Bisoprolol buddies

"... a complete lack of motivation to do ANYTHING ..." You're right about that, even really important things I had something important today and I was thinking nah I'll do it tomorrow and shrug off the consequences for not doing it today But anyway, snail like, I managed it, slow is good Too fast is cramps + agony = feel like giving up and going home

Hi all

I've been a lurker on here for awhile. It is reassuring to know that I'm not the only one with the side effects. In February I was diagnosed with Right Ventricular Outflow Track Ventricular Tachycardia (RVOT VT). It's a benign form of VT but needs to be managed. Since February, I've tried metropolol, atenolol, another beta blocker, a calcium channel blocker and then finally bisoprolol. Metropolol controls the VT the best but the side effects are so horrible; bisoprolol doesn't control the VT as well, but at least I can sleep at night. I'm not a big person and have gained 3 kg; the fatigue and lethargy are horrible.

I was on the waiting list for a cardiac ablation, which for this problem has above 90% success rate. My procedure was on Wednesday and, amazingly, my heart wouldn't go into tachycardia. The catheters were in place for about four hours and they tried everything - electrical and pharmacological - to stimulate it. Nothing. So the ablation didn't happen and now I need to stay off the drugs (yay!) and wait for a good, sustained event, go to the hospital for an ECG and then to the hospital where the procedure can be done (about 1 3/4 hours from where I live) and have it done urgently.

The doctor confirmed from the 3D mapping on Wednesday that my tachycardia is benign and that I have no structural abnormalities, so that is a big relief. And, of course, I'm happy that I can have a procedure that will fix my heart but I am so very disappointed that we couldn't do the ablation on Wednesday and get on with my life. I don't want to sound like I'm whinging, and I know a lot of people on here are in worse situations than I am, but I am so tired of not being able to live life fully and feeling so unlike myself. I had this fantasy that Wednesday it would get fixed, I'd spend a couple weeks taking it easy and then I could start exercising again and get rid of this weight I've gained and start getting strong again. It's been so frustrating ever since I was diagnosed. I just want to be myself again.

Thanks for listening and best wishes to everyone on here. It's a hard time of life for all of us..

Hi all,

GREAT NEWS yes GREAT NEWS, I had been taking Bisoprolol 1.25g for 2 years for Afib with varying results. After a lot of reading and Goggleing I have discovered that the main cause of Arrythmia in heart or any other muscle in body is lack of MAGNESIUM. I have stopped taking Bisoprolol and now take 2 tablets daily (200mg) of CHELATED MAGNESIUM which has completely cure all arrythmia in heart. (must be chelated magnesium)

I do not know why doctors keep this a secret but it has worked for me. Google "The miracle of magnesium"

Great to be back to my old self, Pat.

Ive read about magnesium being good for A/F and the advice was to a have a shower and then spray all over with Epson salts. Apparently if your body is deficient in this nutrient ,it will absorb the magnesium. I also read that to take a supplement may cause side effects--can't remember now what exactly they were but i will research it again. I can't tell you how happy I am that someone out there has found a solution for them. God I just wish I could get rid of the persistent palps and chuck the bisoprolol in the bin. I'm going to buy some Epsom salts and give it a go. Not sure about the tablets. Did you ask your doc Pat or did you just do it yourself? Again I'm very happy for you.I'm off now to google it.

Quick update. I know this is the bisoprolol message board, and I changed to nebivolol but the side effects are similar. Nebivolol is heart specific, so should have fewer side effects. I got horrendous side effects from bisoprolol but lots also from this newer beta blocker.

Having now been back on a tiny dose of BB I can say that I feel slightly better, legs not so leaden, I don't feel like I'm trawling through thick treacle, still weary, no sleep problems, no weight gain, but my head is very weird, hopefully that will get better with time.

I think you MUST keep a positive attitude, try distracting yourselves, I'm sewing for charity, just to occupy myself, (and doing good deed for charity).

Don't give up folks, ask for new (probably more expensive) drugs if they are the right ones for you. Seek the advice of your GP, mine is fabulous and I can't find fault. All I can say is we are all in the same boat, and we will come through it, just THINK POSITIVE and dont let your brain convince you to think negatively.

