understand how they can leave you feeling the way you do!!

I remember when I was on Mirtazapine it was the evening that I got the hunger pangs.

You can obviously see positive changes in myself and Nikki, no matter how small.

It wasn't so long ago housework was a no go for me too, didn't do anything except lie on the sofa.

Really wish things would let up for you Ann.

Sending hugs 🤗 

Hi Ann

I'm sorry I've not replied sooner. Having a bit of a day of it with dog worries. I have to get help to be able to go as I can't drive and do stuff like that due to severe fatigue. 

How did you get on going to your appointment today? Things like that are such a big deal right now. I wish you were getting some help sooner than October. Really feel for you.

Just had my usual restless afternoon trying to get my nap that has eluded me for weeks now. I feel sick with exhaustion and quite low.

I know if I phone for support again they'll just tell me there's a plan in place and to use the diazepam. 

I hope you got on ok with your appointment? X

Hi Nikki, 

Sorry you haven't been able to nap today, you really need that sleep.

I managed to sleep this afternoon thank goodness 😅 

I think we are beginning to feel low due to the length of time we have been suffering and also due to lack of sleep.

Obviously you've got the added worry about your dog and looking after your son too, along with your other illnesses.

You must be shattered.

Roll on Thursday when you see your support worker.

Hugs 🤗 

Feel for you having restless time and along with sick and exhausted doesnt help.  One day it wont be like this.

thank you for asking, my bloods were good today so dont need to see them until another month.  one more thing out of the way for a while. I also cant drive to appts so rely on good hubby.

i know exactly what you mean about support team, done all that, same old answers.  Take diazepam.  Thats why im trying to wait until my psych appt to discuss meds properly.  Just hoping to hang on in there till that day.

keep on pushing, we will get our rewards one day.

hope your dog will be ok.

have a peaceful night, youre due one!

thanks for your good words.  I hope you are seeing lightt of day,, hoovering is a pat on the back.

yes one of reasons for leaving mirtaz is to get weight off.   Its funny i feel nausea in morning  but appetite comes in evening, really weird.   Go to bed fine and wake feeling awful.  Cant understand this.

keeping on pushing, one day will do some housework as soon as my energy returns.

have a good night

That's good about your bloods Ann. Well done for getting that out the way.

I'm the same, holding out to see psychiatrist for proper guidance on meds and just trying to get through each hour and day til then. I can't imagine what she'll recommend for me. I'm sure this Mirtazipine isn't quite right for me. My depressive thoughts seem held at bay but it's the anxiety and inability to rest and sleep that's getting me very down. 

It's strange but I've had times later in the evening like you say where I've felt almost fine and I eat better too, then wake up and it's all anxiety again.

I'm getting the dry retching (sorry!) everyday now. I think it's exhaustion.

You're right, one day we won't feel like this, we'll feel calm and rested and feel the joy again.

Sending you a big hug Ann X

Hi Karen

I'm so pleased you had a sleep! You so need that what with your rotten nights.

It's the weird images/ thoughts o get when trying to sleep in the day that just prevent me dropping off and unsettle me. 

Just want this to settle.

It's natural to get low isn't it when things have been such a struggle for so long. 

I hope you can have a calm evening.

Big hugs to you 🤗

Hi, hope you had a restful night.  Makes all,the difference.  I was all over the place, dreaming, waking, dreaming, then that awful wake up.

i just wonder if you and Karen have considered starting a new page topic as this one is so huge now, or is that not such a good,idea?

Hi Ann

It seems like the Zopiclone isn't working so much now as I'm waking at 4am. I'm really hungry when I wake too despite having had a proper snack before bed. 

I now take a second Zopiclone as otherwise I'd not get any more sleep and added to my none sleep in the day I wouldn't function. I can't pretend I'm not worried about that as i was hoping sleep would improve rather than worsen. 

A week today my son goes back to school so I'll be up at 7 and without my daytime sleep that's going to be hard. I keep thinking I don't like the Mirtazipine because of the now increasing hunger and inability to sleep, isn't it meant to be sedating? But I cannot imagine trying to taper off that! 

My ME/CFS is impossible to manage properly at present due to it all and I'm having to rest after ever little thing. Sorry to go on!

Your nights sounds really tough. You poor thing. And yes, that awful waking anxiety.

I did wonder about a new topic thread but not sure what to call it etc! 

How are you doing now? X

Hi Ann,

Sorry you had such a rough night, I hate that sleeping, dreaming, waking thing, it just wears you out doesn't it?!

I slept a bit better last night.

My anxiety still comes in little waves, no where near as bad as it was, but still there.

Yes, I think starting a new thread would be a good idea, any suggestions on what we can title it?

