Bouts of tiredness and having difficulty getting going

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I am now on 2mgs of Pred but am so tired.....no pain. The fatigue comes and goes in waves. Is this an adrenal problem or just part of the adjustment when the Pred is so low? I have been able to do so much more recently but now seem to be hitting a low. I don't normally put salt on food but have been adding it as I feel a need. I am also craving sweet food. My weight has started to increase and I had lost 1.5 stone, having put on 3 stone. I have had a number of stresses recently so is this it all catching up? Any thoughts? I don't want to increase the Pred as I don't have a problem with pain so I am assuming the PMR is in remission.

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    That all adds up to a suggestion of poor adrenal function - salt cravings especially! One or two others have mentioned weight GAIN at low doses. Not sure why. But if you have been stressed that does add up and slight adrenal insufficiency can take a while to catch up. Were you OK at 3mg? I think it is worth speaking to the doctor - or going back up a bit to see if you feel better.This would be a good dose to have a synacthen test.
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      Thank you, Eileen. I think I will see how this week goes, though it's another busy one. It may just be that I am doing too much for the dosage. I have no pain so I don't think it's the PMR. I was fine on 2.5. Life is just getting in the way of resting enough and at the moment I have no control over it unless I say no and I would feel a bit of a wimp and would be letting others down. I know!!!!!! When I reached 1.5, previously  the pain returned so it's not that problem. I shall try to rest a bit though fatigue dictates.

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      Hi just a update on acterma  I stop due to the blood in my urine and the feeling in my lungs  but good thing. Only on 3 mil predsone and doing great back at the gym 4 days a week any others out their that had the same !!! Mj
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      It's unlikely that many people will see your comment unless they are already following this thread - do post it as a new topic!

      Good to hear how you are getting on - how long is it since you stopped the Actemra?

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    This has been a lively topic of discussion on the healthunlocked site the last couple of days.  I agree, if you have deathly fatigue you need to be checked.  I'm at 2 and although lazy I don't usually have the deathly fatigue which used to assail me back in early days physiological levels of pred.

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      Thank you, Anhaga. My reply to Eileen will cover my own thoughts. Need to go as I have a busy day.
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      Hope your day went well.  Regarding salt, you may actually need more salt if you have always had a very low salt diet as I have.  Turns out I may have become quite severely salt deficient.  Salt is, I think, one of the elements used for good thyroid function.  It is also an essential electrolyte, and pred does upset our electrolyte balance, although I'm not sure how.  Since starting to take in more salt a number of my symptoms have vanished.  First to go, a while ago when I increased salt intake a tiny bit, was fluttery heart rhythm.  Recently  it was suggested to me that morning headaches which persisted through the day despite taking painkillers could be due to low salt.  I was advised to taste a little salt and if it tasted good I needed more.  I did this, and found it tasted delicious!  No morning headache the next morning.  And it's now been a couple of months and I have not had a morning headache.  I also found that my lower legs which would get very painful when at rest, enough that they'd wake me up at night although resolve by morning, this pain went away, and both the leg pain and the morning headaches had been increasing in frequency and severity over the past few years.  i realized that because I was eating so few prepared foods now and we always cook low salt I really had become deficient.  The way I decide if I need more salt on a given evening is to taste a few grains.  Usually now they taste disgusting, so I know I'm okay, but with the hot weather I've found a few times the salt tastes really nice, so have more, until it suddenly becomes unappealing again.  I wish this technique worked with salty foods but it doesn't wink.  Just the plain table salt.  I have also kept an eye on my blood pressure which had a few months ago become a bit high, nearly into the red range although my doctor seemed to think it okay.  Of course she's only been my doctor since PMR and doesn't know my long history of low blood pressure.  In any event my blood pressure has now returned to what has always been normal for me!

      So your salt craving could be as simple as needing more salt.  Unlike sugar, which has no such built-in restriction, you won't eat too much salt taking it the way I was advised to.  When you've had enough it quite suddenly becomes unpleasant.

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      Thank you, Anhaga. Grandchildren staying so days are busy but I am managing to nod off at odd times. I wonder if you may be right about the salt as I don't add it to food and don't put on the table. I will follow your advice and see if it works. My chances of getting near my iPad at present to reply is variable as it's pretty full on and I have other family members who require assistance due to ill health. The problem with PMR is, as many on this forum know,  we often look deceptively well and people assume accordingly. 

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    Hi Silver49,

    I got down to 2 1/2 mgs of prednisone and my PMR was good.....but my fatigue was overwhelming and got to the point where I was a bit scared about how I was feeling.  I’ve asked my doctor for a referral to a specialist for an ACTH synacthen test but wait lists are very long and I’ve just passed my 4 month mark of waiting for an appt.

    in the meantime I had to do something about my health so I’ve experimented with how much I need to go up to have some quality of life. I’ve gone up in 1/2 mg increments.....and percentage wise that is quite a jump; for example, going from 2 1/2 to 3 mgs is a 20% increase......even tho it is just 1/2 mg.  

    I didnt want to increase but I’ve been telling myself that I should be able to reduce much easier than before because my PMR only needs a lower dose.....it’s just an adrenal issue reducing again. Also serious adrenal insufficiency is not something we should mess around with.  I always wear my medic alert tag and have sent emails to family members they can refer to.

    The Healthunlocked forum has about a dozen of us either diagnosed with adrenal insufficiency or waiting to get tested. The issue is that even with test results the doctors aren’t providing much advice about how to wake up the adrenals. 

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      I appreciate your update on the waiting times and how you have dealt with the fatigue. I suspect that I am probably going to increase a little. I'll see how I am at the end of this week when an added stress  will have passed. I hope you don't have to wait too much longer for the test. I think you are possibly not in the UK going by the time on your post. Best wishes for a successful dosage to cope with the fatigue. 

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