Broken wrist, how long does the pain last after removal of the cast?

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 I had a bad colles radius fracture 7 weeks ago requring a 'bier block' manoevre (agony) and have been out of plaster now for 9 days. I am doing excercises which I have found on the internet as there is a 5 week wait for physiotherapy. My main worry is the pain. Can anyone tell me how long I can expect the pain to go on? It feels relentless especially at night when I wake up wiith it burning terribly in my wrist. During the day it is there but not so bad, especially if I am walking. The other worry is that although I feel I am getting more movement with the excersises I am a long way from being able to form a fist. When I attempt a fist my fingers feel tight and sore. My hand is weak and I am unable to cut food yet as it is too painful. I don't find pain killers help much, and they make me feel groggy so I only take them at night and as soon as they wear off I'm awake with agonising pain. I also have bad aching in the end of my thumb. I'd be interested to hear exeperiences of anyone who has come out of this, if you can remember how long it was before the pain and discomfort went and normal life can be resumed! I am a 66 year old woman. It's very frustrating to still not be able to do normal tasks like opening a jar or do some gardening.. 

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    Hi all not sure if you have seen this site. It gives pictures of Ulna and Radius bones when doing the pronation and supination, which is turning of the wrist  around. I had nt realised the bons have to cross over each. Website is https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pronation/supination&rlz=1C9BKJA_enGB593GB593&hl=en-GB&prmd=ivsn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj8rbq1ta3XAhUJ0hoKHb9tBsEQ_AUIEigB&biw=1024&bih=653

    Make sure you are on images and the click one of the photos, then swipe left. Interesting views of inside the wrist.

    Maureen 

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      Yep...very complicated bit of kit...the body. As we’re getting technical I can do flexion, extension, radial and ulnar deviation, pronation and supination...pretty much 99% there although not with the same ease and comfort of my good hand. 

      I'm lost for words re Ali’s and Elaine’s progress...the infrequency of physio and the almost complete lack of progress in movement. I saw a noticeable difference each week of the above movements...as I suspect you did too. They have to progress but I guess at a much slower rate which will only cause despondency...we're with you folks!🙂

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      Yes I really feel for Ali and Elaine, they have really gone theough it. All movement not without a bit of weird feeling not exactly pain, more stiffness really. Radial and Ulna deviation sort of waving movement, yes I can do this. Pronation Supination movement wrist action for turning the knob of a door, yes that is ok. Flexion - not so good 50% - hand straight, but bending down fron wrist - Extension - hand straight then bending it up from wrist

      80%. I should do more excersises to get this one sorted. Still gets sore side of the wrist below the thumb, to the side of the scar. I moisturise the scar a few times a day massaging it in. 

      Maureen

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      Thank you for your caring thoughts. Tomorrow it will be a year since my break..

      I have done everything that I was told to do, sometimes overdoing it tbh.

      However, I am easing back a little on physio as my thumb is way to painful now. I have learned to adapt using my hand as it is. I can hold a hairbrush to do front & side of my hair whilst drying it...my daughter finishes the back lol. I can open most door handles tho some cause discomfort for a little while. I can live with that.

      What I find getting worse is my thumb, it is too painful at times to open a simple packet of biscuits or crisps....maybe in my favour tho!!

      I have yet to be accessed for further manipulation on my wrist because of the CRPS but I am more than prepared to go ahead. They did my fingers last op & I gained a few cms but cnt make a full fist.

      I can live with that also. My aim is to get movement in my wrist of some degree so I'l take what's on offer. As for considering removing a bone below my thumb I'm not too sure yet but I have spoke to ppl who have had a similar procedure & it has helped.

      That's a last resort if I am giving the choice. Atm my hand is calm....little pain unless I do physio or overuse it so I count my blessings.

      Good luck Ali on your recovery....I sure know what you are going through....Il keep updating my progress for all other sufferers...good luck to you all also..

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      Apologies for the late update - I was hoping to have something to say! Many thanks for the good wishes. I hope you are all continuing your good recoveries. Elaine, you too!

