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Can an attack be triggered by a couple of slices of pizza and a glass of wine?

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paul39293
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ive been on this diet for a couple of weeks, breakfast a yogurt (low fat/low sugar), lunch and dinner all low fat, low sugar, low(ish) carb, high veg, well balanced meals produced by a nutritionist and calorie controlled. Been workign out and losing weight. Then Friday night I treat myself to a pizza and a glass of red wine and boom - 24 hours later... agony!  Now, before the diet I would be regularly eating all the wrong things in large proportions, so I am wondering why after starting a healthy diet for 2 weeks (and really stiking to it) then having just one day off, does it trigger an attack like this. Am I missreading the situation - was it not triggered by the pizza / wine combo? Was it something else? Or was it the sudden change from uber healthy to super bad that casued it? 

Any thoughts welcome, thanks

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  • james86315
    james86315 paul39293

    Posted

    Hi Paul.

    As I understand it. Uric Acid is sort of locked up in our bodies normally. When you go on to a restricted diet.

    You cut off the supply of Purines, the body is then able to release it's store of Uric Acid into the blood but in umcontrolled amounts..

    This will of course provoke an attack, this theory could be a load of twaddle. My other  thoughts are, alcohol is dehydrating, if only one glass caused an attack that would be hard luck.

    My first attack was caused by playing tennis in the hot sun, I had insufficient water with me.

    I became dehydrated, later in the day I had a couple of glasses of red wine. Next morning my big toe was red.

    Last year I hollidayed in France the hotel supplied free red wine in large quantities, foolishly I indulged.

    What do you know, a few days later my right foot was swollen, and, one toe is still a little swollen now.

    This was since August 2014, as you can see it can take a long time to get your blood back in balance.

    Have now started drinking a drop of Apple Cider Vinegar (organic)   in every glass of water.

    It may be working, if it does I'll post again.

    James  

    • paul39293
      paul39293 james86315

      Posted

      Many thanks for the feedback - I hope the apple cider vinegar works!
  • joey2
    joey2 paul39293

    Posted

    I found out, I can not drink any alcohol any more. Even a quarter of a glass will bring on an attack with a venegence! Next day can't move and even the steroids don't help at that point. Takes a couple days to wear off and then finally things are back to square one. DON'T DRINK any kind of booze.
    • paul39293
      paul39293 joey2

      Posted

      Thanks Joey, so possibly this is my case - now I am just too worried to actually drink again in case it triggers an attack! But I know myself and I love wine too much and I am weak! So one day, once I feel well hydrated and have behaved for a while, I guess I will give it a go and find out!
  • keith48631
    keith48631 paul39293

    Posted

    I am in my ninth year of alchol free living, still I get attacks the latest being bursitis a soft watery swelling on my left elbow.the size of a small chicken egg. Three days later it developed into a large swelling gout had arrived, the swelling has gone down but I am left with a hard small swelling on my elbow. I give up on what to eat and what not to eat these attacks knock me for six the pain is excruciating the worse being in soft tissue and achilles tendon, so in my case the culprit is not alcohol as in my youth I was promptely told by my wife was the cause, which it has prove to be the wrong analysis. i have started taking tart cherry juice so wait and see.
    • paul39293
      paul39293 keith48631

      Posted

      Thanks Keith - I hope the cherry juice works - I knwo I would love that - must try to find some - not so easy in Vietnam.
  • timothy12884
    timothy12884 paul39293

    Posted

    The red sauce on pizza did it to me. I now have the white pizzas with no meat. I don't think the wine did it ( 2 glasses of less ). Remember there is yeast in the dough. Keep up the good work with your diet and you will come out ahead of the gout. You probably got the attack because of all the bad things eaten before the diet started. The kidneys take out the purins at a slow rate. Do all the research to become more alkaline than acidic. And keep the HFCS and sugars to a minimum.

    For more amo against the gout try, celery, tart cherrys or juice being careful of HFCS in juices and foods, apple cider vinegar, alkaline water, alfalfa tabs, Phresh Greens ( just a tsp in a glass of water ). Make alkaline water by cutting a lemon into 1/8's and without squeezing the lemons put into 64oz of water and settin out overnight. Hang in there you can do it, I finally did. Drink lots of water to help flush out the kidneys and keep them healthy. I start each day with a glass of water and before each meal. Wishing you all the best. See a doctor if you haven't already.

    • paul39293
      paul39293 timothy12884

      Posted

      Thanks Timothy. The odd thing is that I drink 1.5 - 2 L of water a day, have been for a long time. Also I am reading online that tomatoes are good for gout and as far as I am aware pizza sauce is merely concentrated tomato. Of course everyone is different however I would have thought the yeast in the bread or the animal protein in the cheese would have been more likely suspects. Of course everyone is different which makes this so difficult to understand.

      I think what we need is a gout  food register - where we have a list of foods and people can indicate which ones are triggers for them and which ones they believe help reduce attacks. Then it would be really easy to search the list for any type of food and see if it is OK or not.

      Thanks for the advice on things to try, will give those a shot.

    • Please_Cancel
      Please_Cancel paul39293

      Posted

      I've become very sceptical about overuse of bottled water due in some cases to it's high sodium content.
    • paul39293
      paul39293 timothy12884

      Posted

      So, been thinking about this becoming less acidic and got some pee test strips that show acidity levels - then I actually thought about it - if the kidneys remove uric acid then it will be present in pee - so in a way it seems that a high level of acidity is a good thing bcs lots of acid is being removed. Or is it that low acidity is a good thing bcs there is less to remove in the first place - confusing!
    • timothy12884
      timothy12884 paul39293

      Posted

      Look up on Google Gout diet made easy--Purine Chart--Food to avoid.

      It's an interesting read. But about a trigger to start gout, I think that anything could do it. Heres why your kidneys can only get rid of the purins at the rate they work. Everyone is different there for different rates and times. When our bodys get over the limit of which our kidneys remove the purines no matter what food the excess goes into the blood and forms crystals. They are what causes the pain and swelling. So when your body has gone over the limit of what your kidneys can handle

      the crystals will grow. We need to change our eating lifestyle, I'm not always sticking to it. But I do most of the time now. I'd say 100% until the gout goes away then maybe 95% and see what happens. I get my sugar (my addiction) from fruits now especially after 6PM. Good eating is the wise choice.

    • timothy12884
      timothy12884 paul39293

      Posted

      The kidneys are removing it all the time. But when they are over worked they can only do 24 hrs a day, so lets not make them work overtime since there are only 24 hrs. The overtime hours go to crystals. When lots of acid is being removed the kidneys are strained, get the acid down it may save your kikneys in the long run. Plus the kidneys are only going to remove what they can, the rest turns to gout.
  • fsrvival
    fsrvival paul39293

    Posted

    Or, you can make your own red sauce using cherries.   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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