Can I opted out of General Anaesthetic?

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Can I opted out of General Anaesthetic?

I was wondering if there was anyway that I could carry a card or bracelet or something telling NHS staff in case of an emergency I did not wish to submit to a general anaesthetic?

Your thoughts please

Cheers

Mike

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    When I had my first prostate laser surgery in 2006 the Gas Man did not like my ECG reading and had an echo cardiogram done as 'He did not want me dying on him during elective surgery'

    The echo cardiogram satisfied him and he proceeded with the operation.

    I later asked him if everything had gone all right. He said that my heart rate had gone rather low and he had given me something to speed it up.

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    @Micheal and Jaguar this did actually happen it was reported in the Merseyside news at the time and hit prime time news needless to say after that incident he was not only struck off but ended up in court sadly they did not punish him enough in my eyes.
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    PS@mike I am sorry for your loss but come on mike face facts things can and do go wrong their is no surgeon going to operate on you in any emergency situation with out an anesthetic stop looking on the web for things like you are you still have 2 wonderful kids who also have lost some one supposed you had a accident on the way to work and suppose because of your instructions they could not operate there would be 2 more children having to face death again hell this could really screw them up just stop and think before you act.
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    Oh he did get struck off?...........i tried to find out what happened but the GMC website was "unhelpful".

    I had no loss Pete, but just total terror at a "GA".

    I have no kids either.........that i know of

    Mike

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    Thanks, Peter a. He was the joke! In every sector of society there are people like that 'doctor'. And whatever the profession there will be more than one. Many doctors and consultants have been struck off, quite rightly, because their job means our lives are in their hands. I just wish the same applied to all those investment bankers. here and in the US.

    But all of us should realise that the job of a surgeon is rather special; and every surgeon needs a good anaesthetist to ensure the patient survives all the hard work put in by that surgeon. Medicine today is so far advanced to what we had only 50 years ago that a person from the 19th century might imagine all we have is sci-fi if they saw it. Just imagine what it must have been like to have to undergo surgery without any anaesthetic.

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    sorry Micheal I misread what you put it seemed as though you were pouring out your heart over a loss that could have been prevented not just quoting something that had happened to another and by relating to such you developed a fear of GA.

    Last year the BBC ran a series of programmers called Pain Pus and Poison it showed the use and refinement of different drugs over the 19th and 20th century to provide analgesia, antibiotics and how such plants classed as poisons in set quantities could actually help daily life and thus prolong it digitalis is one of many to name but one.

    On the topic of analgesia in operations it was revealed in this programme no matter how severe pain was the surgeons actually thought it was good for the patient, thankfully it was the resistance of one of the people who developed Nitrous Oxide did we start to get some pain control during surgery still gone are the days when the local GP with his bottle of chloroform did simple surgery such as tonsillectomy on the kitchen table. Now we use a range of modern anesthesia derived from drugs such as opium and the poison curare (if it was not for that donkey and the fire side belows it may still have not been used to this day) that we have anesthetists with a whole arsenal of drugs so that no two persons anesthesia is the same so you have no fear of the GA these days the anesthetist and surgeon work as a team but it is the anesthetist who always rules it is them and them alone who can tell the surgeon to go ahead or stop.

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    @michael39371 thanks for the link that was a much earlier one so the second one he did at Liverpool around 2009 was the one that got him struck off I myself count my blessings as the night my aneurysm ruptured he was on suspension and they had to fly me to the Royal Preston for emergency surgery I will point out that this hospital still held a living will and they had started going ahead with surgery while they were discussing this with my next of kin I honestly think it a waste of time and expense such surgery costs should be allocated to the younger and fitter as a year after surgery I developed a further one at the bottom of the stent graft to the femoral artery.
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    Hi Mike I hav several surgical procedures in my lifetime 15 major ops by the time I hit 45 and still each time I go down to the theater I dread going under but life go on and I have another major surgery on the horizon there will come a day when I say ENOUGH and take the consequences of my own actions.

    Pete

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    Wot they let him off the 1st time !!!!!!!!!

    Mike

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    @micheal yup disgraceful as it may seem all he got was a severe fine a demotion in ranks and was unable to work on his own.
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    Just been watching 24 hours @ A&E on C4..........Great you go in ill, then get stripped & filmed !!!!

    Oh how very nice!.........Scumbags!

    Mike

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    Sorry to sound legalistic, but why are these people somehow exempt from the Human Rights Act?

    Breach of Articles 2 (inhuman or degrading treatment) and 8 (respect for privacy), perchance??

    Whilst it may be understandable to disrobe the individual patient when trying to take care of them, but to film it - why is that alright?? Certainly a Breach of Article 8. You haven't even got their consent to film it - a prima facie cases for damages, I would have thought.

    I fail to see why the NHS should somehow be exempt from treating individuals with respect and decency. They could at least try.

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    @std any filming in a NHS setting has to obtain the consent of the patient before releasing the film across any public network otherwise under CQC rules it is classed as a form of abuse in the case where the patient does not make it they have to get the consent of the next of kin this is done under the heading of educational and informative.

    You might recollect a series on UK TV once called your life in their hands this covered the patient from start to finish.

    @mike think that was bad try "I should have died" on REALLY (17 on Freeview) that is more descriptive than some of the Australian films I have seen and there consent is not sought or needed.

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    @Mike remember our scumbag consultant anesthesiologist from Liverpool well he is back to work again on the Costa Del Sol doing Plastic Surgery for the rich and famous seems as though the rules are different over there plus the fact he may say do ten years then sneak back into this country and open his own clinic.

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