How do I unsubscribed to this website, I am to opt out but there is no place to do so, any help would be greatly appreciated...

I also changed to another beta blocker after 3 1/2 weeks without any. This one is called Carvedilol, and the side effects started where the Bisoprolol finished: terrible breathlessness, massively increased water retention, especially where it is most dangerous of all: in the lungs. I only ever took one tablet a day (I was supposed to take two) and then only for four days, but never again. After two days my weight went up by half a kilo, another half a kilo the following day. and by Thursday night I could hear the water in my lungs, exactly as with Bisoprolol. I also got a lot of water in the abdomen. It looks like these drugs have given me ascites, which is a usually fatal form of water retention. Look it up on wikipedia. It mostly kills through water on the lungs.

NEVER AGAIN!

Shocked to read your post richard. I have great sympathy with you.What on earth are the docs doing? I have constant anxiety like palps from the A/F, and bisoprolol side effects but nothing s bad as your experiences.I hope that you are feeling better today.

wish i could be as positive as Slipware but then we're all different. I ve just completed a patients survey asking all sorts of questions about my consultation with the cardiologist 11sept. Think Ive been selected cos this hospital has recently failed inspections. I pulled no punches,the consultation was one way no discussion as such. I hope that I won't have any need to visit this hospital again!

I am relatively glad I found this forum. Feel a little awkward posting on it as my dose is the lowest possible of bisoprolol (1.25mg/day) about to double. Gee I hate it with a passion. I am only 16 and was put on it as a preventative measure not to treat anything for the first week and half i was falling asleep everywhere and anywhere at any time of the day. 3 weeks later just about back to normal and my cardiologist wants to increase my dose.

Not best pleased about this as before the medication I was a competitive swimmer/ still swimming properly with my some of age group also beging to talil off. pPS I did not tail off because I wanted to- I was born with tetralogy of fallot and pulmonary valve has become more and more ineffiecent so have just naturally fallen behind. However over the last Three weeks it just got a whole lot worse. I really do not like it- I have swum and served my club for over 6 years it is the first time they did not bother gathering my test set results as I really couldn't do it (ps my results have always been bad compared with competition performance but never have they given up like that). And to be honest I do not blame them- the amount it has slowed my heart rate makes exercise uncomfortable.

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I have been on 5mg of this stuff since I was 49 after a SVT and it hasn't really bothered me too much. Nobody explained anything - have I got high blood pressure because I take these or do I take these because I have high blood pressure? I had a SVT they stuffed Bisop down my throat and then they put me on the treadmill to check me out - Lets' see how she is doing now she's got some medication? No trying out why I had it in the first place? The SVT was unfounded - no reason for it. Well Bisop makes me sleep for England, when I am asleep, it's the going to sleep in the first place that is hard and the waking up again even harder.Aches and crakes - I'm 56 now, so would expect some , sex drive = nearly zero, big midriff and lobster boiling symptoms in bed and very hot red boiling hands - C'est la vie!

They also told me when they put me on it that it was good for anxiety and calmed you down - hence earlier posts from other people about feeling a bit laid back, easy going, a bit lazy with a reluctance to socialise. It has helped me with some attitude management which has been good on the whole, why get stroppy and agitated if you don't need to. On the whole I am a lot more tolerant and easy going, why wind yourself up? It's no good for you or anyone else. Anyway I have really enjoyed this forum, so good to hear all of your points. Still not sure if I should be on this stuff but my doc thinks so, so will bow to his better judgement.

After completing the 3 Peaks Challenge in June 2013 to celebrate my 50th birthday I suffered a bout of SVT in October after sawing up a tree!

Doctors have found scarring on my heart but I am awaiting an MRI to find out what the cause of that is.

In the meantime I have been put on Bisoprolol 2.5mg and it is making me feel like crap (to be honest). My get up and go has got up and gone and I have put on 7lbs already.

I am also finding that the tiredness is making me cranky and everyone is having to tread on eggshells around me.

I stopped taking it for a week and felt great - was soon told off by wife and doctor but wish someone would understand that I am grateful for being alive but am really missing how I used to feel.