Hoping your day isn't too bad.

Hugs 🤗 

Hi Nikki,

Sorry the Zopiclone doesn't appear to be working as well, I remember when I was on it years ago it stopped working for me so I was swapped to Zolpidem.

I thought Mirtazapine was meant to be sedating too!?

I can understand your concerns about how your going to cope with the lack of sleep when your son goes back to school.

Hopefully you might get some answers tomorrow, though I expect it will be more of an assessment?

But I would try to ask questions if you have the chance.

I think it would be a good idea to start a new thread as I said to Ann, have either of you got any suggestions for a title?

Hope you manage to get some rest today.

Hugs 🤗 

Hi Karen 

Thank you for writing. 

I spoke to a GP earlier as so fed up with this sleep thing. Although she was reassuring there's nothing to be done until I see the psychiatrist in a week. She said to take 2 diazepam in the afternoon to see if I can sleep. Which I did but I still couldn't drop off, just lay there for two hours slightly relaxed but still the weird thoughts whenever I got close to sleep. I don't know what's wrong with me, why I can't just sleep and that strange stuff.

I can't think of what to call a new thread. Something about recovery journeys or something!

X

Hi Nikki,

How annoying for you.

If it's 2mg Diazepam your taking, two of them will not make you sleepy just feeling a little more relaxed.

You must be exhausted 😩 

I don't know what to suggest other than seeing if they will change your sleeping tablets?!

Next week is a long way off when your feeling so rubbish.

I've got my mental health nurse specialist on Friday, don't know what he'll have to say about medication.

Recovery journeys sounds quite a good idea !

Hugs 🤗 

Hi Nikki and Ann,

How have your days been?

My sister came round for a few hours earlier so broke the day up.

I did manage to have a little nap this afternoon.

I'm still getting small waves of anxiety, no where near as bad as they were, but I'm wondering if based on that my mental health nurse specialist may increase my Escitilopram from 10mg on Friday? He did say the last time I saw him how I was on the lowest dose?

I don't think I'll ever be totally free of anxiety, I've suffered from it for too long but if it stopped being so debilitating and I could get some normality in my life it would be something.

I'd love to be able to get back into work even if it was only for 10-15 hours a week.

My my GP said absolutely no way to that at the moment when I mentioned it last time I saw him.

Hope you've both had as okish afternoon as possible.

Hugs 🤗 

Hi Karen

That's good you got a rest and saw your sister.

I understand how you feel about anxiety. I'm the same in that if it was less debilitating and I was getting sleep, I think I'd cope better and accept it's part of my life.

I'm quite low again after no sleep and just don't know how much longer I can cope with it. I know I've got my appt with the support worker in the morning but it's the medication I need help with at the moment. 

Are you worried about upping the escitalopram? It'd be good if it helped even more. 

If I could, I'd just be on the escitalopram as I don't think this Mirtazipine is right for me but I feel stuck now. Will see what psychiatrist says. I'm anticipating another change in meds because of this inability to switch off and get sleep. 

How does the Quetiapine make you feel?

X

Hi Nikki,

I am a bit wary of upping the Escitilopram in case I get side effects!

You must be feeling absolutely exhausted Nikki.

Maybe the psychiatrist will tweak your medication?

Who knows what they'll try next with us?!

Quetiapine calms the adrenaline and the racing thoughts, it helps me to get to sleep at night but I don't sleep all night, that's on 100mgs at night.

Then I take 50mgs in the morning.

It's taken a while to feel the benefits of it in a therapeutic way but not sure if it's the Escitilopram or the Quetiapine that's working or a combination of both?

Just some normality would be lovely, jeez I feel that I've been in a time warp as everywhere there seems to be Christmas things coming out already!

Hugs 🤗 

Goodness I can't even think about Christmas! I normally love this time of year.

You never know, you might not experience many issues upping to 15. I understand your fears though. 

I keep being told just to use the diazepam and I am using it a bit more but it doesn't help much so I think what's the point adding more when I might have to add or change something next week?

The lack of sleep must be tough on you Karen. I know I'm struggling.

Thank you for the info on the Quetiapine. I know you've given me info before on it too. I appreciate it. X

Hey you don't have to thank me, we're all supporting one another and if your memories anything like mine, I forget things quite easily lol 😂 

I definitely can't think about Christmas! Although I used to love it.

I'm not even thinking about our holiday in two weeks time!

Jeez if I did I'd get myself into a right state!

I'm hoping when I see my GP the Friday before we go he'll let me have two packets of Diazepam to see me through the 11 nights we are away!

I've still got to rebook my mammogram too, waiting for the results of that will send my anxiety into overdrive, it always does!

