ATORVASTATIN and severe muscle pain

Hi Abradley!  I know that there are some alternatives out there...however, I have yet to try them, or know any of their names.  Before you do that, I would suggest to research whatever the alternative is, HEAVILY.  I did some preliminary research, and some of these alternatives produce the same side effects, simply because the chemical engineering behind them is the same -- to lower cholesterol by tinkering with your natural body chemistry; which in turn, for some of us, can be too much "tinkering" to the point where some serious side effects start to appear.  There is a ton of research out there by doctors that explain in detail what happens to your body when you take statins -- problem is, the statin drug industry is BIG business ($$$) and the positive hype behind statins is suppressing any negative feedback.  Based on the pain I went through, I will never take any statin again, or any supplement that reports similar side effects simply because something about "me" does not "like" those drugs.  Not to say that some people have no choice...diet, is the best, of course -- if you can do it that way.

Hi Mark - thanks for updating us. Sounds like you will make a full recovery which is great news. I was on the poison for two years and 20 mnths after throwing them away I still have the occasional twinge in my joints - sometimes making it hard to sleep. Also experienced a thumb that felt bruised but showed no signs, nor swelling, but was all ouchy-ouchy when I used it or pressed the joint. I wondered if you have altered your diet and also if you have heard of the new cholesterol-lowering oral spray being tested by Zenith in New Zealand? 

Good for you,it took me longer,2 to 3 years for full remission. Glad u are doing good. Xx

Hi Scott -  I had the same problems you listed and more. The doctors all denied, denied, denied. They tried to blame me for all the gathering problems that were caused by their prescriptions. One day when climbing into the shower, hanging onto the walls like a 90 year old scared of falling, and through the fog of dislocation the drugs had caused, a sudden moment of clarity struck me - how on earth had I come to this? Answer - statins. I started to reasearch and was horrified at what I found. Shock giving way to anger and anger to action.  It's 20 months since quitting and i still experience shadows of issues, which goes to show how deep the damage is that statins cause. Since then I have a healthy suspicion of doctors. I question everything and research any advise they give. I have also recently read that up to 30% of statins users have notable side effects, and that statins are a 12 billion dollar per annum bonanza for the pharma cartels.  Good on you Scott for taking your health back. Hang in there, you will come through the other side. Je suis non-statin.

I have done much research on the cholesterol issue. For me it is all a giant hoax promugated by big pharm and Doctors.

I no longer care what my numbers are.

I carefully choose the foods that I eat and mostly eat organic, fruits, veges, nuts and very little animal protein. I also stay away from sugar, carbohydrates, refined and processed foods.

There is much research out there by institutions and research facilities that show that statins do not reduce the risk of heart attacks arterial scelorosis. It is a huge scam. Worst part of it coming up before us is that now big pharm wants our children to go on statins!

 

well said Bill.  I read an article by a very eminent physician who stated that his own clinical research has shown that, as an example, if a female with a history of heart disease took statins for say a 30yr period, the most that they could expect their life expectancy to be increased by would be 9 months!  Statins have been proven to increase the risk of type 2 diabetes - itself a common factor in causing heart attack - liver dysfunction and latterly possibly increasing the risk of dementia - what price for a max of an extra 9 months - and if any extra at all, those months spent in poor health or without full cognitive function.  You're correct - it's a huge money spinning scam and shame on the medical profession for buying into such.

well said bill, it's all a con

Agree,from what I've read sugar is much worse its the inflamation,not the Cholesterol,although,i still eat some sugar,heck I could be hit by a truck tomorrow.

"Inflammation"?

Looks like you have a fan club here Bill - everything you wrote is sensible and true. I am astounded that the pharma cartels are now going after children with this. All the kids need is proper dietry education and to understand they are a biological unit requiring biological energy not over-the-counter fast foods processed by conglomerates. While fast businesses want us endless eating their product, pharmas business model is to get every person on earth from birth to grave to be reliant on at least one of their products. Statins have proved a huge money spinner since it causes other serious illnesses- and they know it. Absolutely criminal. I've done what you've done - threw away the pills and the numbers and regulate my diet. I have never been as sick in my life as when I was taking statins.

I am new to this group but glad to see I am not the only person that's having these problems. My left upper back is killing me! I have been on atorvastatin for about 3 yrs. it first started with my calfs, then moved to my forearms, then back. I take other medications for blood pressure, thyroid, acid reflux and anxiety. I honestly think that I don't need half of it . Between everything I have read about statins and PPI's, I think their side effects are making things worse!

Dear Sharon

I agree with you about half meds. I take could be reduced.I have terrible lower back muscle pain one week I'm OK following week im miserable .I stop taking Tylenol for pain it's bad for the liver. I take Coumadin / Pravastatin amlodipine losartan combination of Pravastatin and lodipine have the same side effects muscle spasm I have another doctor appointment to let them know what's going on at this time I'm going to insist I want to be taking off this minute and it gets harder and harder

In the last 4weeks I have been to the Gastro, been diagnosed w Colon cancer from my very first ever colonoscopy, had it removed two days later and I am three weeks post op waiting for results from pet scan. My head didn't even have time to spin , it happened so fast. Thing is, while I was in the hospital they took my meds away 2 days prior to surgery and I didn't have the back ache the whole time. Or this crazy hoarseness I developed after changing b/P meds 3 months ago. As soon as they gave me my b/P medications and cholesterol , they came back???? Go figure. So.... Me and the good dr are fixing to have a heavy discussion here REAL SOON

Dear Sharon

. My goodness I'm so sorry to hear that and I'm glad they got everything I'll keep you in my prayers I sure would love to get off this amlodipine and Pravastatin anyway you take care take it easy

Than you so much !! You take care too ! God bless ! And I'll be praying for you too !🙏🙏🙏

I am also no longer concerned about cholesterol numbers; they do not predict CVD. I will end my statin regimen today; the pain and swelling in my shoulders and hands are too much. Animal protein remains the most concentrated form of nutrients and fruit remains a concentrated form of carbohydrates, i.e. sugar. I would attend to that fact. Get a proper lipid test: Apol B (LDL-P) - you might have to pay for it - to get the best predictor of CVD - lower the better. After all of these years and all of the science, Dr. Atkins has been shown to have been on the right path - he was driven by evidence and not pleasant bucolic thoughts. Statins are a hoax. This knowledge has been available since the beginning of the Framingham study decades ago. Heal yourself. I am not looking forward to seeing my cardiologist next week if he is like all the other doctors I have been reading about. Good Luck, everyone.

I have a new pcp and have been taken off b/P meds, cholesterol, and have lowered my thyroid meds and hormones. I feel 10 times better. Of course I try to exercise (walking) and eat low carb and low fat.  Man is it hard but I'm not doing too bad. I have an appointment with the heart dr Wednesday as well and I can't wait to hear what he has to say about the changes.. I DO NOT want to go back on statins

Good on you cramcg. Yes they are a hoax and I bvelieve the docs are aware of that.

Hi Sharon - good on you! The negative effects of statins may take some time to disperse depending on how long you have been taking them and at what dosage. Changing exercise/diet is a gradual project, replacing less beneficial behaviours with better ones. Stick to it you'll get there. Personally, I refuse statins after the hell they put me through while the doc denied, denied, denied, and instead asserted all the illnesses was somehow all my fault. 2 years free of statins and I still have the tailends of some of those illnesses, nut they are much diminished and I expect in the next year or so I will be all better. Good luck to you.

'but,' not 'nut.' No. I am not a nut.