      I am improving, but it is taking a very long time. I still can't make a fist or touch my last two fingers with my thumb. There is precious little sign of my hand being able to move upwards from the wrist. I've now got tubing for cutlery to help me use knives at dinner time. I have gadgets to help open cans and jars. I'm getting a lot of pain in my shoulder and arm. I still don't know if that's the CRPS spread or if I've damaged my shoulder - I asked my doctor twice about this and he didn't answer which was a bit disconcerting. I had a different doctor last week, but he was so unpleasant I lost the will to stay there a second longer - I thought it was personal at the time, but I've since found out it was not!

      All of the above sounds quite negative, but, I am improving. It's just millimetre by millimetre. I can open doors with my right hand, and even take my rings off my left hand, showing that strength is returning. My hand gets nearer to making a fist, and with the help of therapeutic putty and the occupational therapist, sometimes it looks like I'm getting quite near - sadly though, never unaided! Some days I can type with my hand quite normally. I've been having occupational therapy and physiotherapy almost daily. And certainly my occupational therapist who I've seen more than anyone over the past 6 weeks is convinced of my improvement. So I remain hopeful that I can kick CRPS into remission and get most of my hand movement back. 

      I managed to drive the car once, but wasn't able to use my right hand to get the car into reverse or use the handbrake or switch the key. (Having a right hand drive car at this point would have been so much easier). This would have made driving a little tricky, but not impossible. However, the day after that, I was given new medication (Amitriptyline) against the nerve pain which is designed to help at night. In Germany this means I'm not allowed to drive - in the UK I know there are some people who take nearly 4x more than me who can still drive, but this is the law here. I'm hoping to come off those in the New Year.

      So I am actually quite hopeful, but this is definitely a long game. I don't know how long I'm going to be without physio etc over the Christmas period, and I'm going to have to make sure I don't go backwards in that time. But I don't think I will.

      Hoping everybody's recoveries are continuing at a normal rate...

       

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      Hi Ali, great to hear how you are getting along. I feel when I read your updates I'm reading my own. It is so uncannily similar.

      I still cannot make a full fist without using my other hand tbh & at times this hurts at my middle finger joints. As for movement upwards or backwards with my wrist, I still cannot.

      My O/T also gave me tubing & a latex type material to be able to grip items such as cutlery & hairbrush. However I dnt use it that often now.

      You mention pain in your shoulder & arm, I too had that which turned into FS. Im sure mine was brought on by my physio because he tried turning my arm over & I winced in pain as if something had pulled.

      My surgeon said it could be CRPS but Im sure it was FS as I had it 2 yrs ago.

      My physio & O/T also saw improvements all being slight, but i took that as a good sign but knew it could be a very long journey....a yr in fact!

      The same thing happens to me when I drive...only 6 times in the yr since my break. I can do all ok but need both hands to turn the ignition key. How uncanny we both struggle with that!!

      I was told I could have amitriptyline which in theory is a mild antidepressant but used for pain relief. However, I am on 10mg of citalapram...same reason tbh.

      I am due to see my surgeon on 19th Dec who will decide when I have my wrist manipulated under local as with my fingers previous. They could not do both because of CRPS so decided to do it separate.

      My wrist looks the size of a childs with the muscle loss but I do my exercises with little gain.

      My 4th op if it goes ahead will be removal of a bone in my thumb which is excruciatingly painful where I have to now wear a splint to immobilise it.

      My thoughts are with you Ali & to all going through this painful journey.

      Its a long road ahead still but I have to keep hopeful.....

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      Hello Ali,

      Just a quick update on my slow progress!!

      ?Little has changed tbh, I saw my surgeon Dec 19th who has informed me that I will have MUA under local to try & move my wrist. As the break was initially so severe they warned me it could still be susceptible to breaking during MUA but will monitor it.

      ?If its too risky they will perform surgery yet again to release scar tissue etc. I'm praying it will be near to successful to be able to move on at last.

      Thumb has been immobilised because of severe pain.....so frustrating!!

      ?My thoughts are with you as we both go through this unbearable journey, though I sincerely hope you are more recovered since the last discussion.