I hope you get on ok with your support worker tomorrow and it's someone you feel comfortable with, I've found it makes a difference if you feel comfortable with someone.

Hugs 🤗 

Hi nikki and karen

i have gone away for a day or two break, not far, the seaside, but felt so rotten i dont know if i will manage to stay till end of week.  That sounds stupid but its just the way i feel nothing is giving me pleasure.

meantime have just caught up with your news, so bad having these awful days, hope you both find things getting better soon,  i dont think i can contemplate escitalopram at my next appt as my restlessness is bad enough already i couldnot stand more.

anyway hope your night is better and will see what tomorrow brings.

chins up - look forward to hearing if you can come up with new title.

Hi Ann, 

Aww that's good you've got away, but not good that you don't feel so good.

I hope you can stick it out, I know how difficult it is to find pleasure in things when your feeling so awful.

I can understand you not wanting to change medication because of side effects.

I'm wondering what your psych will suggest when you see him, something needs to be done to help you, you can't carry on like this, you must be exhausted from it all too.

Sending hugs 🤗 

Oh yes, your holiday! No don't think too far ahead. 

I'm sure your gp will give you the diazepam as you can't just not have it!

Can you delay your mammogram til you're feeling a bit stronger/ secure on your meds?

Honestly my thoughts and emotions are all over through the day. I can be feeling at my wits end and later feel stronger. Is that how this goes?

I actually met the lady who's been assigned to me at the end of July when I went for my initial meeting with the mental health team. It's just turned out that I've got her. She seemed really lovely. 

I hope you get some sleep tonight. I hope Ann does too.

X

Hi Ann

That's good you're at the seaside but I know what it's like to not be feeling the relief from being away. 

I hope you can stay though. I think you're doing a good thing to at least have a change of scenery.

I don't know if I'm going to settle on these meds. I'm trying not to think about it. I'm less depressed, just get low because of the inability to rest.

Will keep you posted on the new thread. You take care Ann. I'm thinking of you and sending a big hug X

Hi Karen,

thanks for your thoughts on my predicament.  I just dont know how im going to get through till next appt. and then i might have to start all over again with another anti dep.

woke in night so much i gave in and took a half mirtaz, really didnt want to go back the way but then woke queasy and had to have a buccastem, so now i am awake i am depressed and anxious and very hard on myself for going backwards on my taper.

yesterday i felt very depressed and im not sure if its just the lowering of the med or my illness, how did i manage four days with the children and now im so down?  The thought of even a walk on the beach is so unappealing, thats just so wrong.

i think my psych will say he has not got much left to try for me, maybe an maoi but they come with very tight dietary regulations.  I think he is stumped.  Everything i try either makes me worse or i cant get dose high before it gives me bad side effects.  How i wish i was like my friend who went on prozac, stayed on it, felt fine and is so much better than me after all these years.  

anyway, hope you had a good night and that you are going to have a good day. Sun shining here for a change.

Hi there, hope you had a better night than me.  Sleep so poor i had to take a half mirtaz to get back over, still feel nausea too.

these mirtaz are not helping me, just giving me a sleep.  Someone said try Benadryl its an antihistamine which makes you sleepy, i am not sure if it would help and havent asked dr.

yes, the sea is lovely, the sun is out, but im so depressed i cant even take the joy of it.

i am doing what gp said in lowering this med which never did much for me as i couldnt take higher dose.

how are you finding things - as the days pass are you feeling anxiety any better?  I wonder if its the meds sometimes. They seem to increase the anxiety and nearly send us mad, or it feels like it sometimes.  Let me know if you have a change or if you settle.

hope your day goes well - ideas for new forum- possibly Mirtazapine - is it giving more anxiety?

Hi Ann 

So sorry your feeling so rubbish.

It must be so difficult for your psych to find something that doesn't interact with your warfarin.

There must be something though surely?

You can't be the only person with this predicament?!

How I wish we all had magic wands to get rid of all of this.

Don't beat yourself up about taking the Mirtazapine, you just have to do what you can to get through, especially as they've just left you high and dry with no support until next week!!

It really annoys me, if it was a broken limb you'd be seen, but we have broken nerves and it seems like because it's not visible nobody takes any notice when we cry out for help.

I hope you settle a bit today.

My sleep wasn't brilliant but have mental health nurse specialist tomorrow so will see what he has to say.

Hugs to you 🤗

Hi Ann and Karen

I'm sorry I've not been on today. I had my appt with support worker this morning and it took it out of me. It was really just a chat about where I am and so I cried a lot and expressed my difficulties!

I had a rubbish night again so I'm going to try either a diazepam + Zopiclone tonight or the double Zopiclone. 