      ?I hope you had a great Xmas & more importantly a healthier & painfree NY to come.

      ?Any successful treatment etc that you have had to aid recovery I would be happy to know about to keep my pecker up.

      All the very best to you............

       

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      Oh Elaine! It's horrible that everything is taking so long for you. I hope they do manage successful manipulation for you, and it doesn't break...

      My progress is still continuing, but very, very slowly. All the doctors I've seen seem convinced that my shoulder pains are from frozen shoulder rather than CRPS. That's obviously better, but the pain is the same kind of electrical-current pain, so I'm not sure. I had another fall on Christmas Day (my cat!) and hurt my left hand, not badly, but it still feels numb and achey a week later. I'm hoping that is just a protest.

      I got referred to a Pain Management centre just before Christmas, and I'm hoping that this will prove to be a break through - they decided my case was an emergency and I got seen that afternoon. The doctor gave me pain relief acupuncture (all the doctors in the clinic are qualified in this), and also a cream called 'Ambroxol' which is a local anaesthetic, and seems to be quite a new thing. This has meant that I have come off Amitriptyline which feels good!

      I still can't make a fist, and by myself can only touch my middle finger with my thumb, but in OH with the help of flossing, I managed to touch my middle finger this morning. Flossing remains one of the best treatments I've had.

      This Friday I am due to have ESWT (Extra Corporeal Shock Wave Therapy) which is yet something else I had never heard of, but seems to help the battle against CRPS. I hope it does. I'm still hoping for a pain-free future!

      So I also hope that your MUA does help to restore movement and that you also get a pain free New Year! Fingers crossed!

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      (I meant to say I managed to touch my little finger during flossing - my brain seems badly affected by all of this).

      Let me know how your journey continues.

      xx

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    Hi, I was happy to see this thread. I. Broke my wrist on August 25 2017. I have been very Lucky. I had surgery within 10 days and was in a splint for a week and then have been doing exercises I found on the net. I have full range of movement, can make a fist and just need to build up strength. However I have a stinging sensation at the bend of my wrist. Sometimes it is worse than others. Can anyone tell me when this will go away? The scar is still red and raised and I wonder if I am just being too impatient. I am 66 and know it will take time. My surgeon says 8-12 onths for full recovery. 
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      Hello Melinda I had my break 14th August cast put on then and operarion a week after. I found on one of these message boards a recommendation for the scar, called Kelo-Cote it changed the look of my scar virtually vernight. It s a gel, I got it from a well known internet delivery site. You only need a amall amount well worth the money. Yes I had the pane in that wrist area, it has gone off now though. I am hapoy with the my level of movement I have now, need to improve my hand movement pointing upwards and downwards. Up about 80% down only 40% but persevering with exercises.

      Maureen 

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      Oh forgot to mention I am 68. My doctor sent me for a bone density test, as I fell in my garden, I have now knw I have Osteoporoses in one hip and the lesser Osteoparenia  in my right. Had I not fallen I would not have this informaion, so I am being a lot more careful and have now on prescription calcium/d vitamin also another medicarion to improve my bone density. This is a very good message board and has helped lots.

      Maureen

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      Thank you for the information I will definitely try that gel .
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    I am having the me problem. I'm 8 weeks post fracture of radius and ulnar. Doc said it could take 2 years heal . Other docs said I need surgery. I shall bbe formed forever w shorter arm and piano leg wrist.

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      Where are you Regmac.....you sound like you’re in the middle of a jungle with no professional help and just a first aid kit. You have fractured both the radius and ulna and yet you've had no surgery.....why....did you have it manipulated under local anaesthetic....is it in plaster....if it is very deformed, I can only assume you haven’t had it manipulated into it’s correct position. Why have you waited 8 weeks? Have you told the doctors you are not happy with it? I fractured wrist takes 6 months to heal if treated properly, I should know, I have just passed 6 months post fracture and I’m fine. Go back to your doctor and ask questions, if you’re in a country with poor health care, try to get to a big city with a good hospital....if you don’t, I can promise you, you will have problems, for a very long time....just ask Ali or Elaine on this forum....

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