I think if I was sleeping I'd be able to say my anxiety has decreased. I was told today that escitalopram can be quite activating so taking it at night might not be the best time. This might be something for Karen to ask in her appt?

Define don't be down on yourself about taking the Mirtazipine Ann. You're trying to get through until you get proper guidance and it's terrible you're not being taken care of!

Im wondering if we message instead of posting but not sure how that works? Then maybe post occasionally with updates. I don't know.

I'm sending support and compassion to you both X

Hi Nikki,

I'm glad you got on well today and we're able to open up, a good cry never hurt anyone and sometimes is like releasing a lot of pent up emotions.

I was told to take my Escitilopram in the morning and have always taken it then.

Let's hope taking a different regime at night helps you sleep better.

Are either of you on Facebook?

I speak to Aga via Facebook messenger now rather than on here.

Just a thought.

I'm not surprised it took it out of you Nikki, when I was having counselling I used to feel drained after.

When do you see the support worker again?

Hugs 🤗 

Yes I'm on Facebook. Might be a way for us all to keep in touch. Could do a group chat thing. I don't go in actual fb at the moment but I've got messenger. If Ann's up for that too we could message contact names on here.

I'm wondering if I start taking the escitalopram in the morning but think I'd need to do it some sort of stepped way. I've got an appt next Wed with support worker and psychiatrist finally.

I know that will give me a plan which I'm nervous about as I don't know what will be suggested but also I can't go on this way if the anxiety and sleeplessness  isn't going to settle. 

How has your day been? X

Hi Nikki,

I'll leave the fb decision to you and Ann, it is a good way of giving support etc. 

It's a bit daunting not knowing what decisions will be made, if any, regarding medication isn't it.

My day hasn't been too bad thank you.

My son popped in for an hour earlier, so no afternoon nap for me today.

I'm feeling a little anxious today as it's a year tomorrow I lost my mum, so have been a few tears already 😢

I will go to the churchyard tomorrow to put flowers and have a chat with her 💔

Will see what my mental health nurse specialist says about my sleep tomorrow, not holding out much hope though.

I hope you feel a little more rested now.

Hugs 🤗 

I'm very sorry to hear that Karen. It must be such a difficult time. No wonder you're feeling some anxiety and have been tearful. I'm sending a big hug. 

I hope there's something they can do to help with your sleep. 

X

Thank you Nikki 😘

I am pleased you have been to your appointment today, at least it is another pair of ears to hear how youre feeling. I really dont think these people know how difficult life can be for us.

it would be worth a try tonight to see if diazepam or zopiclone would help a bit for you.  I have tried both and ended up sticking with diazepam. It will definitely help somewhat. I found the zopiclone sent me to sleep but if i awoke it doesnt work twice if you see what i mean.

Unfortunately i dont have facebook so will have to continue this way.  I could message but somehow i dont seem to have that little icon on my postings, not sure why.

anyway, been out for a bit in sun trying to keep anxiety down, so,hoping tomorrow will be better for all.

wishing you a better night.

 

hi, sounds like you may be feeling a bit better, hope thats the case.  Do you think counselling helped for anxiety or depression?  I have been told im not bad enough for it as its in short supply!

hoping your day has been good and you will have a decent night.

sorry i will have to continue writing here, im not on facebook.

good wishes for the night

Thanks for your experience with the diazepam/ Zopiclone. What dose Zopiclone did you use out of interest? I'm not sure what to do, I just need more sleep.

I can message you on here. Can keep posting on here or start a new thread as we said. I'm just too boggled with exhaustion to figure out what's best. As long as we stay communicating and being there. 

I agree, these people don't know how hard it is. 

That's good you got out in the sun but I know you're struggling with your anxiety. Do you have any appointments yet? Or is it still October?

I'm thinking of you. Here's to moving forward however slowly it may be. X

Morning Nikki and Ann,

I have started a new thread called 

" Anxiety and medication journeys "

Hi Karen, well done! And thanks. It's not coming up in the notifications yet but will keep an eye out. Unless it's possible to post a link here? X

I can't figure out how to post a link!

But if you scroll through the "Anxiety disorders " section, it's definitely there as Marleen has replied on it.

Hugs 🤗 

Hi nikki

i was using 3.75 i think.  It did the job.  Hope you can get some sleep.  

I was told tontry not to double dose as it can be addictive but in short use its fine.

still waiting for October im afraid. I dont want to ring secretary again as she obviously was told no appts available.   These psychs are so elusive.  I asked my gp about going private but she said it would just be same nhs drs doing the appointments in their spare time!!

hope your day is ok.  Glad to see we will have a new thread to follow.

 

thanks karen, i am just useless at anything on computer but basics.

Hope your day is going along well.

will look out for new posting